Roadside Bombs Kills Sailor, 2 Marines (2000 Have Died)

[leftchick]

Just heard on CNN. I will find a link... :(


edit: link from maddezmom. These seems to be the same deaths CNN is talking about....


http://www.nbc17.com/news/5163888/detail.html?rss=tri&psp=news

CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. -- Two Marines and a sailor attached to Camp Lejeune-based units were killed last week in roadside bomb explosions in Iraq, the Defense Department said Monday.

A Wilkes County hospital corpsman assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment of the 2nd Marine Division died in an explosion during combat operations in Anbar province, the military said.

Petty Officer 3rd Class Chris Thompson, 25, was riding in the left rear seat of an armored vehicle when an improvised explosive device was set off, according to his parents, Larry and Geraldine Thompson.

Lance Cpl. Kenneth J. Butler, 19, of Rowan, died from an explosion near Amariyah. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment of the 2nd Marine Division.

[rodeodance]

1. 2000 dead US troops. cnn just reported

[saigon68]

98. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[gorbal]

105. 2,000 Too Many Have Died! Actions Wed. 10/26 to End the War

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/



"2,000 Too Many Have Died! Actions Wed. 10/26 to End the War

U.S. Death Toll in Iraq Tops 2,000

Join or organize an event in your community to honor the dead and call for the troops to come home

http://www.afsc.org/2,000/

We have just received word that the moment we have been dreading has arrived: 2,000 U.S. servicepeople have now died in Iraq. We grieve for these two thousand men and women, killed in the prime of their lives, for a war based on lies, and we grieve for the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have also died in the chaos and carnage the Bush Administration has brought to their country.

It's time to bring the troops home -- now. Not one more U.S. serviceperson should give his or her life to this senseless war. Not one more Iraqi should be killed. Not one more U.S. dollar should be spent sustaining this war and occupation.

All around the country, people will gather tomorrow, Wednesday, October 26, to honor the dead and call for the troops to come home. We urge you to join one of these events -- or organize one in your community if none has yet been planned.

UFPJ is supporting the call made by UFPJ member groups -- American Friends Service Committee, Gold Star Families for Peace and Military Families Speak Out -- for these actions.
Visit http://www.afsc.org/2,000/ for a list of events being planned, or to list your own event. More than 400 activities are currently planned."

[rodeodance]

2. we both posted at 5:03. sad news to post.

[leftchick]

7. have you found a link yet?

CNN has not repeated the breaking news yet and I can't find it.

[maddezmom]

9. found this one, but it has the number at 1,999

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/QUI535789.htm

[maddezmom]

17. Roadside Bombs Kill Sailor, 2 Marines

http://www.nbc17.com/news/5163888/detail.html?rss=tri&psp=news

:cry:

[leftchick]

19. I wonder if this is the CNN reported marines.

God this is so awful. :(

[rodeodance]

11. no. but still looking. I feel bad looking for a story such as this.

[Old Vet]

3. CNN reporting 2000th Dead American soldier, Damn

[Rhiannon12866]

91. Wolf Blitzer said that 2000 are now dead, so it must be official. Damn.

;(

[TheWebHead]

4. breaking on CNN: 2,000 U.S. miltary dead in Iraq

2 confirmed dead today brings the total to exactly 2,000. No link yet.

[wakeme2008]

5. ..

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[leetrisck]

6. Prayers

for all as the death and destruction go on.

[bluestateguy]

8. Despicable and disgusting

This war was a fraud from day one, and all of the Bushbots are getting what they deserve now.

[HereSince1628]

10. An American headline subtitled in pain,

May their families and loved ones find peace with their losses.

[calimary]

If/when the indictments come, and these bastards are forced to face

justice, then the victims and their families WILL find some solace. It'll mean that they won't have died completely in vain. We need justice for THEM. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.

[xchrom]

23. unfortunately -- many of those families will never thank

anybody for exposing the lies told by this administration that killed their sons and daughters.

too many are desperate to believe that their children are dying for their country.
the question of weapons of mass destruction is gathering dust in a basement somewhere.

[Proud2BaLiberalMom]

12. So very sad...

As a military wife and mother my heart is sadly broken. :cry:
My prayers and thoughts go out to all those who have lost their loved ones.
May those responsible for this unjust war (and everyone knows who I'm talking about),
be brought to justice very soon!

[Fridays Child]

13. They died on Friday, per CNN, but weren't reported until today.

Why would they have withheld the information?

[maddezmom]

15. wonder if this is the story

http://www.nbc17.com/news/5163888/detail.html?rss=tri&psp=news

[leftchick]

20. I will repost and use this link

Thank you mm. Cnn still has nothing on their site.

[leftchick]

21. They do that routinely...

they always say it is to inform the family first but I have my doubts.

[enlightenment]

35. Not so strange, if you think about it.

Presumably, the military doesn't send emails to the families -- though, thinking about it, they did send telegrams in WWII . . .

Anyway. I don't think they send email or just make a phone call, so sometimes it takes a few days to notify family. Just this weekend, a friend was visiting from out of town. One of her sons is in Ramadi (sp). She is very worried, of course. She didn't return home until today -- if something happened to her son, she wouldn't have known, officially.

I'm more than willing to believe just about any evil emanating from the MSM, but this is one situation that I don't think they fully control. Now, how they spin it afterward is completely in their control -- from what I can tell, listening with one ear, the morning spin on my local channel is "yeah, but look how many died during WWII."

Must go gag . . .

:banghead:

[Judi Lynn]

29. How many can they conceal without our knowledge. You have to wonder.

Four days later seems deliberately deceitful, considering we have often found out about other American Iraq deaths on the same day already.

I hope other people notice this, too.

[rppper]

14. heyyyy...lets all have that party that rush, hannity and coulter said.....

we would have... time to celebrate....yee hawww...!!!! 2000 dead...whoop-eeee!!!...lets all celebrate bush's culture of death and destruction!!!! hoorayyyy for the chicken hawks!!!!

well freepers...there you go...bookmark this and send it to your puppet-masters....you and your vile, traitorous leaders have blood on your hands..congratulations on snuffing out 2000 lives with your bullshit war.....a big FUCK YOU to all that support this war and the men/women who started it....there is a special place in hell for all of you......

<sarcasm off>

[calimary]

16. Time for them all to ENLIST.

Put their own asses where their megalomaniacal, greedy, warmongering mouths are.

[PurpleChez]

89. I can't add anything to that. It puts all of my anger and hatred

into a neat couple of sentences. These people are a blight. They deserve every misery coming to them, in spades. Real Book of Job type shit. Time to flush the turds.

[TheWebHead]

18. Seems as though Reuters and CNN have two different totals

They both reported two deaths, but CNN's was based on 1998, while Reuters was at 1997 ....

[xchrom]

22. there's not enough irony to even comment on the

dead soldiers at this point.

[leftchick]

24. AP reporting 1999

but they are usually behind. I actually would not be surprised if we passed 2000 on Sunday and they have not confirmed the dead yet. :cry:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051025/ts_nm/iraq_usa_deaths_dc_2

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two U.S. Marines were killed in Iraq when their vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb, the military said on Tuesday, pushing the total U.S. military death toll since the 2003 invasion to 1,999.

A military statement said the Marines died on Friday near the town of Amariya outside Falluja, a focus of the Sunni Arab insurgency against the U.S.-backed Baghdad government.

The statement said the deaths were in addition to two other military personnel, a Marine and a sailor, who were earlier reported killed in the incident.

U.S. military casualties are now just one short of the headline-grabbing 2,000 figure -- which is expected to spur fresh calls for U.S. President George W. Bush to outline an exit strategy for the conflict in Iraq.

[ScreamingMeemie]

25. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised by just about anything.

:( Hi leftchick.

[leftchick]

28. hi MrsGrumpy

what a sad time. :(

[Stockholm]

26. This is what Fitzmas is all about

Two thousand young man and women who sacrificed their lives on a pack of lies told by the soon to be accused.

No happy haha just quiet determined Rosa Parks-like fury.

[0007]

27. Will the MSM bring this new plateau of wasted lives to the attention

of the sleepy heads?

[bettyellen]

30. they just said "at least 1999" ?!? WTF ? all of a sudden they can't count?

just because the government won't do it for them ,they can't add 1998 + 2?

[papau]

31. US death toll in Iraq hits 2,000 (AFP reporting on CNN)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051025/ts_afp/iraq_051025110145;_ylt=AvRHt5JyvWRKHe_eBNEpMwuFOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

US death toll in Iraq hits 2,000
BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US death toll in Iraq reportedly hit 2,000 amid a sharp spike in violence that killed 14 Iraqis as the nation awaited results of a key vote on a charter aimed at curbing sectarian violence.

The US network CNN, quoting Pentagon sources, reported Tuesday that the number of soldiers killed since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq had reached 2,000 with the deaths of two more soldiers, a toll likely to add pressure on the US administration over its role in the violence-wracked country.

For the first time, a majority of Americans believe the Iraq war was the "wrong thing to do", according to a poll published in The Wall Street Journal.

Ten people were killed in a string of bombings in the Kurdish stronghold of Sulaimaniyah in northern Iraq, while another four were killed in Baghdad, the day after a spectacular bombing blitz on hotels housing international reporters and contractors killed 17.<snip>


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While Cnn reports 2000 dead - 320 mercenary "private guards" also dead
===================================================
but note the reports below:
http://icasualties.org/oif/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051025/ts_nm/iraq_referendum_result_dc_3;_ylt=A9G_RxWTH15D9wEAPiZX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051025/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_casualties_1;_ylt=A9G_RxWTH15D9wEAPyZX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
all say 1999 dead this morning - as listed out at DOD.
U.S. Deaths Confirmed By The DoD: 1990
Reported U.S. Deaths Pending DoD Confirmation: 9
Total 1999
DoD Confirmation List
Latest Coalition Fatality: Oct 23, 2005

===============================================================

http://www.iraqbodycount.net /
Meanwhile the above reports 26690 min to 30051 max in their worldwide update of reported civilian deaths in the Iraq war and occupation in their incident by incident data base (out os 110,000 "excess deaths in population total" due to Iraq war.
============================================================
And we are well over 30,000 military causality fight persons out of Iraq - some of whom died - but who are not "Iraq" deaths.
============================================================
Other Coalition Troops dead 198
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan 242
================================================

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/10/10/2_000/index_np.html

2,000 dead? Who cares?
Why is the country so oblivious to the Iraq war's casualties?
By Mark Benjamin<snip>

==================================================
http://www.mfso.org/article.php?id=411

On the Occasion of the 2,000th U.S. Troop Death in Iraq, Gold Star and Military Families Mourn and Speak Out: “Bring Them Home Now”: FAMILIES AVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW

Available for Interview: Families of deployed and fallen soldiers from Iraq War

NATIONWIDE – On the eve of the next horrific milestone, the 2,000th troop death in Iraq, families with loved ones who are serving in Iraq, families whose loved ones were killed in Iraq and families whose loved ones may deploy or re-deploy are calling on the Bush Administration, Congress and decision-makers at all levels to honor the fallen and prevent future deaths by ending the occupation of Iraq, bringing our troops home now and taking care of them when they get here.

These families, members of Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) and of Gold Star Families for Peace (GSFP), are asking local, state, and national politicians to speak out against the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Two and one-half years after the war began, the violence continues to escalate, with almost three U.S. servicemen and women (on average) dying each day, along with countless Iraqi children, women and men.

<snip>

=============================================
http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=11&q=http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/%3Fq%3Dnode/3831&e=9797
Call for Peace Upon 2000th US Death in Iraq | AfterDowningStreet.org

[Tesla]

32. Let's all stand behind Cindy today, Rosa would have wanted us to.

Mother of All Protesters
Talking with Cindy Sheehan, center of a rallying movement against war in Iraq
by Kristen Lombardi
October 24th, 2005 5:34 PM



Cindy Sheehan: 'This war is one issue where they should vote from their hearts, with courage and integrity.'
photo: Steven Sunshine
Cindy Sheehan, the superstar of the anti-war movement, will descend upon the White House on the day U.S. casualties in Iraq hit 2,000—a grim milestone expected any day now. Sheehan, whose 24-year-old son, Casey, was killed in Iraq last year, will say a few words in protest, and then tie herself to the fence. She says she won't leave until she's arrested. Once she's out of jail, she promises, she'll go right back to the fence.

And when she's done with that, she intends to set up a new Camp Casey outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, hounding him throughout the Thanksgiving holiday.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0543,lombardiqa,69280,2.html

[papau]

33. I agree -

:toast:

to Rosa - and to Cindy

:-)

[Botany]

48. Blessings & prayers on their spirits, families, and friends.

2,000 troops :patriot:

Far braver then the cowards that sent them.

:cry:

[emrenz]

49. What really sickens me most is...

...that reaching this milestone will only strengthen the administration's resolve to continue the war so that these 2,000 soldiers will not have died in vain.

It's really a sick, perverse view, that in order to justify the loss of life that has already occurred, we must sacrifice additional lives.

I ask you, where does it end?

[krkaufman]

51. And Osama been forgotten.

god, I pray that there's an afterlife; just so the members of this cabal can all burn eternally in hellfire.

[Fluffdaddy]

53. sad

[PurpleChez]

85. Ah, but the noble cause for which they died lives on.

Here's hoping Chimpy has the world's worst nightmares each and every night of his life. He probably sleeps like a baby, confident that he's doing the work of the Lawudd, but one can always hope.

[Voltaire99]

104. Shame, Hillary Clinton, shame.

Shame on you and all Bush collaborators whose cowardice and foolishness have fueled this nightmare.

It is one thing to have been panicked into war, to have swallowed and parroted obvious lies when we most needed you to be careful and critical. Quite another is remaining inert over two years in the face of mounting evidence and public opinion.

Cindy Sheehan is right about you. Like her, I won't be voting for anyone who supports the war. (See: http://www.counterpunch.org/frank10032005.html)

You can change that: start representing us rather than this imperial crusade and bring the troops home!

[catmandu57]

34. Will we leave before 3000?

Dammit we need to be out of the mess these bastards have us in, we're doing nothing but spinning our wheels in desert sand. Stuck, we've punched the tarbaby and now we're stuck. There is nothing to be accomplioshed now, nothing, just wasting lives and treasure on a neoconvict wetdream.

As has been said before we're the reason for the violence there, the sooner we get the fuck out the sooner they settle the power question, Of course now we arew set up for generations of revenge attacks here, thank you chimp*, thank you snarlin dick*, thank all of you son of a bitches that enabled these rat bastards to do this.

RIP.

[alcibiades_mystery]

36. No

We'll definitely reach 3,000

[Binka]

50. Tragic But True 2000 And This Thing Is Just Getting Warmed Up

Ben got out in the nick of time. This is a face that has seen some horror. Rest well Ben. :cry: Bring them all home you shitdust fucktards! I can't imagine how mothers who have a flag to hold feel. I just have no words and so much compassion. For all myriad Iraqi families as well. Salaam Ali Kum.

[Botany]

64. Is that Ben?

Ben :patriot:

Ben,

You have no idea how many have cried and prayed for you.
Get better or I will be really pissed :rofl:

[Binka]

65. Yes That Is Ben

He is getting better. I will be with him in five days. Thanks for your thoughts. :loveya:

[Botany]

67. No need to thank me.

Thank him for me.

[ninkasi]

66. I grieve for all the families

and friends of the ones who have been sent into harm's way, and lost their lives because a monster wanted his war. My heart goes out to the wounded, in body and mind, who will never see life the same again. I'm glad Ben is out of that hell, Binka.

This war is insane. I only pray that the whole administration will self destruct, that they become wounded enough politically to impeach the worthless POS who started this whole thing.

[swimboy]

73. On this sad day, I am so happy to see Ben.

I'm sorry for all he has been through and I'm so glad he has gotten out of Iraq. My brother is still there and still okay. I want him back here, though.

Please thank Ben for me for all he has done and give him my best wishes for a swift and full recovery.

Love to your family :loveya:

--swimboy

[Rhiannon12866]

90. Wow. Thanks for posting this. I'm so glad he's safe.

You've already been through so much. But, I agree, that our hearts must go out to the families of those who didn't get out. Their grief must be unimaginable. Our thoughts are with you and with them, and also with Ben.:grouphug:

[Number9Dream]

37. Bush's Vietnam

No exit strategy - No end in sight.
May Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the other numerous chickenhawks who lied us into this quagmire, burn in hell.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

38. Rest in Peace, Doc

and the Marines you took care of. from a former HM2.

[4dsc]

39. Bush- THE WAR PRESIDENT

I hope all the war supporters are NOT happy today!! I'm not!!

[BobF]

47. I know one war supporter who's happy!

I heard that Rummy won the White House office pool.



"Ha! I KNEW this would be the day. Two hundred bucks, baby!"

[PurpleChez]

87. I thought the answer was gonna be...

...SATAN!!!

[ClintonTyree]

93. My gosh, Rummie has false teeth!

Not that it's a big deal but it's the first time I've noticed. What a set of choppers!

[donkeyotay]

40. Congratulations, compliant, complicit co-opted media and your

Popular Wartime President. The majority of Americans didn't think this war was a good idea, and it would have been stopped but for lies about uranium, aluminum tubes, centrifuges, UAVs, mobile weapons labs, and a general flag-waving Kool-aide drinking rightwing assault on good sense.

May the 2000 rest in peace with the knowledge that evil like this will be held accountable.

[tuvor]

41. Recommended. This grim milestone needs to be recognized.

[hang a left]

42. US death toll in Iraq hits 2,000

US death toll in Iraq hits 2,000

Tue Oct 25, 7:06 AM ET

?x=180&y=114&sig=dRuURuytRUkaHBCBv_GV1Q--

BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US death toll in
Iraq reportedly hit 2,000 amid a sharp spike in violence that killed 14 Iraqis as the nation awaited results of a key vote on a charter aimed at curbing sectarian violence.

The US network CNN, quoting
Pentagon sources, reported Tuesday that the number of soldiers killed since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq had reached 2,000 with the deaths of two more soldiers, a toll likely to add pressure on the US administration over its role in the violence-wracked country.

For the first time, a majority of Americans believe the Iraq war was the "wrong thing to do", according to a poll published in The Wall Street Journal.

Ten people were killed in a string of bombings in the Kurdish stronghold of Sulaimaniyah in northern Iraq, while another four were killed in Baghdad, the day after a spectacular bombing blitz on hotels housing international reporters and contractors killed 17.

The Sulaimaniyah attacks targeted a building housing Kurdish peshmerga militamen and the convoy of a senior Kurdish politician, while security sources also defused a bomb outside a hotel used by journalists.

snip>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051025/ts_afp/iraq_051025110145

[sabra]

43. why?

rip. :-(

btw, might need to edit your post...

[callady]

44. how many wounded

Randi Rhodes put it at 45,000 on her show yesterday. The figure I have been seeing is somewhere between 15-25,000 wounded.

And the figure of Iraqis dead easily 120,000. The numbers of Iraqis wounded and in various states of physical, emotional, psychological trauma? Hundreds of thousands.


It's not about indictments-It's about war crimes.


They Are Not Numbers

by Cindy Sheehan

October 22, 2005
Truthout

I received this email today from a distraught Gold Star Mother:

How?
 
I have so many questions ... How I do I stop the vulgar pain in my chest? How do I do this? How I do I continue to breathe but cannot live? How do I do this? How do I keep my soul in my body? How do I do this? How do I close my eyes wondering if sleep should come but yet knowing if I sleep I will awaken to know this is not a nightmare but my life? How do I do this? How do I love someone with my very being but cannot ever hold him again? How do I do this? How do I go on without that sweet face that brought more joy to my life than I ever deserve -- never to be seen by my eyes again? How do I do this? How do I stop the scream that no one hears but me? How do I do this? PLEASE TELL ME ... how do I live without my child, my son, my heart, my soul, my joy, my validation to my life ... Please tell me ... how do I do this? How does the world go on without Steven ... how do I do this?

<snip>

Our young people aren't numbers. Our young people are confined to early graves because of criminals who should be confined to prison, who are profiting handsomely from the undeclared mess in Iraq. The Iraqi people are less than numbers. If they are counted or thought of at all, they are very often wrongly counted as "insurgents," when they are children and women.

    If mere numbers will wake America up, think of Dr. and Mrs. Death (Donny and Condi) when they say that this occupation could last at least a dozen or more years.


http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=1...
 

[warrens]

45. So what is Smirky going to give to the family of Lucky Ducky 2000?

A new dinette set? An amazing in-home rotisserie? A mini-spa for the master bedroom? All of the above?

These goddam chickenhawks make me wanna puke.

[marmar]

46. ...because of the lies and oil lust of an illegitimate president...

Je suis triste. :cry:

[Ernesto]

52. dup, sorry

[Fluffdaddy]

54. Mission Accomplish...........Thank you Bush

[Jon Gold]

55. 2000 Dead American Soldiers In Iraq

US death toll in Iraq hits 2,000

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051025/ts_afp/iraq_051025110145

10/24/2005

When confronted by this yesterday, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, again, made reference to 9/11 as being the reason our soldiers are dying in Iraq. Even though, again and again and again, it has been proven that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Our leaders made the argument that Saddam Hussein had ties to Osama Bin Laden. I say the BUSH FAMILY has more ties to Osama Bin Laden than Saddam Hussein EVER had.

It was recently reported that almost half of Iraqis approve of attacks against American and British soldiers. It was also reported that less than 1% of Iraqis believe we are making their country more secure. It is time to bring our troops home. They are dying for nothing more than lies conceived of by fascists.

2 hours, 10 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US death toll in Iraq reportedly hit 2,000 amid a sharp spike in violence that killed 14 Iraqis as the nation awaited results of a key vote on a charter aimed at curbing sectarian violence.

The US network CNN, quoting Pentagon sources, reported Tuesday that the number of soldiers killed since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq had reached 2,000 with the deaths of two more soldiers, a toll likely to add pressure on the US administration over its role in the violence-wracked country.

For the first time, a majority of Americans believe the Iraq war was the "wrong thing to do", according to a poll published in The Wall Street Journal.

Ten people were killed in a string of bombings in the Kurdish stronghold of Sulaimaniyah in northern Iraq, while another four were killed in Baghdad, the day after a spectacular bombing blitz on hotels housing international reporters and contractors killed 17.

The Sulaimaniyah attacks targeted a building housing Kurdish peshmerga militamen and the convoy of a senior Kurdish politician, while security sources also defused a bomb outside a hotel used by journalists.

In Baghdad, four people were killed, including two security officials shot dead in the violent southern neighborhood of Dura.

The capital was recovering from a triple suicide car bomb attack against hotels which killed at least 17 people Monday as Iraqis sat down to break their fast during the holy month of Ramadan.

A cement truck packed with explosives was stopped before it reached the Sheraton hotel, and disappeared in a massive flash that sent up a towering column of gray and black smoke.

The blasts rocked Firdus Square, where the statue of ousted president Saddam Hussein was pulled down when US troops marched into Baghdad in April 2003, and shook the Palestine, Sheraton and Sadir hotels.

"If the cement truck had not been stopped in time by guards who opened fire, it would have totally devastated the Sheraton," a security source said.

In the past week, almost 100 people have been killed as the number and strength of attacks surged following the start of former dictator Saddam Hussein's trial for crimes against humanity last Wednesday.

The latest blasts also underscored tension over the outcome of Iraq's draft constitution, which hung on the undeclared results of Sunni-dominated Nineveh province after a second region rejected it.

With a two-thirds majority "no" vote in three of Iraq's provinces sufficient to scuttle the document, all eyes turned to the "swing" northwestern province and its mixed capital of Mosul.

"There is no problem in this province," said senior election official Abdul Hussein Hindawi on Monday. "We don't have a result yet we will get it later today and give it tomorrow."

US and Iraqi officials hope the constitutional process will lead smoothly to general elections in mid-December and draw Sunni Arabs towards a political solution to end sectarian strife.

But the constitution, which is aimed at laying down a democratic future for Iraq, has exacerbated ethnic divisions with disaffected Sunni Arabs fearing it could lead to the break of the country and leave the country's oil wealth in the hands of Shiites and Kurds.

Growing calls for foreign troops to leave Iraq, where some soldiers and analysts say they have essentially become insurgent lightning rods, provoked comment by British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

"We are not going to defeat (terrorism) by getting out of Iraq, or by not taking the steps necessary to make the world more secure," Blair told Sky News television.

But Jane's Information Group analyst Charles Heymen said attrition among coalition forces would likely lead to a withdrawal at some point.

"The only people it benefits, of course, are the insurgents," he noted.

In the Wall Street Journal poll, 53 percent of those surveyed said they felt that "taking military action against Iraq was the... wrong thing to do", against 34 percent who thought it was correct.

Meanwhile, Saddam's lawyer and a team of foreign officials supporting the defense called for a UN probe into the murder of an attorney working for one of his co-defendants.

The letter emerged as Saddam's Iraqi lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi arrived in Amman to take part in talks on coordinating defense strategy for his next court hearing on November 28.

US President George W. Bush stressed it was crucial "that there will be a fair trial, which is something he didn't give many of the thousands of people he killed".

The trial against Saddam and the seven former regime officials over the 1982 massacre of 148 Shiite villagers opened on October 19.

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. Edit your post: 4 paragraph maximum from news articles

I know you're new. WEelcome to DU.

The rule is only 4 paragraphs can be snipped from news articles and copied. Fair use.

[Rose Siding]

61. Jon Gold, welcome to DU.

:hi:

Please edit your post to about 4 paragraphs.

Here's a link to some general forum guidelines:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

4. Copyrights: Do not copy-and-paste entire articles onto this discussion forum. When referencing copyrighted work, post a short excerpt (not exceeding 4 paragraphs) with a link back to the original.

[Jon Gold]

63. Thanks Rose

Just stopping through... I have my own site to maintain, but I heard you guys had a 9/11 Forum, and I wanted to post something... Thanks for the welcome.

[donheld]

72. Sad news.

:grr::cry::grr:

[Canuckistanian]

57. What a waste

Sickening.

[uppityperson]

58. More have died, "official count" now 1999. Be patient and grieve

Any way you count them, it is too many. Be patient and the "official count" will be 2000 soon enough.

[demobrit]

70. This is the official count , admitted fatalities

The actual death count could be many more

[Mr_Spock]

59. Culture of Life means Culture of Death in Repuke opposite-speak

Everything they say is exactly the opposite of what they mean. Hypocrites x(

[Kukesa]

60. Nominated. n/t

[uppityperson]

62. CNN retracted 2000 story

these guys have already been counted.

[Fluffdaddy]

68. Damn CNN get it F'ing Right.

[papau]

71. CNN has not retracted - link below to CNN story on the 2000

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/25/iraq.main/index.html

U.S. military death toll in Iraq reaches 2,000
Iraqi draft constitution passes, election officials say

Tuesday, October 25, 2005; Posted: 12:17 p.m. EDT (16:17 GMT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The war in Iraq saw two milestones Tuesday that reflect the country's path to democracy and its human toll as officials said the referendum on a draft constitution passed and the U.S. military's death toll reached 2,000.

CNN's count of U.S. fatalities reflects reports from military sources and includes deaths in Iraq, Kuwait and other units assigned to the Iraq campaign.

Among the latest casualties, an American soldier was killed Saturday by a roadside bomb, and a roadside blast killed two Marines in combat Friday near Amariya in the western Anbar province, according to the U.S. military.

Since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003, more than 15,000 American service members have been wounded in the conflict, according to the Defense Department.

According to CNN's tally, 2,194 coalition troops have died in the war. <snip>

[Rainscents]

81. CNN can kiss my ass! What the hell is difference? 1999, 2000?

Bottom line is they are dead all because of Bush's lies!!!

[deadparrot]

69. RIP.

...

[MadisonProgressive]

74. Death toll for U.S. troops in Iraq reaches 2,000

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9772398/

[LisaM]

75. That's awful

I hate the sort of "scorekeeping" some people do, though. It seems callous to me.

[Roon]

76. Death toll for U.S. troops in Iraq reaches 2,000

SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq - The U.S. military announced the death of an American soldier wounded in Iraq on Tuesday, bringing to 2,000 the number of American service members killed since the war started in 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9772398/

[MadisonProgressive]

77. Roon I posted mine at the exact time you did

[MadisonProgressive]

78. dupe

[rocktivity]

79. Congrats, I knew we could do it.

:mad:
rocknation

[Chicago Democrat]

80. This makes me very angry and sad!

TREASONOUS! SOMEONE HAS TO PAY!!!!



TREASON!!!!!

[cascadiance]

86. Shortly to be "2001: A Death Odyssey"

[Rainscents]

82. RIP for all the soldiers who died in this unjust war. They're all at

better place now.

[IndianaGreen]

83. Check your respective state forum to see events scheduled to memorialize

the fallen. I know the Indiana Forum has this posted.

[leftchick]

84. Thank You IG!

I will check mine.

[IndianaGreen]

88. Statement of the Communist Party of Indiana on the 2000th US casualty

Statement of the Communist Party of Indiana on the Occasion of the 2000th US Casualty in Iraq

No More Dead or Wounded - Bring the Troops Home Today!

The members of the Communist Party of Indiana, on the tragic occasion of the
2000th unnecessary US death in Iraq, condemn the US aggression against the
Iraqi people, the many thousands of Iraqi dead by US hands, and the horribly
sad reality of so many of our young women and men sacrificed to the lies and
greed of the oil-hungry and the powerful here at home. The reality of the
loss to the mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, and communities of our
working class youth who have died sear the hearts and minds of this Party's
membership and so many others. We stood opposed to this war before it
happened, when the country was lied to and pushed to support an attack on a
country that supposedly threatened the world with weapons of mass
destruction. The irony of the largest stockpiler and developer of weapons
that can wreak mass destruction, the United States, leveling such charges
against Iraq is astounding. Today, as most of our country questions the war's
premises and costs, we remain firm in our commitment to peace between the
people of Iraq and those of the United States, to the immediate withdrawal of
all US troops, and the rebuilding of Iraq for the Iraqi's. We said before the
war, and we continue to say today: This war has nothing to do with terrorism
or democracy; it has everything to do with oil. We say: not one more death
for oil, not one more death so that the rich and powerful can play their
heartless games with nations and with young lives, leaving carnage and
sadness as the heritage of their rapacious hunger for profits and their
savage greed.

On this deeply saddening occasion, a moment the Iraqi's marked a long time
ago, we embrace our brothers and sisters in the peace movement here and in
Iraq, and join with United for Peace and Justice and many others in demanding
the immediate end to this insanity: Bring the troops home today! Rebuild Iraq
for the Iraqi's. Not one more death, not one more grieving father, not one
more motherless baby. The United States can no longer afford to support the
greed of the 1% of the nation that controls the vast majority of the wealth.
We can no longer afford wars, environmental destruction, the rejection of
modern rational thinking in favor of distortions like 'intelligent design'.
Together we have to claim the socialist future that beckons us, a democratic
future of people before profits, the worker before the wealthy.

Not One More Death! Bring the Troops Home Today! Rebuild Iraq for the Iraqi's!

[High Plains]

94. Indiana has a Communist party?!

Who knew?

[IndianaGreen]

95. Hoosier workers are very oppressed

There are also several socialist parties and anarchist collectives in Indiana.

Here is the website for Indiana Communist Party:

http://www.indianacp.org/

[Algorem]

92. ABC radio news said Senate just observed a moment of silence for the

2,000th dead soldier.What's that do exactly?

[IndianaGreen]

96. It was the Democrats that called for the observance

Norm Coleman sat on the President's chair like a piece of broccoli.

[leftchick]

107. that is what CNN showed

normie coleman in his hairplugs leading a moment of silence. :grr:

[Rhiannon12866]

97. LBN thread from DU on 6/28/03: U.S. Death Toll in Iraq Passes 200

And we thought, back then, that this was a heartbreaking milestone...;(

What have we accomplished in more than two years since then? And how much longer is this going to go on?!:grr:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=7451&forum=DCForumID71&archive=

[IndianaGreen]

99. so sad that the political establishment still supports the war

They support the war when they say that Bush "mismanaged" the invasion of Iraq or that he lost the "peace." The reason they do not ever address the issue as to whether we should have invaded Iraq in the first place is because they support the same imperialist agenda that Bush is pursuing, except that they sugar coat theirs.

[Rhiannon12866]

102. The political establishment, perhaps, but support in congress is waning,

Not to mention that of the American people. When Bush* first launched his illegal and bloody war, I was engaged in an ongoing discussion with my friend, West Point and career army, and not always a pleasant one. I told him that Bush* had failed to learn one lesson of Vietnam (no big surprise), that you cannot institute tax cuts in time of war. And my friend came up with an even better comparison, that the government cannot sustain a war that doesn't have the support of the American people. Support is rapidly waning and I hope that this horrific milestone is the final blow to public support. I am waiting for the day when Bush* stands alone.:grr:

Today from Reuters: Bush: Iraq war will require more sacrifice

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1875241&mesg_id=1876704

[Historic NY]

100. Sad news..........all these deaths because of a lie.

We have surpassed the 1957-1965 period in Vietnam, losses then were 1863.

[Name removed]

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[Rhiannon12866]

101. Today from Reuters: Bush: Iraq war will require more sacrifice

Just how much more, Mr. Bush*?! And from whom?!!!:grr:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush, bracing for the fallout when the U.S. military death toll in Iraq reaches 2,000, said on Tuesday the Iraq war will require more time and sacrifice and rejected calls for a U.S. pullout.

"Each loss of life is heartbreaking, and the best way to honor the sacrifice of our fallen troops is to complete the mission and lay the foundation of peace by spreading freedom," Bush said, his voice breaking with emotion as he spoke at a luncheon of military wives at Bolling Air Force Base in Washington.

Bush's remarks were aimed at addressing criticism expected when the U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 2,000.

"This war will require more sacrifice, more time and more resolve," said Bush. "The terrorists are as brutal an enemy as we have ever faced."

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=10039535&src=eDialog/GetContent

[Seabiscuit]

103. 2,000 - not just a number. All those real people who are no longer with

us, thanks to the criminal cabal occupying OUR White House.

If they inspire us to take back our country in their name they will not have died in vain.

It's in our hands.

[malaise]

106. To think that they died for lies

along with thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens. Fuck Buscho!

[bixente]

109. it is a tragedy, but it illustrates my point

would a topic with the same amount of Iraqi casualties get 100+ responses? Of course not. Perhaps if 100, or 200 Iraqis were killed, it might. Maybe.