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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:38 PM
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Bush Hails Iraq Vote As Victory

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=45769

Bush Hails Iraq Vote As Victory

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Sunday said Iraqis' vote on a new constitution was a victory for opponents of terrorism.

"The vote today in Iraq is in stark contrast to the attitude, the philosophy and strategy of al-Qaida, and its terrorist friends and killers," the president said as he arrived at the White House after a weekend at Camp David.

"Al-Qaida wants to use their violent ways to stop the march to progress," the president said. "We believe and the Iraqis believe
that the best way forward is through the democratic process."

Bush congratulated Iraqis for successfully completing the balloting, saying that by all indications the turnout -- and Sunni participation -- was greater than in the last election early this year, and that there was less violence.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:40 PM
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1. Woopee! Now get out of there and bring our troops home!


Oh, and by the way Chimp, get Diebold out of our elections.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:46 PM
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7. Yep
Time to declare "Victory" and leave.

But where would that leave Halliburton? :sarcasm:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:51 PM
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9. Didn't he also say we won't leave, like we did in Vietnam?
I get the impression we are never leaving of our own volition. (That would be his volition, not ours.)
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:42 PM
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2. Of course he does.
No surprise here.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:42 PM
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3. Of course he does
He says everthing he does is a success, (except Katrina) if you remember he couldn't think of a mistake he'd ever made. :mad:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:44 PM
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4. I'd say, "Okay, let's humor him" if it wasn't for that teensy item
about adulterous women being stoned.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:44 PM
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5. Time for the INews 5000 WiFi Headline translator.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 05:00 PM by longship
Di-Di-Di-bah-bah-bah-bah---bah----bah

From First Coast News: Bush Hails Iraq Vote as Victory.

Here's the translation...

Spling...Blong...Blawp...Bleep....DING!

Translation: Iraqi Civil War Hails Down on Bush

Bah-bah-bah-Bah---Bah di di di di di

on edit: a tip of the hat to Marc and Mark on Morning Sedition
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:45 PM
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6. Finally liberty, freedom and justice have reached full bloom or is this
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 04:45 PM by indepat
just snake oil someone is selling?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:48 PM
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8. Well,with the way Chimpy's luck has been lately.....
He would call it a victory if he buttoned his shirt right.That stupid bastard makes me sick. :puke:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:54 PM
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11. hey, it's sunday. isn't that something to claim as victory, too?
The thing is that he is not stupid. He is demented and disgusting, but not stupid.
It is silly for us to underestimate his resilience and ability to do bad. No, it is dangerous for us to do so. OK, so it was Texas that elected him, but so did the GOP.

misguided, mischievious, misleading, missing the point and more? yeah. but not stupid.
Heck, he has used that stupid cowboy schtick repeatedly and gets away with it. If we think of him as stupid, and not evil, he has already gone haflway to being victorious again.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:51 PM
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14. How about both stupid and evil?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:52 PM
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10. Now THERE'S a big surprise. Of course he did.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 04:56 PM
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12. Bush's Iraq Vote Victory
But supposing the Sunni voters reject it? It will be a few days before the results are announced
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:47 PM
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13. If it were true, it would be wonderful
because then, as many of you already noted, we could bring our soldiers home.

Unfortunately for the Iraqi people, we are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

;(
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:07 PM
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15. Sunnis Reject Constitution?
This is a very strong possibility and would put the whole thing in the "crapper". A great many of them turned out to vote, and altho they are in the minority, stranger things have happened. Look at Fla in 2000.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:14 PM
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16. BUSH HAILS STONING OF WOMEN IN IRAQ!
BUSH'S PROGRESS; "Iraq Constitution"!

#1. bush will LIE AGAIN this week about his "PROGRESS" in Iraq;

MOST IRAQIS HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THE CONSTITUTION THEY'RE TO VOTE ON.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

It's expected to pass, because the VIOLENCE will keep Iraqis away from the voting booths.

Gee what "PROGRESS"!

Iraqis vote on 'invisible' constitution

Insurgency hampers distribution of crucial document as millions prepare to go to the polls this week...
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318225.ece

#2. 2000 Americans dead...for an IRANIAN-STYLE ISLAMIC STATE of repressed women in IRAQ;

"Unmaking Iraq, the Constitutional Process Gone Awry,"

The Iraqi constitution as written will push that country toward full-scale civil war, a report from a nonprofit organization warns. Melissa Block talks with Robert Malley, director of the International Crisis Group's Middle East program.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3703

"It may well be more of a prelude to civil war than a step forward," Anthony H. Cordesman said in an analysis for the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The Bush administration endorsed Iraq's proposed new constitution yesterday, but analysts warned that some provisions can be interpreted to undermine everything from the distribution of political power to a secular judiciary, from women's rights to fair distribution of oil revenue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082402217_pf.html

There are, however, significant doubts about the religious nature of the new constitution...

"It is written by Islamists for Islamists"

Zainab and her friend Zahra, 37, are both deeply apprehensive about the effect the constitution will have on women's rights. Since "liberation" by US-led forces they have seen the growth in the power of Muslim clerics and the diminishing power of choice.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article318609.ece

The Iraqi constitution's downside for women
http://www.juancole.com/2005/09/iraqi-constitutions-downside-for-women.html

Iraqi Women May Lose Basic Rights Under New Constitution
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0723-06.htm

Iraq's Draft Constitution Is Said to Deepen Divide...will likely trigger civil war...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/26/AR2005092601442.html

UN issues warning over Iraq constitution

There are fears that Iraq's draft Constitution, due to go a referendum next week, could trigger the break up of the country and even spark a bloody civil war.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2005/s1473209.htm
Americans Die for Sharia (ISLAMIC STATE) in Iraq

It's so Abdul the Iraqi can have six wives. It's so women can be forced to wear the abaya, alcohol can be banned, and sharia law – Muslim religious beliefs as interpreted by a council of mullahs and "grand ayatollahs" – can become the law of the land. As one of the Shi'ite clerics' representatives put it the other day:

"We don't want to see equality between men and women because according to Islamic law, men should have double of women. This is written in the Quran and according to God."
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=4774

#3. Iraq "constitution"...A Lose-Lose Referendum;

Five days before Saturday's referendum on Iraq's proposed constitution, the U.S. foreign policy elite appears both anxious and gloomy, increasingly worried that win or lose, the process will bring Iraq one step closer to civil war and, with it, the possible destabilisation of the wider region.

"We've looked for the constitution to be a national pact, and the perception now is that it's not," Gen. George Casey, the commander of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, told lawmakers here last week. "Now this constitution has come out, and it didn't come out as a national compact that we thought it was going to be."

Makiya believes the combination of violence and the constitution threatens "the very idea and very possibility of an Iraq".

Barbara Bodine, a veteran diplomat and Middle East expert currently at Harvard University, whose appointment to a senior CPA post after the invasion was blocked by neo-conservatives in the Pentagon, echoed that view.

"The United States has 'Lebanonised' Iraq. It is ironic that a structure that worked so poorly for Lebanon is now the template for Iraq."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1012-03.htm

#4. LUCKY Iraqi women! STONING FOR ADULTERY coming soon!

La Repubblica: "Putting it in a nutshell, there will be no more stoning of adulterous women, is that it?"

Al-Yasari, cleric al Sistani's spokesman:
"Well, it depends. In the case of married women whom eye witnesses can accuse of betraying their husbands, the punishment can only be that. But in any event there will be very few exemplary sentences, and they will always be issued after a fair trial."

Welcome to "liberated" Iraq – that’s what our troops are dying for, and that’s what you’re paying for. It’s medievalism with a "democratic" face.

http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/39110

STONING WOMEN! CIVIL WAR! VOTE for a "constitution" you've never read! That's PROGRESS if you're a bushbot idiot!
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