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JackieO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 07:16 PM Original message |
Monkey tests at heart of Merck case (Vioxx) |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. But...but...but...but..... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Of course it is necessary. Do you seriously think they test it on humans |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Glad they didn't test chocolate on dogs then :) n/t |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Or aspirin on cats. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Last I checked, chocolate wasn't a drug. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Wow, talk about obtuse. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. No? Really? |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I just figured that since you flock to these threads |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. My opinion-people who oppose to animal testing are |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Uh, most people who oppose animal testing |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I eat meat, wear leather, and support animal research. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. But you have a problem with PETA euthanizing animals. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. And I guess you don't have a problem with Peta |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. That's not my experience. |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. That's great. |
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cheeseit (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
70. Nice- insist all drugs be tested on animals, then call... |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. I am opposed to animal testing and I am a vegetarian, |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Do you use pharmaceutical drugs? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Actually... |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Depends on the type of chocolate - |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yes. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. me too! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 01:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Or amanita mushrooms on squirrels |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yeah, and penicillin worked so well on animals. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. With what would you replace animal testing? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I assume he/she wants to replace animal testing with human |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Yes, that's exactly what I said. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Uh, my question still stands. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Answered below. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. I propose that we do testing on death row prisoners. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. The prison reform people won't let you test |
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Dave Reynolds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. No shit? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 07:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
69. OK. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
57. I would support human testing |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. There's a list of alternatives... |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Thanks Shockra. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Those aren't alternatives. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. My answer: |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So, you don't actually understand the research process? |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. The question of a pig's intelligence and the research process |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. No, they aren't different issues. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I'm saying intelligence is not a factor |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I accept it because... |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. And there's the fundamental difference between us. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Except... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. I am a scientist. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Dr. Pippen disagrees with you |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. In fact... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I've never heard of a Dr. Pippen. |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. About Dr. Pippin |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Dr. Pippin's views are clearly an exception, not a rule. |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Putting ethics before profit is the exception, yes. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Oh, we wouldn't want to be sentimental. |
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livinginphotographs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. One thing to say.... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. I also work in the field. And while I personally |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 11:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Mouse study suggests Alzheimer's damage reversible |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I'm suspicious that this isn't more drug hype. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 07:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. You're suspcious? Drug "hype"? |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. I guess this is good news for mice.... |
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JackieO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. If you want to read something weird |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Wasn't weird at all :) |
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JackieO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. the weird part |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 02:56 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Then there's the whole thing about farm animals. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-05 07:20 AM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Yeah, those horrific researchers. |
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Dave Reynolds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Required by law. |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-05 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. Let's experiment on chimps...starting with George.... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Nah....I wouldn't even put him through what those poor |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 08:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. You're probably right , damn it. I'm probably also too much of a |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
43. Animal experimentation is a logical contradiction |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Either/or statements that simplify ethical questions... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. Bush based science is bound to focus on monkey health |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-05 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
53. The Human Cost of Animal Experiments |
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