Rape victim anger at police guard (interesting pic of female guards)

[rodeodance]

This is friendly ally--where the victim is punished at the men go free.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084000.stm

Saturday, 11 June, 2005, 14:52 GMT 15:52 UK

Rape victim anger at police guard



Mukhtar Mai, gang raped allegedly on the orders of a tribal council in 2002, demanded the restrictions be lifted.

On Friday a court ordered that 12 men imprisoned in connection with the case must be released by Monday.

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz told reporters in Islamabad that any security measures in place were for the protection of Ms Mai.

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Ms Mai, 36, said she had suddenly appeared on a government list of people prevented from leaving Pakistan.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Our "good friends" the Pakistanis...

seem to be having problems with this woman who was raped to "punish" her brother. Presumably, her rape brought shame on the household.

At least someone is trying to bring the actual rapists ot justice, but no one seems to be trying to change certain bizarre aspects of their culture.

So, once again, what's all this I hear about us expanding human rights around the world?

[warrens]

2. Citizen, report to the nearest reeducation camp

Pakistan, like Saudi Arabia, is our ally. Therefore, it must be free and democratic. To think anything else is treason.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. Not till I see our Secretary of State.

visiting Afghanistan in a burkha.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. No the neo cons believe our foreign policy should NOT be tied to human

rights, but unfortunately that started with Clinton who decided our TRADE policy should not be tied to HR

[TreasonousBastard]

14. Quite frankly...

few countries have ever had successful foriegn policies based on human rights. It's just the sort of thing that gets lost among other priorities and realities, and lip service is given, but rarely much effort.

Carter's attempts were from the heart, but we see how well he was able to get anything done. BushI went into Somalia for largely compassionate reasons, as Clinton went into Haiti, but larger forces doomed them to failure.

Nope, human rights is always a good bragging point when something works out, but rarely really takes center stage. If it did, the world would not have let the slaughter in Africa go on for so long. Or would have stood up to more repressive regimes.

These guys in Washington now, though, are more cynical than ever before. Absolutely the worst, and make the old Cold Warriors look like angels. Nobody's rights but their own mean squat to them.

[Colorado Blue]

19. It's going to be hard to change the ways of thousands of

years.

Even for us:)

[AX10]

4. There are no two states that would harm us more than...

Pakistand and Saudi Arabia. Those states are the REAL terrorist threats. But clearly, because, they are "our freinds", this obviously doesn't matter, because an ally of the U.S can "never" be "wrong". (sarcasm)

[Colorado Blue]

20. Saudi Arabia is really a strange case. As custodians of

Mecca and Medina, they surround and guard the holiest sites in all Islam. And, the Wahabi sect, currently in power there, isn't mainstream Islam. They aren't modern at all. Women are completely covered in black, even the eyes, can't leave the house without male permission or unaccompanied. Fatwas have been issued against the telephone, the roundness of the planet, and women driving.

The fatwa against the roundness of our planet was lifted because a Saudi prince went on the space shuttle and SAW it. Then, the preachers believed the earth is round and withdrew the fatwa.

Meanwhile, there are many highly educated and sophisticated Saudis. They're in the middle between "The Great Satan", ie the US and Western culture in general, and modern times, and the Wahabi, and a truly ancient desert culture. It's a difficult balancing act.

And, since Bin Ladin was radicalized against the US and the west during Gulf War I, the Saudis have also experienced terrorist attacks. They are also paying big bucks to radical groups while simultaneously posing as an ally to the West. Craig Unger talks about this in "House of Bush, House of Saud."

I don't envy their position. Simultaneously, it's frustrating because Saudi Arabia should probably have been Stop #1 in the War on Terror but we can't touch them - because of their oil but also because of the holiness of Saudi soil.

It's frustrating.

[CJCRANE]

21. Makes you wonder

what the "War on Terror/Tyranny" is really all about, seeing as they seem to have turned a blind eye to these glaring examples...

[dArKeR]

5. Corrupt Coup Leaders

Musharraf's coup

Elections in Pakistan are now threatened

Special report: Pakistan

Leader
Monday June 25, 2001
The Guardian

In perpetrating a second coup against democracy, General Pervez Musharraf may have strengthened his own position but he has done Pakistan no favours. Gen Musharraf's decision to elevate himself from "chief executive", the title he assumed after the 1999 military takeover, to president, had been predicted. But that does not make it any more acceptable. And the timing was inept, coming as his foreign minister, Abdul Sattar, was in Washington trying to persuade a sceptical US administration to show more understanding of his country's problems.

Mr Sattar, who seems to have been badly caught out by the presidential putsch, conducted a similar exercise in London the previous week. Any progress he may have made has now been wrecked by the general's action, which brought sharp rebukes from the US State Department and the Foreign Office. Any chance that Washington would relax its sanctions has been blown, while the Commonwealth must decide whether to expel Pakistan when it meets later this year.

Just as when he overthrew Pakistan's elected prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, Gen Musharraf justifies his latest constitutional violation on grounds of personal duty and the national interest. Some progress has been made since 1999 in tackling corruption and restoring order to the country's indebted economy. Growth this year is estimated at 4% and exports and foreign currency reserves are up. But these advances have come at a high cost, with normal political life suspended, violence in Kashmir increasing again, and Pakistan isolated, especially over its links with Afghanistan's Taliban. Although Gen Musharraf promises to allow parliamentary elections by October next year, he is likely to retain his dominant, still illegitimate position, backed by an unelected security council. Public anger at Mr Sharif's clique has been replaced by a sense of powerlessness.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pakistan/Story/0,2763,511917,00.html

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COUP IN PAKISTAN

JIM LEHRER: That military coup in Pakistan: We start with a report from Robert Moore of Independent Television News filed earlier today.

ROBERT MOORE: No pictures have emerged from Pakistan since news of the military coup first broke, but the latest reports suggest that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is under house arrest. There have been no official announcements from the civilian or from the military leadership tonight, and the television stations have been taken off the air.

SPOKESPERSON: The meeting dispelled the impression...

ROBERT MOORE: In mid-broadcast, a program was interrupted. And tonight, the confusion remains. But the key development was Prime Minister Sharif's attempt to sack this man, General Perveez Musharraf, the head of the army. He was away in Sri Lanka, but appears to have organized the coup, in what appears to have been a highly effective counterattack following his sacking. The crisis was triggered when the military was ordered to pull back Pakistani guerrillas who had crossed into Indian-controlled territory in Kashmir. For many in the army, this was a humiliating setback in the confrontation with India. Developments in Pakistan will be causing alarm throughout South Asia. The army has mobilized not just in the capital, Islamabad, but also in the second city of Karachi, and also in Lahore, Prime Minister Sharif's hometown and power base. Ever since the country followed India and conducted underground nuclear explosions, the stakes have increased enormously. The West now faces a military coup and possible chaos in the world's newest and most volatile nuclear state. In the last few minutes, news has flashed on Pakistani television saying that the Nawaz Sharif government is being dismissed, a sign the coup is now being consolidated.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec99/pakistan_10-12.html

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A beleaguered Pakistan military regime faces mounting criticism

By Vilani Peiris
21 November 2000

Use this version to print

Last month marked one year since General Pervez Musharraf ousted the elected Pakistani government, arrested prime minister Nawaz Sharif and installed his own military regime. Accusing the previous government of corruption and ruining the economy, Musharraf promised to bring economic progress and political stability, eradicate poverty, build investor confidence and restore democracy as quickly as possible.

Twelve months later none of these promises have been fulfilled. The economy is still on a knife-edge and there is growing popular discontent with falling living standards and the lack of basic democratic rights. The regime is under fire not only from the political opposition but also from its supporters in the ruling elites including among the military top brass.

At the end of October, a meeting of key military commanders grilled Musharraf over the record of his administration. According to an Agence France-Presse report: “Political and diplomatic sources said that the commanders discussed plans to appoint a civilian prime minister to deflect public anger from the military, should the situation deteriorate further.”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/nov2000/pak-n21.shtml


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The Strange Case of Mr. Hyde and Dr. Jekyll: General Pervez Musharraf

http://www.pakistan-facts.com/staticpages/index.php/20021121101525217


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In the late ’80s, Pakistan’s then head of state, Benazir Bhutto, told the first President George Bush, “You are creating a Frankenstein.” But the warnings never quite filtered down to the cops and G-men on the streets of New York.

http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/bulletin/EdDesk.nsf/All/3043C0B91612E654CA256AD2000148E5

Can anyone figure out why Bhutto has been crushed in Pakistan? Same as Estrada in PI.

[agincourt]

6. My memory is hazy,

but I think they got her out of power through some electrical power plant privatization scandal. Whether she did anything unusual,compared to other politicians, I don't know, but that's how they got her out of power, I believe.

[dArKeR]

13. In the late ’80s, Pakistan’s then head of state, Benazir Bhutto

told the first President George Bush, “You are creating a Frankenstein.” But the warnings never quite filtered down to the cops and G-men on the streets of New York.

http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/bulletin/EdDesk.nsf/All/3043C0B91612E654CA256AD2000148E5

[sam sarrha]

7. so why is Islam the fastest growing religion... god is good or free rape..

not to to be controversial or rude.. but where is the outrage..?? from a Western point of view i can only conclude that 'An' attraction to islam is freedom to abuse women with impunity, to enjoy being misogynistic as a life style..?? what is with this..? abuse of women happens all the time.. no one squeeks..
they will bury a woman who has an affair to her neck and stone her to death and and the guy goes totally free..??

what is wrong with that picture..??

[Gin]

9. the rape victim's face is uncovered...but the female guards

cover their faces....what the heck is that? Bizarre ....to see female guards in uniform but with their faces veiled.

[rodeodance]

12. It is my understanding that some countries allow women a less

restricted dress--unless they choose to wear the burka. but I do not know Pakistans particular practices. And there is differences from tribe to tribe also.

But yes--the police hats with the Burka really drew my attention.

[okieinpain]

11. exactly, what is wrong here. can someone who practices this

religion explain this shit.

[BikeWriter]

10. Oh, my effin Dog!

The stupidity!

[Colorado Blue]

15. Pakistan Rape Victim's Movement Restricted

MULTAN, Pakistan - A Pakistani woman who was gang-raped on orders from a village council asked the government on Saturday to lift restrictions on her movement.

Mukhtar Mai, 36, said she had suddenly been included without explanation on a government list of people who cannot leave Pakistan.

snip

Mai was raped to punish her family after her brother allegedly had an illicit affair with a woman from another family. Her comments came a day after a court in the eastern city of Lahore ordered the release of 12 men detained in March in connection with her rape.

A total of 14 men were detained in June 2002 after Mai came forward and told of her ordeal. In August 2002, six suspects were sentenced to death and the other eight acquitted. But in March of this year, another court overturned the convictions of five men, and reduced the death sentence of the sixth to life in prison, causing an outcry from domestic and international human rights groups. The man who had his sentence reduced to life in prison will remain jailed despite the latest ruling.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050611/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_rape

[Adelante]

16. This is barbaric, truly horrible

It makes me sick to my stomach.

[roguevalley]

17. Amazing isn't it that this exists anywhere. What century is this?

Male patriarchies have a lot to answer for sometimes.

[spanone]

18. I'm sure Laura 'the politician' Bush is on the case.

She's soo concerned about the women of the Middle East.

[Gyre]

22. Yep, what a surprise!

Our buds in the "war on terra"; the paks, are fucking scum when it comes to women. ChimpCo has probably hired advisors from there to develop the GOPs women's rights platform. Sounds like it's right where they'd like to be.