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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:33 AM
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Democrats fear cover-up in probe of ouster at rally(saga of fake SS agent)
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 08:35 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
the WH won't name the person who said he was Secret Service...gotta protect the posse, I guess.

Salazar, Udall, DeGette, lean on Secret Service

By Ann Imse, Rocky Mountain News
June 10, 2005

Three congressional Democrats used the word "cover-up" Thursday in complaining about lack of results in the Secret Service investigation into the forced removal of three people from a presidential speech in March.

The Secret Service and the White House both know, but refuse to reveal, the identity of the man who looked and acted like a Secret Service agent, and ousted the three from the president's Denver appearance solely because of a "No more blood for oil" bumper sticker.

The Secret Service has said the man was not an agent. The White House says he was a White House volunteer

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"The lack of information from the Secret Service and the White House and their unresponsiveness toward this matter gives the appearance of either disinterest or a cover-up," the three wrote in a letter to Secret Service Director Ralph Basham.


Not a peep in the MSM, but our reps are doing the right thing.

MKJ

edited to add: sorry, only on firts cup of coffee.



http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3844438,00.html


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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:34 AM
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1. BleedingHeartPatriot...please add link
thanks in advance
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:38 AM
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2. done, thanks for the diplomatic reminder
MKJ
:patriot:
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:47 AM
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3. These folks have lawyers right?
If so, they can't let this whither on the vine. Seems no one in our MSM is interested. Maybe the BBC would be...

Perhaps they (or someone like Rep. Conyers) should make FOIA and/or Privacy Act requests for records and/or security tapes. I hope that has already happened.

Maybe the discovery process in a lawsuit is best suited for this kind of issue.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:48 PM
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11. Yes, they have a lawyer who is looking at violations of their first
amendment rights.

You're right, a lawsuit discovery will force disclosure of certain pieces of information that could be unfavorable to the WH and Secret Service. MKJ
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:02 AM
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4. I wonder...
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 09:03 AM by Village Idiot
"The Secret Service has said the man was not an agent. The White House says he was a White House volunteer..."



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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:37 AM
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5. Another Radical Republican Theocrat Thug
No doubt. Existing in the realm of Ultimate Ego Insecurity, and so projecting false authority on everyone else.
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Karla Marx Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:41 PM
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28. I bet it was JimmyJeffGuckertGannon...
...he's the gay G. Gordon Liddy for the new millenium!
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:39 AM
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6. No use FEARING it..it's here!
Now kick its ass!

How about this meme? This is a coverup just like Watergate.

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:48 AM
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7. Some enthusiastic volunteer from Focus on the Family?
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:48 AM
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8. The can out a CIA operative but they can't identify a fake SS agent?
Utter and total bullshit from the party of White Christians.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:51 PM
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13. auburngrad82
Keep in mind, it's how things are framed.

"the party of White Christians" has positive connotations.

Go all out....Use your imagination....Add another descriptive adjective....

The Party of White Christian Extremists
The Party of White Christian Terrorists
The Party of White Diletante Christians

In future, please add that extra defining characteristic.

Thanks in advance.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:09 PM
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29. How about Christo-fascists. n/t
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:52 AM
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9. volunteer?
"he was a White House volunteer" wha??? Like Gannon? This outsourcing has got to stop.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:16 PM
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12. Here's a link with a little more information...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:00 AM
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10. Like they said, he was a secret service agent
The agent was performing a service for Rove, but that's supposed to be a secret.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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14. Democrats fear Secret Service coverup in probe for an ouster at a rally.
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 12:04 AM by LightningFlash
From article
"Democrats fear cover-up in probe of ouster at rally
Salazar, Udall, DeGette, lean on Secret Service

By Ann Imse, Rocky Mountain News
June 10, 2005

Three congressional Democrats used the word "cover-up" Thursday in complaining about lack of results in the Secret Service investigation into the forced removal of three people from a presidential speech in March.

The Secret Service and the White House both know, but refuse to reveal, the identity of the man who looked and acted like a Secret Service agent, and ousted the three from the president's Denver appearance solely because of a "No more blood for oil" bumper sticker. "

"Sen. Ken Salazar and Reps. Mark Udall and Diana DeGette, all of Colorado, months ago demanded and got the Secret Service to launch an investigation into possible charges of impersonation of an agent.

But nearly three months after the incident - and weeks after the agency interviewed witnesses in Denver - they have heard nothing in response.

"The lack of information from the Secret Service and the White House and their unresponsiveness toward this matter gives the appearance of either disinterest or a cover-up," the three wrote in a letter to Secret Service Director Ralph Basham.

The senator and representatives asked for a face-to-face update on the investigation next week.

The three who were ousted - Karen Bauer, Alex Young and Leslie Weise - were members of a Democratic political group. They had done nothing wrong when they were forced out before President Bush arrived. "

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3844438,00.html

Still no conclusions made regarding the men who were claiming to be secret service agents....
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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15. If only they had brought a camera
Always bring a camera at these kind of events. Why didn't they at least get the guy's name (or alias?), ask to see his credentials?
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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20. they should hire a composite artist
A camera is to late at this point but Karen Bauer, Alex Young and Leslie Weise sitting down with a good composite artist and working on their pictures may find the SS imposter(s)
The sketches could be easily posted via the Internet.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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16. Well maybe the Dems will write a letter to President Bush asking for his
co-operation as others have done about other concerns other Dems have had.

"Dear President Bush,


Kindly report to the American people what a bad boy you have been and confess your misdeeds and promise not to do them again.

Respectfully,

Some Dems"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:00 PM
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24. yeah-that letter oughtta do the trick-- (smirk)
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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17. Forget everything else, this is war....Howard Dean take the issue!
Howard, take this issue about the "secret service" and run with it!!! Spineless losers are the only kind of men who coverup the facts about fascism tendancies at rallies.

Especially with members who impersonate secret service thinking they're big and bad.

Hit em hard with it Dean!!!! Everyone mail Howard.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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18. OH NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 01:41 AM by lakeguy
if you try and tell the truth even some of the du loyal will turn on you. that just ain't playin nice! must be a good quiet democrat!!!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:31 AM
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19. Too late, I already drilled home the issue.
:)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:03 AM
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21. kick
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:34 AM
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22. So the president has his own "volunteers" who help with security?
Ever have deja vu?

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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:53 AM
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23. Here's an even better article - this writer tells it straight
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2793636

Lawmakers want in on the Secret By Jim Spencer
Denver Post Columnist

Finally, people with clout have used the right description for the Bush administration's reaction to the so-called Denver Three.

Coverup.

--snip--

Newly disclosed memos prove that only those who agree with the president on privatizing retirement accounts get to speak at Bush's Social Security roadshow, even though it is paid for by taxpayers of all political persuasions.
At a recent forum in New York, Bush actually used the word "propaganda" to describe what he is doing.
All presidents take that approach to policy. But preemptively removing political opponents who have committed no crime nor disrupted an official White House event blurs the line between security and intimidation.
It is unconstitutional.

--snip--
Jim Spencer's column appears Monday, Wednesday and Friday. He can be reached at 303-820-1771 or jspencer@denverpost.com <mailto:jspencer@denverpost.com>

====
Personally, I think Jim Spencer needs to hear from us with our support.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:03 PM
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25. Excellent summary of the seriousness of this issue. Clear 1st amendment
violations.

The worst part is that someone impersonated a Secret Service agent and has been able to get off scot free.

The hardest part to swallow is that our taxes paid for this farce.

MKJ
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:05 PM
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26. i emailed him a big thanks
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:18 PM
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27. Me 2, we need to keep the light shining on this story. n/t
MKJ
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:28 PM
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30. One thing's for sure: this administration is expert at covering up.
God only knows that I hope the patriotic posse is getting organized to powerfully punch the BushCo/neoCON regime in the proverbial nose!!!
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