Al Qaeda says kidnapped two US Marines: Web site

[FlashHarry]

Reuters story breaking here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051002/ts_nm/iraq_qaeda_marines_dc

[still_one]

1. if true, which I still question, they should never have allowed

themseleves to be captured. I fear they are going to suffer in a terrible way

[Mandate My Ass]

2. Oh, yes they are. From the article:

DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda has kidnapped two Marines in western Iraq and issued a 24-hour ultimatum to U.S. forces to release female Sunni Muslim prisoners, a statement posted on a Web site said on Sunday.

"Al Qaeda soldiers succeeded in kidnapping two Marines ... and Al Qaeda is giving the infidels 24 hours to release female Sunni Muslim prisoners ... or they (Western forces) should not bother to look for their children," the statement said on a Web site generally used by the group.

[radwriter0555]

3. WHY are there FEMALE SUNNI prisoners?

And why is Al queda helping the Sunnis????

[TripleD]

7. Interestingly Reuters calls al Queda a "Sunni Muslim group"

"The Sunni Muslim group has often abducted and killed officials and soldiers."


WTF?

[Mandate My Ass]

10. Good catch, I didn't notice that. It's pure BS.

Al Queda is not a Sunni Muslim group. I guess anybody who wants their women to stop being tortured and raped is now a de facto member of Al Queda. :eyes:

[still_one]

16. Actually I think it is

bin laden is a Sunni as are most of the Muslim population

[still_one]

13. it is. bin laden is a Sunni Muslim

The majority of Muslims are Sunni. That DOES NOT MEAN that most Sunnis are al Queda though

[TheWraith]

25. Nobody said they are.

What was said was that most "Al Qaeda" types are Sunnis. Don't get paranoid.

[still_one]

30. LOL, I am not sure if paranoid makes sense in this context

paranoid of what?

[radwriter0555]

21. LOVE how the media and the bush regime has melded the faux terrorists

with an iraqi group...

"The easier to confuse you with, my dear...."

[still_one]

12. al queda is an organization composed of sunnis

In fact most of the muslims in the world are Sunnis, with about 20 to 25% Shiites

[radwriter0555]

20. Uh huh, and the chicks are in prison because......

why... again?

And lest ye forget, al CIAda is a pretty much fabricated 'organization' that has no reason to be in iraq.

[still_one]

22. I disagree with you, but nevertheless respect your views

The main reason we will not be successful in Iraq, other than it is an immoral war, is because the civil war that will errupt

I would be extremely surprised to see the Sunni and the Shiite unite. Their religious difference are quite strong in their mind. However, they will unite against us. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but only temporarily

[Freedomfried]

35. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the Iranian Farsi speaking types

of Muslims are Shiites and the Arabic speaking Muslims to the East of Iraq are the majority Sunnis.

With Iraq in the middle and having a population with a mix of the two.

[Massacure]

29. Fighting isn't limited to men.

I strongly disagree with how the U.S. conducts prisoner operations, but I would be naive to say that only men commit acts of war against the U.S., or crimes against other Iraqis.

[still_one]

11. I am not saying the sources are unreliable

I am just waiting for confirmation from the government

[SpiralHawk]

4. Pray that is not when BushCo's Wholesale Torture Policies

come back in Karma de Torquemada to our sons and daughters.

Pray we are not about to reap the consequences of the torture seeds Bush and his Oil Crony Republicans have sown so widely in the Mideast and Gitmo.

[FlashHarry]

6. Oh, but it's not the torture that does it -- it's the photos.

If we could just keep those darned photos secret, we could torture these heathens to our god-filled hearts' content!
</sarcasm>

[still_one]

18. The pictures are NOT for the world

but for the people here, so they can see what is being done in our name

The world already knows

[still_one]

15. I will, but it may be too late

[cassiepriam]

39. If true, our torture of the Iraqis will come back to haunt us.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

5. We Don't Negotiate For Hostages

Isn't that Shrub's motto? If they won't do it for ordinary American citizens that are captured, why should they for Marines?

Saying that....I'm sure they'll try and kiss up or else cover this up, because it would obviously not look too favorable if the U.S. non-media were to actually report a story about the beheading of 2 soldiers.

[cantstandbush]

24. But we will sell arms for hostages. Remember?

Our rep is much more important than a person's life. At least that is the way we behave.

[leetrisck]

8. Prayers

please - and for Pvt. (Sgt) Maupin who is still missing.

[oneighty]

9. POW provisions

of the Geneva Convention will protect them.

Maybe.

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[leftchick]

17. I don't think so

nothing can protect them. :(

[oneighty]

23. Sarcasm of course

Was it not our AG maybe soon to be Supreme Court Judge that declared the Geneva Conventions to be "Quaint"?

I wish he were over there to show us how it is "Quaint."

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[daleo]

26. Maybe if Bush respected these provisions, they would.

But, he hasn't, so they may not either.

On edit - saw the sarcasm not too late.

[oneighty]

28. As an ex military

I remember the POW rules by the Conventions referring to POWs.

Name service number and rank as spelled out on ones dog tags is an effort to protect the well being of those of both parties captured in battle (Or otherwise)and is the only information required to be given to the captors.

Gonzales destroyed that trust as did Bush* and his ilk.

And now we are paying for it.

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[0007]

19. This just may be propaganda, giving the US a reason to take a side

in the civil war.

Second time today that I noticed a reference to al Qaeda and the Sunnis.

[Left Turn]

27. This would...

be scarier if this hadn't been about the 12th time they've claimed this, and it never seems to be true. Let's hope it's not true again this time.

[Disturbed]

31. If true, these two Marines will...

be tortured then killed. There are many various groups comprising the Insurgency and most are not AQ, some are not Sunnis.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_insurgency.htm

[Binka]

32. I'm Sick My Son Is In Western Iraq He's A Marine

I don't know how much more of this I can stand.:cry:

[Andromeda]

40. I know how you feel.

My son is going to Qatar in November and will be organizing a humanitarian mission that will serve Afganistan and Iraq. They will be delivering medical supplies, other needed equipment and specialists to the troops.

My heart will be in my throat the whole time.

Keep the faith because you're not alone.

[Binka]

33. Dupe

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[Binka]

36. Hey Stuff It Buddy

Why don't you take your bad self over to Ramadi if you are such a good American? :puke:

[Disturbed]

37. Being anti-Amerikan Govt. is not...

being anti-American. I don't feel that most people, except most RWingers are confused by that distinction.

[cassiepriam]

38. Is it really true?

Would help Bush a great deal. Americans will rally to the cause now?