Iraqi Civil War Started: Allawi

[Barrett808]

CAIRO, October 16, 2005 (IslamOnline.net) – Former Iraqi premier Iyad Allawi warned Sunday, October 16, that civil war has already started in his country, accusing the incumbent government of allowing Shiite militias to infiltrate security forces and accentuating a spate of sectarian killings.

"This is one of the stages of civil war we are right in now," Allawi told Britain's Sunday Telegraph.

"What you have is killings, assassinations, militias, a stagnant economy, no services," said Allawi, who served from June 2004 until an elected government took over in April.

The ex-premier cautioned that the policies of his successor, Shiite Ibrahim Al-Ja'afari, he said, could cause the break-up of Iraq into a Shiite south, Kurdish north and Sunni central region.

Closely allied to the US and British governments, Allawi, 60, is the most senior Iraqi politician to have said that civil war has become a reality.

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http://www.islamonline.org/English/News/2005-10/16/article03.shtml

[thebigidea]

1. yeah, well thanks for doing your part to help incite it, ya cheap thug

I don't really buy this civil war thing, though. They're fighting us! And collaborators with us that are being used as sandbags.

[ixion]

2. uh, mission accomplished?

just curious. :evilfrown:

[htuttle]

3. It's a 'civil war' just like Vichy France was having a 'civil war'

[Earth_First]

4. "No Services..." -Allawi

I thought the Iraqi reconstruction effort was near complete?

[highplainsdem]

5. Link to a very important Knight Ridder story on this:

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/12885151.htm


I posted about this in GD Thursday night (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5057699 ). The story had come out on Wednesday so it was too old for LBN. Unfortunately it got only one reply there (which I replied to, to kick the topic back up, but it sank like a rock again). This is a major story, which I'd found via a Huffington Post blog that called it a must-read. The article said that not only are Shiite soldiers in the Iraqi brigades taking orders from Shiite clerics, but some of them are waiting for those clerics to tell them when to turn on the Americans. The woman who replied said that's already happening on a limited scale, according to what she's heard from her brother, who's serving in Iraq.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. I recall when the shiite regions erupted

in civil disorder almost a year ago. I was walking past a tv display and I though: 'well that is it, game over'. It is only a matter of time before there is a stunning military debacle in Iraq, one that even the media whores will not be able to ignore. We are arming and training the forces that will evict us from our occupation.

But we ain't going to cut and run says the commander in chimp. We ain't going to bail on his watch, oh no. Our children and theirs will be dying in the thousands, the blood will be running knee deep, but we won't be admitting our mistakes anytime soon.

[AlinPA]

6. Remember this is the guy that addressed US Congress to standing

ovations; they believed everything he said and ate up the propaganda at the time. Now? Bet rpigs and Bush**-Rove say he is wrong now.

[MGKrebs]

7. A partitioned Iraq is the most likely outcome IMO.

I mean, I'm no expert, but it don't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a country with those kinds of differences that was cobbled together to begin with is going to have difficulty remaining a complete entity with anything short of a... brutal dictatorship.

[Jose Diablo]

9. Thats the only way

But it won't stop there. There are sections of Turkey/Iran with the Kurds. There is also Saudi and the Shi'ites. The whole 'stability' in the middle east has been compromised by the neocon PNACers. And I doubt they thought the whole thing through.

Some Shi'ite will probably end-up with it all and will decide to take down western civilization by taking the whole world back to the 11th century and no oil.

[NYC]

10. Is this the same Allawi accused of embezzling $1 billion?

Probably.

[ECH1969]

11. Thats his defense minister

But, the defense minister is no better.

[Barrett808]

12. Allawi is a CIA asset and terrorist thug

Reportedly responsible for a couple of bombings inside Iraq in the 90s.