Postwar Civilian Deaths in Baghdad Probed

[Brucey]

NEW YORK - A human rights organization says it has confirmed 20 civilian deaths under questionable circumstances in Baghdad since May 1, when President Bush (news - web sites) declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq (news - web sites), and has received credible reports of dozens more.


In a report released late Monday, Human Rights Watch also accused the U.S. military of failing to conduct proper investigations into excessive or indiscriminate use of force in the Iraqi capital.


"It's a tragedy that U.S. soldiers have killed so many civilians in Baghdad," said Joe Stork, acting executive director of the Middle East and North Africa division of the New York-based group, which monitors human rights abuses around the world.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20031021/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_civilian_deaths_2

[DuctapeFatwa]

1. The Crusaders are there to kill Muslims, not count corpses

The American voting classes do not want to hear progress reports.

They want to hear "Mission Accomplished."

[Brucey]

2. This stuff enrages me.

Violations of the Geneva convention and every international rule for war and occupation. Every time Cheney was asked if the US could bomb an area with heavy civilian population he said yes. Never once did he think we should not bomb civilians. It reminds me of an exchange between Nixon and Kissinger that was taped. Nixon said the difference between them was that K cared about the civilian casualites. But K corrected him and said he only cared because he didn't want Nixon to look evil. Well, Bush, Cheney & Co. have gone one step further. They don't even care if they look evil. What is this madness that people in the US ignore? Why aren't we in the streets screaming? Why don't we take back our government and stop killing people?

[DuctapeFatwa]

5. What can you expect of a "nation" born of genocide, weaned on slavery?

It's an American tradition, our proud way of life the "troops" are "fighting to defend."

It is neither in the long-term interest of ordinary Americans nor compatible with the extended continuation of the species.

[bread_and_roses]

7. yes

we must find ways to frame that so that the average person who has ony time to listen to maybe five minutes of news a day begins to see it...a big challenge...

[DuctapeFatwa]

8. Or we can just wait till they don't have to watch the news to see it

Societies make choices, choices have consequences.

The US is living on borrowed time with a big balloon payment outstanding.

[MasonJar]

3. Sanctions

I do not understand this. Are there not sanctions for breaking these international treaties like the Geneva Convention?

[Brucey]

4. I agree.

It's pathetic that the world sits back and lets the US do whatever it wants. Like a bully without any authority.

[beanball]

6. Civilians

in harms way.After reading the headline today about the murder of poor civilians in viet nam,it seems like nothing has changed,the military is not accountable for their actions,our government gives them medals instead of a padded cells.(remember what the Germans said after ww2?,we didn't know,will that be our excuse?I hope not because we do know.)