High court pick to have 'mainstream' values - Bush

[sabra]

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High court pick to have 'mainstream' values - Bush


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush pledged on Saturday to pick someone with "mainstream" values to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court and urged a fair and dignified confirmation process for his eventual nominee.

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The list of people Bush is considering to replace retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor is being closely held by the White House. Aides say Bush is likely to announce a decision later this month.

"My nominee will be a fair-minded individual who represents the mainstream of American law and American values," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"The nominee will meet the highest standards of intellect, character and ability and will pledge to faithfully interpret the Constitution and laws of our country," he added.

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[Coventina]

1. Oh great. "Mainstream" by Bush's standard

:eyes:

Let's see... that would be pro-war, anti-privacy, anti-environment, anti-poor....I'm sure there's a lot more.

[TankLV]

14. You forgot the "small" major reason: FUNDIE RELIGION!

While at the same time splitting hairs and spending countless nights trying to figure out how to limit funds to just their brand of christ fascist fundies.

[DanCa]

33. Heaven Help US

Fundie religion is not based on christianity.

[sleipnir]

2. Who's mainstream values?

That's what I want to know.

[saigon68]

40. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[tk2kewl]

3. how 'bout one who doesn't let their own value system enter the equation

and just deals with the law? :shrug:

[symbolman]

4. Sure.. someone that considers "organ failure" to be torture

but anything other than that is fair game..

I thought they couldn't do worse than Crisco Boy for head Legal, but now, to install someone that obviously HATES HUMANS on a basica level - not main stream enough for me..

I'm ready to start calling him "Gonzales THE IMPALER" (like good old VLAD that the vampire stories sprang from)..

Only this guy eats tacos while people writhe in pain...Caviar Tacos..

I hate these people with a passion, and wish only their own mindset be used against them by their own followers.

[wli]

39. Vlad III Dracula is a good case against torture

The torture he likely experienced while imprisoned for the vast majority of his life doubtlessly inspired his famous antics.

[progressivebydesign]

5. Excellent News!!!!

Cuz mainstream values are NOT what Bush and his wacko PNAC, evangelical, pals are touting. If he means "mainstream" then that would certainly preclude the criminals and nutjobs he associates with.. right?? (sarcasm alert)

[bullimiami]

6. his lips are flapping again and all that comes out it bullshit.

[Mari333]

7. Mainstream values like Torture, Lying, Covering Up, Corruption

Thats Bush's mainstream values.

[rzemanfl]

8. "Mainstream" to * is the place where the bullshit flows deepest.

How are we going to stand putting up with this asshole until January of 2009?

[Zorra]

9. Faithfully interpret the constitution as Bu*h needs it to be interpreted

for his corrupt nasty fascist deeds.

[bemildred]

10. Translation: Bush to lie about USSC pick's values and intentions. nt

[leetrisck]

11. Just like Clarence Thomas

too funny. Thomas should still be impeached.

[journalist3072]

12. I'm still embarrassed.....

That I supported Clarence Thomas during his confirmation hearings.

I was wet behind the ears politically then, and all I saw was a black man trying to be elevated to the Supreme Court, and I supported him.

Now, I understand that just because someone looks like me, and has my same skin color, doesn't necessarily mean that they represent my interests or represent my values!

[iamjoy]

19. That Is The Problem If A Minority Is Nominated

Take Janice Rogers Brown, or Condeleza Rice (when she was nominated for Sec State). African American women

It would be like Clarence Thomas all over again. Many who don't pay that much attention to politics or qualifications believe the spin. They applaud Dubya for his diversity and don't understand why Democrats are blocking her, only that they are trying to keep the blacks down.

The truth is, at least in the case of Brown and Thomas they are enemies of civil rights. For example, in Aguilar vs. Avis Rent-A-Car Systems (1999), Brown argued that free speech protections include allowing ethnic slurs in the workplace (and that such behavior does not constitute discrimination for "hostile environment"). As for Clarence Thomas, he was the only person on the Supreme Court who didn't think Thomas Miller-El deserved a new trial, even though the Dallas prosecutors who convicted him worked off of a manual with the following guidelines for jury selection, "Do not take Jews, Negroes, Dagos, Mexicans or a member of any minority race on a jury, no matter how rich or well educated."

As for Alberto Gonzalez, I do not feel he is hostile to minorities, but his record on civil liberties should cause all freedom loving Americans to tremble. If he could so easily dismiss the Geneva Convention, and so narrowly define torture, how would he interpret due process and cruel and unusual punishment? But, I bet a lot of Senators confirmed Gonzalez because they had significant Hispanic populations in their state & feared losing a major constituency if they did confirm. A profile in pragmaticism rather than courage.

We need to do a better job of getting our message out. We need people who are members of the minority to speak out against these people. When Whites do it, we just get labeled as racist, but in a way, it is reverse racism to like a candidate or nominee just because he/she is African American or Hispanic.

[journalist3072]

30. Excellent post....

And I agree with you 100%

The Democratic Party has to do a much better job of really getting its message out, and explaining things.

It is unfortunate, but many Americans get their news and information in 30-second soundbites, and that's not long enough to really explain an issue to someone.

We need to start explaining, in detail, WHY we oppose these nominees, and what makes them so outside the mainstream of American jurisprudence.

[iamjoy]

38. Actually, Al Sharpton Said It Well

Clarence Thomas may be my color, but he is not my kind. I'm not normally a fan of the reverend, but he made some excellent points during the campaign.

Thank you, by the way.

[journalist3072]

41. Al Sharpton was on fire during the campaign...and I voted for him...

I voted for Al Sharpton during the Democratic primary.

And he's absolutely right about Clarence Thomas.

[arwalden]

13. WHOSE American "Values"??

"Faithfully interpret" is code for "strict constructionist".

Weren't "strict constructionists" in the court responsible for giving us the Dred Scott decision?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

The Court ruled that:

No Negroes, not even free Negroes, could ever become citizens of the United States. They were "beings of an inferior order" not included in the phrase "all men" in the Declaration of Independence nor afforded any rights by the Constitution.

The exclusion of slavery from a U.S. territory in the Missouri Compromise was an unconstitutional deprivation of property (Negro slaves) without due process prohibited by the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution. This is the first appearance in American constitutional law of the concept of "substantive due process," as opposed to procedural due process.

Dred Scott was not free, because Missouri law alone applied after he returned there.

The Court also presented a parade of horribles, describing the feared results of granting Mr. Scott's petition: "It would give to persons of the negro race, ... the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, ... the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went." Scott was not a citizen of Missouri, and the federal courts therefore lacked jurisdiction to hear the dispute.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=60&invol=393

[barb162]

15. mainstream of 20 yrs. ago or mainstream of today?

[librechik]

28. nope, mainstream of 120 years ago

the Golden Age of Jingoism, Corruption and Graft.

[NYC Liberal]

31. Unfortunately that still lives on today too.

[VegasWolf]

16. Sounds like a job for Mr. Ashcroft. nt

[Robbien]

17. When really is he going to appoint a very corporate friendly judge

while hiding behind devisive social issues.

Everyone hold on to your wallet because this judge will be out to pick the middle class pockets for the benefit of the elite.

[VegasWolf]

18. Looking for a judge that will push abortions into the back alley where

they should be. <\sarcasm>

[HockeyMom]

29. Overturn Griswold too - - Seriously

They don't like that either. Abstinence Only Until Marriage. If you abstain from sex when you are unmarried (whatever your age), you won't need birth control.

Faithfulness In Marriage. If you don't cheat on your spouse in marriage, you won't need birth control(??).
Faith Based Birth Control - "Dear God, Please don't let me get pregnant". :sarcasm:

[JABBS]

20. Bush Weekly Address Gives Nothing on Supreme Court Pick

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2005/07/16/180017.html

(Note: AP headline is "Bush Drops Hints on Supreme Court Choice," But don't get your hopes up ...)

WASHINGTON - President Bush gave the nation several clues Saturday about the person he will nominate for a seat on the Supreme Court, except for the most important one - a name.

In his weekly radio address, Bush said his eventual nominee will be a "fair-minded individual who represents the mainstream of American law and American values."

His candidate also "will meet the highest standards of intellect, character and ability and will pledge to faithfully interpret the Constitution and laws of our country," the president said.

"Our nation deserves, and I will select, a Supreme Court justice that Americans can be proud of," he said, without revealing the name that many are anxious to hear.

[wallwriter]

25. Bush is hamstrung.

With Rove in full-time ass-saving mode, he can't say anything of actual import...

[UpInArms]

21. will he stick a Poppy pardoned criminal in the court now?

:rofl:

"mainstream" :rofl:

the bubbled buffoon doesn't know "mainstream" - he's surrounded by morans!

:rofl:

[Kerrytravelers]

22. Mainstream? Uh-oh... I"m getting scared.

"The nominee will meet the highest standards of intellect, character and ability and will pledge to faithfully interpret the Constitution and laws of our country," he added.


Does * even know anyone like this?

[pfitz59]

23. Mainstream=Federalist Society?

ABA no longer gets a voice on Bush* judicial nominees, they're vetted by Federalist Society whack-jobs! Guaranteed his pick will be horrific!

[BillZBubb]

24. Sure, George, and Iraq had WMDs, and you want to save

Social Security, and your tax breaks for the rich will create 12 million jobs over 4 years. Catching Osama Bin Laden is your number one priority. Oh, and you'll fire that Plame leaker too!

Sure, I believe you will nominate someone from the "mainstream". After all, we have your word on it.

[Deja Q]

26. Like everyone else said: reagan's values. We'll know the truth when we

know who the candidate(s) are.



Deceit, lies, trechary, double-dealing, extortion, embezzlement, hypocrisy...

[librechik]

27. so, Opposite Man says he'll pick a mainstreamer

expect the opposite.

after all, this is the leader of a sect which proclaims that mainstream in America is anti abortion, pro war, and anti government aid to the poor.

[Name removed]

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[deadparrot]

34. Ha. Ha ha.

Ha.

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[Toots]

36. Do you think Bush* believes he has "mainstream values"?

:shrug: It ain't gunna be pretty

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

37. Mainstream?

As in a trickling stream of urine?

[Threedifferentones]

42. I guess that means the nominee will be part of the

"moral majority."

Yeah, right.

[flaminbats]

43. appointing a judge or an interpreter?

"The nominee will meet the highest standards of intellect, character and ability and will pledge to faithfully interpret the Constitution and laws of our country"

just using the arguement neocons used against us!! A judge should not just enforce the law, but also faithfully interpret it based on his or her fanatical opinions..:crazy: