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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:12 PM
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Bush warns of 'war on humanity' (BBC News)
(He forgot to add the part at the end, "...Wars are not won without sacrifice and this war will require more sacrifice..." {by you poor people}, so I did.)

Thursday, 6 October 2005, 22:50 GMT 23:50 UK

Bush warns of 'war on humanity'


US President George W Bush says the insurgency in Iraq is part of a wider strategy by al-Qaeda and other Islamic militants to wage war against humanity.

Mr Bush said militants wanted to establish a radical Islamic empire, stretching from Spain to Indonesia. However, he added that it was a dangerous illusion to think the US would cut its losses in Iraq and leave.

He also said at least 10 attempted attacks by al-Qaeda had been foiled since 9/11, three of them in the US. Asked what the al-Qaeda attacks were, Attorney-General Alberto Gonzalez highlighted the failed shoe bomb attack by Richard Reid, but said others remained classified.

The White House cited two plots involving US citizens: an alleged plan by Jose Padilla to set off a radiological dirty bomb, and an attempt by Iyman Faris to sabotage the Brooklyn Bridge in New York.

Speaking to the National Endowment for Democracy, the president called on Americans to be patient over the ongoing violence in Iraq. "Wars are not won without sacrifice and this war will require more sacrifice, more time and more resolve," he said.

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4316698.stm>
(more at link above)
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:17 PM
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1. That should be changed to
"Bush WAGES WAR ON HUMANITY!"

If he wants "sacrifice," when's he sending his family's kids off to walk his talk?

DRAFT YOUNG REPUBLICANS!!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:17 PM
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2. "So go SHOPPING!"
His "major address" went over like a fart in sunday school, Rove's in Deep Shit Nine, Some Cons are grumbling about "Harri", so what do the chimp keepers do?


"Hey, everybody! Al-Ka-Seltzah is gonna blow up the subway in NYC!!! Buy Duck Tape! Buy plastic sheeting!"

I hope NYC has collectively grabbed their crotches and said "Yeah? I gotchur 'Real and Credible' RIGHT here!"
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:57 PM
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47. Al-Ka-Seltzah
:rofl: "Yeah? I gotchur 'Real and Credible' RIGHT here!" :rofl: you crack me up.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:00 PM
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50. Yes, go shopping. Move US resources to banks, cc co's, big oil, and China.
Consumerism must sacrifice (itself).

Lemmings meet cliff.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 12:13 PM
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51. I had a computer game a long time ago called "Lemmings"
What would be funny is if they re-issued that game with little RePukelican faces on the Lemmings. :evilgrin:
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:17 PM
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3. I thought he said "GOD TOLD HIM TO" go to war in Iraq!
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:18 PM by Tight_rope
This was long before Sadam and WMD, Al-Qaeda, and now a so-called established Radical Islamic Empire. The adults are confussing us again.:spank:
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:05 AM
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39. lol. Now he says God never said that and neither did he...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:22 PM
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4. someone please tell him to shut up
he continually shames this nation.

A War on Humanity? Oh please. :eyes:

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:24 PM
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5. Was he referring to the one he's waging?
Replete with lies, deception, torture, and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents?

Or was he referring to the great brown-skinned bogey man who "hates our freedom?"
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:20 PM
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41. My thoughts exactly...nice of him to finally warn us
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:25 PM
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6. What about Bush's war on humanity! ......What a hypocrite.....
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:27 PM
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7. Heard it before ..... the domino effect ..... S.E. Asia
and in both cases military businesses made tons of money.

"a radical Islamic empire, stretching from Spain to Indonesia"

Attn. bush ..... Spain is Catholic ..... maybe the Moors might come across
the Med. Sea again.

Even his staged crowd was not buying his crap.
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JustSayNO 2 Sheeples Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:28 PM
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8. Maybe I'm wrong, but
Is not humanity "ALL" of mankind? Regardless of race, releigion or ehhem, intelligence? So therefore Islam is waging war on itself?

You know, we'd be a whole lot better off (safer) if shrub would just quit pissing off the rest of the world.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:42 PM
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11. A bunch of guys in caves with boxcutters
want to take over the world. It couldn't be more obvious.

THE MAN IS DELUSIONAL!!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:31 AM
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38. here's a toon ------------- ------------------ > IMAGE
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:33 PM
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42. Your 'toon emphasizes the uselessness of massive weaponry in todays world


We no longer have a 'traditional' enemy. Massive armies do NO good against non traditional forces. What you need is intelligent intelligence and a well trained police force.

But two things argue against that idea. First, it's far to simple for the neocon to grasp. And second it won't make massive amounts of profit for the military-industrial-congressional-media complex.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:56 AM
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26. No humanity is
the white race. Get your facts right. Fugg Bush!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:40 PM
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9. Meanwhile, leading Dems want to send 80,000 more troops to Iraq.
This idea of noble "sacrifice" is a popular one across our entire corrupt political class.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:44 PM
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43. "corrupt political class". Totally agree. But the real question is:
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 12:45 PM by reprobate

How do we change the equation so that the politicians will not find it profitable to become corrupt?

One suggestion that I've heard is this: Elect each political office for life. Then, each year we hold another election to see if we agree to let them live another year.

Just a slight attempt at humor.

But the real question we MUST answer if our democracy is to return, is how to remove the influence of the corporations from politics. The only way I am aware of is to remove the concept of "corporate personhood" from our dictionary. And I can see no way that will happen under the current rules, and the USSC certainly wouldn't do it by their ruling.

Unfortunately, SAR (second American Revolution) is the only thing I can see that will do it. And even at that I believe I am doing nothing but wishful thinking.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:41 PM
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10. Projection & Freudian slip
It is Bush and his Cronies who are waging a War on Humanity.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:15 PM
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12. He is so fucking nuts.
Seriously, our president is mentally ill.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:50 PM
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13. Bush is sofa king
We Todd did!
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:46 AM
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25. true dot.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:01 AM
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14. He doesn't even know the meaning of the word n/t
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:49 PM
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44. Sure he does, he's leading the war against it!
Bastard
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:38 AM
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15. Uh, does he not know they are human?
As in humanity = lotsa humans? And Al Qaida is made up of humans?

Oh, I get it!

He thinks humanity = western civilization.

This guy would embarrass me if he weren't so dangerous!
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electricray Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:54 AM
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16. Anybody else get the feeling that this was a call for genocide?
I can't understand what Bush means when he says that this is a war that will not be won with compromise or somesuch. I don't remember the exact quote, but I remember thinking that you could attribute those words to any despot about to commit genocide and they would apply.

If we can't win the war on terrorism without the elimination of "islamofacism" wouldn't that be akin to calling for the rounding up and destruction of said "islamofascists"? Isn't destruction of a particular section of humanity something we should be against? Don't we as Americans value freedom of belief and speech and etc? Why not just marginalize the fundamentalists of all creeds and keep the justifiable reasons for mass murder to a minimum?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:11 AM
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23. Yes, it's hardly even thinly veiled.
At the end of the speech * said something about fighting until "Complete Victory". Hitler's concept was "Total Victory" and he was still repeating that mantra even as Berlin was virtually destroyed by Allied bombing raids and over-run by Soviet troops.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:06 AM
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17. I thought that lying lunatic * had the war on humanity covered,
you?
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:08 AM
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18. Is he warning that he's going to wage it?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:57 AM
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29. Yep. We need to listen to what they deny, what they
affirm (because they do oppositely) AND WHAT THEY ACCUSE OTHERS OF DOING.

It's straight projection.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:09 AM
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19. Humanity is much too complex a word for this ape to understand.
Just another word on another stupid speech.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:22 AM
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20. "this war will require more sacrifice" then I suggest the fucker start
doing some sacrificing of his loved ones

or better yet - he should go - straight to the front - him and all others who support the war
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:28 AM
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21. To Bush:
Hey! Idiot! Perhaps they wouldn't be able to establish a radical Islamic empire if you hadn't made it easier for them by creating massive instability in the Middle East by invading Iraq?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:35 AM
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22. "in a world where evil is still very real, democratic principles must also
be backed with power in all its forms: political and economic, cultural and moral, and yes, sometimes military." CONDOLEEZA RICE, 9/30/05 PRINCETON UNIVERSITY.

i guess the lady was preparing the people for the upcoming bush's 10/6 speech on the war on humanity.

Wake up Little Suzie or there ain't gonna be nothing left to wake up to.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:28 AM
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24. It may be too easy a comeback...
But Bush has been carrying on a "war on humanity" ever since being handed the Presidency...or maybe since becoming Governor of Texas...hell, his whole adult life!

:argh:

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:06 AM
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27. More projection... everything out of his mouth is about his dark side. nt
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:05 AM
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31. I couldn't agree more
The man is a textbook case of projection, and is comletely out of touch with his own shadow self. I remember reading Jung's early analysis of Hitler and the Nazi moevement. He could see the whole road ahead and predicted the direction Hitler would take.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:21 AM
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33. Agree. Projection 1A. The thing is, it's not just him.
It's a tactic of the whole cabal, of MendacityCentral. When you get it, they are very easy to read. Not a happy read but an easy one.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:55 PM
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46. I've heard it said that * shows all the signs of someone who gestated in..


an environment that caused fetal alchohol syndrome. Barbara WAS a drinker, wasn't she? And this was long before the dangers of fetal alcohol were know.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:22 PM
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49. I bet, if you could test for "hate" in a persons blood, she would be...
...off the scale, I'm sure her insides are practically Toxic.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 12:21 PM
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52. You said that right!

And if you're not a counselor of some sort in RL, you might think about that if you ever have to change your line of work.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:22 AM
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28. bush doesn't like competition -- the war on ''humanity'' is his idea.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:01 AM
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30. Justifying genocide
So really what he's doing is imputing that Islamic people are not human if they are making war on humanity. (How could himanity war against itself). More demonizing "the enemy." Turn them into a non-human monster and you can justify killing them because hey if their not of the same genome, it's not genocide now is it?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:14 AM
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32. could there be a more ironic headline? n/t
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Boo_Radley Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:28 AM
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36. In other news . .
"Bush warns of 'war on humanity'. And in other news, Bush vows to veto bill barring torture."

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:33 AM
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40. No kidding! He must REALLY value tourture...
...because the bill was attached to a Pentagon spending bill.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:51 PM
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45. Not ""value" It's a sexual thing with him. Like most sociopaths.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:33 AM
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34. A Republican I know tried to talk this way this summer.
After I cornered him and convinced him that this Admnistration was pure evil, he said, "You're right, we've done some bad things, but so have the Muslims and they want to conquer the world. You should see them, they are unclean and when they hand you their passports, the passports are upside down because they can't read. And they speak French!"

There is something very scary about Republicans who think this is a normal way to speak.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:57 AM
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35. no, not FRENCH!
but even they have enough sense of reality to see that their president is losing it.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 08:29 AM
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37. He is literally in the same leage as saddam
The ravings of a lunatic.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:58 PM
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48. God told him to say that nt
nt
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 12:25 PM
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53. "Bush Threatens 'War on Humanity'"...
... would have been a more accurate headline.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 12:28 PM
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54. War is Peace. Black is White. Day is Night.
Scary shit.

Make no mistake:

The war they wage is a war against ALL OF US....

:puke:
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 12:41 PM
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55. There are simply no limits
There are simply no limits to the hyperbole these guys are willing to use! War against humanity? By whom??? This is outrageous. lol. Now I'd suggest that this is fundie code intended to truly demonize the "evildoers" in oil rich countries Bush plans to be killing for years to come.
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