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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:05 PM
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'America will never leave Iraq', US soldier says
"The Iraqis don't want us there. They see us killing their brothers, sons and children, and that makes them resent us," he says.

"Even though we brought them freedom from the Iraqi regime, they still hate us."

Prostitution, he tells me, once illegal before the American occupation, is now rife in Iraq, and hundreds of girls throughout the country are being sold into the seedy world of brothels and sex slavery.

"For one dollar you can get a prostitute in Iraq for one hour," Patrick says.

"For $10 you can get a room, wash her up and do the business," he adds.

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:11 PM
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1. I'm speechless.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:53 PM
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15. Why? I posted and it only takes a little sense (Non-GOP Christian sense
to figure out that males will find sex from women, men, and/or children very quickly. I'd guess a soldier could go about 3 days without sex. As I posted dozens of times years ago on the DU. Do our soldiers masturbate every other night or do they hire an Iraqi women for sex? It's your choice but there is no third option! Just as Vietnam there are already Iraqi women who have given birth to American soldier fathers.

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:14 AM
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26. I wasn't speechless about that.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:14 AM
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28. 125 degree days
with no air conditioning should help lower that libido issue.

But then raging unemployment and poverty helps make prostitution a better option, compared to starving.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:14 PM
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2. America will never leave Iraq,
until we have another 53,000 names to put on a Wall.

Does it have to be for that long, Lord?

Redstone
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:15 PM
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3. ....
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:45 AM
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25. Yep
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:18 PM
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4. can you fix the link? (eom)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:18 PM
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5. And it will be a Killing
Machine for US soldiers.

We'll never leave Iraq with Dirty politicians in power..that's for sure.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:19 PM
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6. Ahh, bringing good old Babylon back to life.
Apperantly having historical biblical Israel wasn't enough for these guys, so they've decided to bring back the prostitution, the sodomy, of biblical Babylon, which was located historically in Iraq, south of Bagdad. All hail George Bush, new king of Babylon!!! Whooooh!
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:20 PM
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7. Women ALWAYS suffer during wars, because of wars
And bush has about the same disregard for women -- by appointing Roberts to the Supreme Count.

Next school girls will be attacked in Iraq -- and the school for girls will be burned down. Bush has created a new hell for women.

Now if reincarnation does happen -- guess what & where I'd like to see bush reborn?

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:21 PM
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8. Everyone suffers in a war.
The character of the suffering dished out, though, varies depending on quite a few factors, gender included.
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:26 PM
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9. I don' t know about that.
BushCo and Halliburton seem to be doing OK.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:29 PM
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11. Everyone? Oh, please!
None of our fat assed, chickenhawk Freeper countrymen are suffering. The Repug party isn't suffering. Bush isn't suffering. The oil companies aren't suffering.

What's this everyone crap????
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:23 PM
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17. Perhaps the type of suffering they'll do is in the history books.
:shrug:

But I'd point out that these people aren't in war...they're about war.

Suffice it to say, just about everybody in Iraq is suffering right now.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:28 PM
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10. Oh, we'll be out of there
Hanging on to helicopters as they drive us out. We have no way of winning; right now most of our people are in hiding far from Iraqi eyes, and the ones who are sent on visibility patrols are taking horrendous casualties. They always compare the casualties to the total number of troops, but most of those troops are sitting behind barbed wire far from anywhere, except during organized strikes on cities. A fraction of our troops are taking the bulk of the casualties.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:36 PM
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12. did anybody actually beleive we would?
I think it's fairly apparent that there was never any intent to leave.

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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:43 PM
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13. $1 prostitutes?
Does brother Neil know about this?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:50 PM
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14. It's exactly the western-style nightmare the Islamists predicted
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 09:51 PM by smoogatz
We've killed their children, tortured their men, stolen their oil and turned their women into whores. But on the upside, we've brought them a Shiite theocracy and pushed them into bed with Iran. Of course, it's wildly inaccurate to suggest that we'll never leave. We'll leave--how long does it take to pump 220 billion barrels of oil?
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:17 PM
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16. Sounds like Iraq has morphed into a new Saigon
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:30 PM
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18. Those brothels are INSIDE THE GREEN ZONE!!!
Meaning that the prostitutes are passed through checkpoints in large numbers on a daily basis. Imagine the humiliation you go through at an airport times ten.

It's absolutely clear that U.S. troops cannot venture outside of their bases under any circumstances at less than company strength. That means that any and all prostitution happens under the watchfull eyes of U.S. authorities including the 13 year old girls.

They hate our freedoms.
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librarycard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:10 AM
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23. Porcupine, do you have any other info on this subject?
as disgusting as it may be? I may do a followup.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:36 PM
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19. oh, we will leave, but not until the oil runs out.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:49 PM
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20. Patrick's opinions are an example of the new mentality among many members

.....Patrick's opinions are an example of the new mentality among many members of the US military towards the conflict in Iraq.
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librarycard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:12 AM
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24. Interesting that none of them is talking about Osama
How easily they were thrown off the scent by the neofascist media.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:52 PM
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21. "there is an irrationality about Patrick's beliefs."


...For all his supposed anti-war views, there is an irrationality about Patrick's beliefs.

In one instance, he believes America shouldn't be in Iraq, that the information conjured up about Al Qaeda and terrorists were all lies.

But, he still believes it is America's role to free suffering people from tyranny, and this, he feels, for better or worse, is what they did in the Middle East.

"I don't like Middle Eastern people," he adds curtly, "but I believe in their right to freedom......"
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:15 AM
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22. Well at least this soldier kinda gets it...
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:39 AM
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27. he seems to see most of the dots, but isn't quite connecting them yet
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:28 AM
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29. that guy said some weird stuff about people from the ME
odd cat.
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:50 AM
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30. Said the same thing about Algeria
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:42 PM
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36. The threat of civil war in France itself is what ended the Algerian War
People were dying in the streets in France and regular bombings were occurring. Left and right were at each others throats over the Algerian question.

Could such a thing happen in the United States? Some think it almost came to that over Vietnam.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:58 AM
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31. Have fun in Leavenworth.
There's another one who will be silenced.
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:36 AM
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32. Why
does this soldier hate America?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:47 AM
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33. Irrational, no question about it.
"As one Irish journalist noted about the United States: "Truly, America's irrational streak runs deep."

That Irish journalist is a genius!
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:57 PM
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34. The moral troops
whereever the american soldier go,Germany,Korea,England,France the hookers will be there to ply their trade.Yo Farwell,and the rest of the TV preachers where is your outrage? you hypocritical,money grubbing,hellbound basbards.You are employed by satan,just like our selected clown in the out house,oops that should say whitehouse.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:38 PM
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35. Baghdad was overflowing with illegal drugs 1 month after the invasion
Whereas drugs were severely controlled under Saddam. I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA itself didn't introduce drugs into Iraqi society. There must be think tank proposals that getting an entire generation of young Iraqis hooked on drugs would cut down on the will to fight and any insurgency (which apparently didn't work). It's said the same tactic was tried in the African American community following the riots of the 1960's. And the drug trade for the CIA has long offered them a means to finance covert operations and keep them off the accounting books.
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