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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:12 PM
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Indictments put focus on neoconservatives
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/10/29/indictments_put_focus_on_neoconservatives/

Bryan Bender
Boston Globe 10/29/05

"WASHINGTON -- The indictment and resignation of I. Lewis ''Scooter" Libby yesterday deprives the White House of one of its most influential national security thinkers, a powerful advocate for some of the Bush administration's most far-reaching foreign policy decisions since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

His pending legal battle, however, could also bring new scrutiny to the actions of the close-knit group of officials, many of them his old friends and colleagues from previous Republican administrations, who had long agitated for overthrowing Saddam Hussein and who are accused of exaggerating the threat from Iraq to achieve their goal, according to current and former government officials and specialists.

As the point man in the seat of power for the so-called neoconservatives, Libby was perfectly suited to carry their message: In 1992, as a senior Pentagon official, he coauthored a secret military blueprint asserting that the United States must ''act independently when collective action cannot be orchestrated" to protect its interests by force. The draft document was never approved, but had a key word -- ''preempt" -- that became synonymous with a more aggressive, unilateral US foreign policy.

A decade later, as chief of staff and Vice President Dick Cheney's national security adviser, Libby persuaded President Bush and Cheney, his boss, to adopt a strategy of preemptive war in Iraq, arguing inside the White House on behalf of like-minded allies such as former deputy secretary of defense Paul D. Wolfowitz, former undersecretary of defense Douglas J. Feith, and former undersecretary of state John Bolton. Feith has left government service, Wolfowitz is now head of the World Bank, and Bolton is the US ambassador to the United Nations.



....

Throughout the 1990s Libby -- along with Wolfowitz, Feith, Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and a slew of other leading defense and foreign policy officials -- clamored to finish the job they failed to complete in the 1991 Persian Gulf War: removing Saddam Hussein as the first step to installing Western-style democracy throughout the Middle East.

In the late 1990s, Libby was among those associated with the Project for a New American Century, a think tank that publicly urged President Clinton to use military force to remove Hussein from power."

...

-snip -

The word's getting out folks! - here's an article that has all the big names in the neocon power group, and mentions the PNAC, conecting the dots as it were.

Cracks in the fortress are showing light into the evil empire for everyone to see.


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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:17 PM
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1. Names them all
...the architects of evil.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:17 PM
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2. good to see this in print.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:23 PM
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3. Oh no, no, NO!
I have a real problem with the wording in this. read carefully, and see if you agree: "Libby persuaded President Bush and Cheney"??????
The key word here is 'persuaded'. He persuaded Shithead and the Dick to go to war? I bloody think not! They were already predisposed to wage unprovoked war, even without this guy's intervention. It is this kind of phraseology that gives * and Cheney a way out of the whole thing. I can just see this coming: " President Bush and Vice President Cheney were duped by an unscrupulous and dishonest former staffer, and through that staffer, they were lead to believe that the invasion of Iraq was a necessity in order to safeguard the security of the US. It was an honest mistake, and one made in the best interests of the citizens of the US. Nobody had to persuade those assholes of anything, they already had it in mind before they took office.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:29 PM
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5. I saw that phrase in the article, too
'Libby persuaded Cheney'

and my first reaction was the same as yours, NO No thats Backwards, but then I thought, 'How do I know that?'

and besides, theres a lot of other stuff that leaps out in this article in a bigger way, when your reading it, that Libby and others were part of a very powerful group that had a specific agenda - Pre-emptive war, and removing Hussein from power.

in balance, it gets important information out there

Neocons = hellbent on war BEFORE 9/11
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:42 PM
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7. No argument with what you said, just my response to what I ...
consider an extremely irresponsible wording on the part of the`writer. After all, no one really knows whether he did or did not do as the article`suggests. You are correct, there is much more, and better info. in there.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 04:39 PM
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11. I'm Sure Libby Was an Enabler
If he was the top dog, though, I'd really be upset and worried for the country.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:47 PM
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15. Bush**Cheney Are, and I AM Upset and Worried for the Country
Libby didn't persuade Cheney or Bush** of anything. He was just doing what Cheney told him to.

The plans for the Iraq invasion had already left *'s desk long before.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 04:52 PM
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12. I can see your point here but,
wouldn't the counter argument be that the president and vice-president of the US should not be so susceptible to being duped? If they are, is this the guys we really want running the show?
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 05:03 PM
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13. I noted that, too; good catch
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 05:57 PM
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14. From what I read
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 05:58 PM by bloom
The draft document mentioned in the OP - was the article that was later toned down that led to the PNAC manifesto.

So it could very well be Libby was a big influencer - even of Cheney.
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KTM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:40 AM
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21. What did you think "Cheney's Cheney" meant ?
I suspect most see that as "Cheney is Bush's right-hand man, and Libby is Cheney's right-hand man."

I always read it as "Cheney is to Libby as Bush is to Cheney" in the sense that Cheney is Bush's puppet master, the guy making the behind the scenes calls... I think Libby, to some extent, did that for Cheney as he brought him up through the ranks.

Libby is no more Cheney's assistant than Cheney is "Vice" President.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:24 PM
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4. Very nice - and now for a political commercial
Sorry if it bugs folks for me to say this but I remember when Wes Clark kept saying this and he was ridiculed. Oh, I know we at DU all said it, but as a political candidate, he was very courageous, I think.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:33 PM
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6. Republicans are "Lost in the Fog" n/t
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:49 PM
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8. Wolfowitz will slither away. eom
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:58 PM
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9. Mentions Bolton too -- heh heh
its just good to see all the neocon reptiles exposed for public scrutiny
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 03:53 PM
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10. Good point.
Wolfowitz and Libby go way back.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:10 PM
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16. Top Neocon
To me, looks like Cheney comes off as top neocon - as he probably is, along with the insane Rummy as a close nr. 2. As long as these names, all of them, stay in front of the public for awhile, there is a good chance of getting to the real reasons for invading Iraq.
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callady Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 11:22 PM
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19. Rumsfeld is insane
not just figuratively. A total nut job who would pull the rigger.



http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/nuclear-warplans-101
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:18 AM
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23. Welcome.
Welcome to DU, badgervan.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:26 PM
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17. Is Fitz smarter than even we give him credit for...
I have read everyone's arguments, statement and ideas and it struck me that Rove's name was not mentioned. Did Fitz throw a dart at the heart of the truly evil group that is running our country? Rove may be the one that got * elected...but I am not sure he is the one that we should be focused on. Everyone wanted Rove to be indicted, including me, but did Fitz see something even far worse?

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callady Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:33 PM
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18. To understand Scooters role know his alliance w/Wolfowitz & Perle
After graduating from Phillips Academy, an exclusive boarding school in Andover, MA, Libby graduated from Yale University in 1972, where one of his professors was Paul Wolfowitz, and received his Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree Columbia University Law School in 1975. He also wrote The Apprentice, a novel published in 1996.

Libby was a founding member of the Project for the New American Century. He joined Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol, Robert Kagan, and others in writing its 2000 report entitled, "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century."

Libby co-authored the draft of the "Defense Planning Guidance" with Wolfowitz for then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney in 1992.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Libby

To under stand Scooters role and significance it is vital to understand his alliance and allegiance to Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle:
Wolfowitz abandoned the Yale tenure track and threw himself into the practice of national security, moving back and forth between Defense and State. His earliest jobs were in the wonkish realm of policy analysis — gazing at the horizon. He had a knack for luring bright, opinionated thinkers, some of whom rank high in the current administration. Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, was captivated by Wolfowitz's political science course at Yale and worked for him at the in-house think tanks in both the State and Defense Departments. Condoleezza Rice's deputy, Stephen J. Hadley, who is chairman of an influential committee of cabinet deputies that meets several times a week on national-security issues, worked for Wolfowitz in the Cheney Defense Department and was a fellow Vulcan in the campaign.

http://www.why-war.com/news/2002/09/22/thesunsh.html

Initial Draft (Feb. 18, 1992)

1) Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to general global power.

2) The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. In non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.

Latest Draft (April 16, 1992)

6) In the Middle East and Persian Gulf, we seek to foster regional stability, deter aggression against our friends and interests in the region, protect U.S. nationals and property, and safeguard our access to international air and seaways and to the region's oil. The United States is committed to the security of Israel and to maintaining the qualitative edge that is critical to Israel's security. Israel's confidence in its security and U.S.-Israel strategic cooperation contribute to the stability of the entire region, as demonstrated once again during the Persian Gulf War. At the same time, our assistance to our Arab friends to defend themselves against aggression also strengthens security throughout the region, including for Israel. (pg. 14)

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/Wolfowit...

Scooter and Paul Wolfowitz are the devious criminal minds behind the Bush gangster doctrine currently responsible for killing around 100,000 Iraqis. Scooter and Wolfowitz devised the Defense Policy Guidance document for Dick Cheney back in 1992. It is now more or less the Bush playbook for “pre-emptive force to prevent countries from developing weapons of mass destruction,” in other words invading Muslim countries that do not have weapons of mass destruction. It was also used as a blueprint when a clique of neocons cobbled together the criminal organization Project for a New American Century. Scooter’s lies were instrumental in the invasion of Iraq—for instance, the fairy tale one of Saddam’s intelligence agents met with supposed nine eleven “ring leader” Mohamed Atta. Scooter was so insistent this lie be included in Colin Powell’s dog and pony show at the United Nations he called him late at night in the eleventh hour and harangued him.

Scooter is a shameless criminal operator. It is said he rang the phones off the wall at the Pentagon after the Iraq invasion to make sure Halliburton received a contract to repair oil wells destroyed during the American invasion he formulated with Wolfowitz. As if to demonstrate crime is well-rewarded in Bushzarro world, Wolfowitz was appointed to run the World Bank, the largest conductor of neoliberal loan sharking on the planet.

As if to further demonstrate his criminal propensity, Scooter once told an aide he planned to stay on as Cheney’s top adviser until “I get indicted or something.” In other words, he understands full well he is a criminal and he thinks his crimes are cute and ingenious. “You never get in trouble for something you don’t say,” Libby also quipped, using an old Sam Rayburn maxim.

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=89
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 01:24 AM
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20. FINALLY!
I've been jumping up and down about PNAC for two years (if you're not already familiar with it, check out the link in my sig line.) I sent the timeline to EVERYONE - Congress, cable news, national and international new sources, you name it. It's about damn time they're starting to cover it! Exposing the PNAC has been my passion for a long time and I need a rest......
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:30 AM
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22. Nice to finally see this in the corporate media...
but no mention of Jebbie? Pity.
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