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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:08 PM
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Administration threatens veto over terror-war detainee amendments

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=108323

Administration threatens veto over terror-war detainee amendments


The White House threatened Friday to veto the Senate's $440 billion military spending bill if it restricts the Pentagon's treatment of terror-war detainees.

It's the second time this year the Bush administration has threatened to veto a Senate defense measure over Republican-sponsored amendments that would impose limits on how the U.S. military can detain, treat or prosecute terrorism suspects.

Friday's threat, in a letter to Senate leaders, signals a possible battle that could come at a risky time for President Bush. Polls show dwindling public support for the Iraq war and widespread dissatisfaction with the administration's handling of the response to Hurricane Katrina.

The letter Friday also threatened to veto the spending measure for several other reasons, including its dropping of an additional $7 billion that Bush wants.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:10 PM
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1. Call his bluff
bush doesn't have the courage to veto anything
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:11 PM
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4. Wouldn't that be nice
Pigs flying and all that.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:14 PM
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5. I agree....I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO VETO IT LT. AWOL...
...Go ahead, BRING IT ON!!!
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:49 PM
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12. That would be so sweet - no funding for the WOT, they'd have to
bring the troops home!!!

G'head George, pull out that veto stamp, dust it off (since you've never used it), ask Condi which direction you're supposed to hold it - then spend the rest of the weekend caressing it, drooling on it - think about it George, the POWER it represents, why no silly congressmen or women can tell YOU how to run your war, it's your war damnit, the one you're daddy didn't run right. Let them try to tell you how to do things, you can show 'em who's in charge George. Stamp that SOB rejected.

Please!?!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:27 PM
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19. Damn right! eom
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:10 PM
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2. Would that be *'s first veto?
:evilgrin:

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:11 PM
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3. So let him veto it
:shrug:

As if we need $440 billion more in spending -- especially military.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:19 PM
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6. If this isn't proof that BushCo is a bunch of
warmongering maniacs I do not know what more proof we could have.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:23 PM
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7. does show alot... especially if they veto for that specific reason.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:26 PM
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8. Well, if he doesn't think the Pentagon needs the money, ...
let him veto it. Hell, if a veto can't be overridden, pass it again and again until he either lets it go or gets impeached by an irate GOP Congress.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:32 PM
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9. Now we can afford to pay for Katrina
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:36 PM
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10. "I'll kill myself. I will. I'm not kidding. You just watch."
:puke:
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:42 PM
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11. God, he is really sold on torture. He really thinks the torture
of Iraq insurgents is a good idea. I'm just amazed.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:26 PM
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18. his dark God's probably demand it
Someone as evil as * has to have Dark God's right?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:58 PM
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13. Bush threatens defense bill veto, warning on prisoners
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House on Friday threatened to veto a $440.2 billion defense spending bill in the Senate because it wasn't enough money for the Pentagon and also warned lawmakers not to add any amendments to regulate the treatment of detainees or set up a commission to probe abuse.

Last summer, Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and John Warner of Virginia and others sought legislation banning cruel and degrading treatment of prisoners.

The administration has been criticized for holding prisoners at Guantanamo Bay indefinitely. Critics have also questioned whether administration policies led to abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093001153.html

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:58 PM
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14. "Just give us the damn money, and don't tell us how to behave."
"We answer to no one."
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:01 PM
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15. before my head explodes, let me ask this:
They really *are* publicly threatening these days on the very idea that *anything* deserves an investigation or even a question aren't they?

I'm trying to think of why on earth *any* American of any political persuasion would think that this is "good" or even "American" or something that should occur in a "democracy."

Is it me or has this wagon we call the United States really truly run off the rails. I don't mean that as a joke or an exaggeration. Forbidding investigations? What sort of hubris does a demand like that take?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:01 PM
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16. Please veto it bushie
How hilarious would that be?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:07 PM
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17. Way to support the troops, assmonkey!!!!!
All a veto would do is leave funding at last year's levels. The Congress will vote monthly continuing resolutions to pay out the same cash as last year. Unfortunately, a veto would not bring the troops home, though I wish it would.

I guess we should just ignore the increased requirements over there due to the insurgency, ignore the mission not accomplished, and leave those poor bastards over there without sufficient funding to even cover their asses or provide basic supplies, never mind "promote democracy."

If DOD has to rely on last year's funding levels due to continuing resolutions, they are gonna be in a world of hurt. Watch bases here in the states and around the globe get stripped of their funding just to keep pace...ships in port due to no fuel, eyestrain due to lights turned out, needed, programmed repairs not made, contracts cancelled, and CIVILIANS laid off (that'll make THEM chimpco supporters for life--NOT)...

Way to go, draft dodger!!!!

But you can be damned sure that "no bid" Halliburton, et. al., will get THEIR cash up front.
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