CSPAN 2 NOW: Senator BYRD on fire!!!

[Melinda]

Introducing amendment re guard and reservists.

He is crying: "HOW LONG BEFORE THEY ARE HOME???"

Must see TV!!!

[Augspies]

1. "No word..., None. HEAR ME SENATORS"

If I believed in Gods I would thank them for this man.

Jeremy

[crissy71]

59. I got the link

I think this is it

http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_speeches/byrd_speeches_2003july/byrd_speeches_2003july_list/byrd_speeches_2003july_list_1.html

[berner59]

2. I love his pages of his speech...

About 24' type... He's screaming "Hear me!!!! Hear me Mr. President!!" He's just so great...

[Emboldened Chimp]

3. They have to PAY for their own food

while awaiting new deployment orders. What utter bullshit!!

[TAH6988]

4. What did he mean by that? N/T

[Emboldened Chimp]

7. I think he meant

that while the NG units wait around to get shifted somewhere else, they have to pay for their own food. He was relaying something a constituent wrote to him about her husband. He didn't elaborate, but I surmise that they're in some kind of limbo where they're not technically deployed, therefore the government doesn't have to supply them with anything. I think this is exclusive to the NG.

[TAH6988]

9. While not deployed, they have to pay

for their own food anyway, unless they are on a meal card. And if they are married, they aren't on a meal card.

[Neutrino]

17. I read the other day that the families lose their Child-credit.

Not sure why that is---but it is.

[TAH6988]

21. I think what

you heard may have been in error. They don't LOSE anything. Some who do not pay income tax, may not get an income tax child tax credit, but I think even that has been rectified.

[Name removed]

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[nostamj]

5. ALL of WV's guard and reserves

are deployed overseas. ALL...

how many other states I wonder???

[Dhalgren]

15. iI know that Ala. has several NG units over there

and a bunch of reserves, too. But ALL the units? I think WV may be being punished for their Senator - if so that sucks so bad there aren't words! "HOW LONG MR. PRESIDENT, HOW LONG!!!???"

[DagmarK]

18. Oh, definitely they chose NG units based on anti-bush states.....

Oregon's had the largest draw on our reservists in history...from the very beginning.

We also got shafted on homeland security money as well.

[lfairban]

6. He is talking about the soldiers that remain in Iraq.

Some have been told they will be there until January 2004, others have been stationed there indefinitely.

What will happen if there is a flood or other catastrophe and the National Guard units are in Iraq? They didn't sign up for a full time war abroad.

[Systematic Chaos]

8. THE FRUSTRATION IS GROWING!

TELL ME, SENATORS! TELL ME MR. RUMSFELD!

and then...

Do you know how many will choose not to reenlist??

Go, Byrd! I love you, man!!!

[theHandpuppet]

14. Great point!

I wonder what Iraqmire will do to re-enlistment numbers... or enlistment numbers, for that matter. The military may soon see a mass exodus.

[DagmarK]

20. Bush has a plan for that.......no problem!

Open our military up to foreigners who will serve and then get US citizenship.

[ianbruce]

11. Thanks for the heads up

It's like great political theatre... unfortunately it's all too real.

[theHandpuppet]

12. Will Byrd's speech be repeated later?

If so, can someone let us know what time that might be?

Thanks!

[nostamj]

16. they aren't as far as I know...

but a full transcript will be up on Byrd's site. usually very quickly.

[Pastiche423]

The transcript for Byrd's July 15 speech

should be up by tomorrow. You can find it and many other of his inspiring speeches here:

http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_newsroom/byrd_newsroom.html

[0007]

13. Byrd was great as he always is

....but the guy that grabbed my heart for today was (D) Tim Johnson of South Dakota. He beat up junior point by point and lie by lie.

[Neutrino]

19. This is it--finally--the Political Perfect Storm.

hang onto your hat, Conde, and your false teeth and wisps of hair,
Rummy! Batten down the hatches! Cause Truth, Justice and the
American Way are back in business!

[Dhalgren]

22. Great thought and I hope it's true!

I see houses flyin' through the air and wicked witches runnin' for the hills!

[Sushi_lover]

24. HIS perfect storm.

He was O so happy at his trifecta.
- at war
- a national emergency
- a recession

I blame him for at LEAST 2 of those 3 things.

It's HIS perfect storm. It's HIS trifecta.

[atreides1]

26. The Only Memeber of Congress that has someone serving in Iraq

Senator Johnson is the only member of Congress that has someone on the ground in Iraq, his son.

Sgt Johnson is assigned to the 101st Airborne Division, and if I remember correctly he's in the infantry.

There are 3 other members of Congress that have family members in the military they are all officers, 2 are in the USAF, and the other is a major in the US Army. But currently they are not stationed in Iraq.

[webtrainer]

Byrd back on . . .

Reading letters from family members of soldiers in Iraq

[webtrainer]

23. One 20 oz. bottle of water per day

Letters are heartbreaking . . . Go Sen. Byrd!

[DagmarK]

25. 20 oz of water a day?????????

OMG, in normal temps, you need 64 ounces to be hydrated.

[webtrainer]

28. So says Byrd's constituent from W. Va . . . 20 oz.

the troops are starving and dying of thirst . . . wants an amendment for nat'l guards/reserves be deployed no longer than 180 days . . . no 2x deployment w/in a year's time.

Nev. Sen. agrees w/Byrd.

Byrd says its like a shooting gallery . . . let them return home!

[Lauren2882]

27. 2004

I hope Byrd campaigns for the Democratic Presidential nominee in West Virginia.

[theHandpuppet]

29. Followed by Stevens and his "HULK" tie

Okay, I just caught the last few moments of Byrd reading the letters, then Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) took the floor. I admit I'm not sure what he was saying, as I was totally distracted by the sinfully ugly and tacky tie he was sporting, with the word "HULK" in huge letters along its length. What the hell is up with that? The guy was supposed to be addressing grave issues and he's wearing a HULK tie and looking like a clown?

[jackstraw45]

30. Article explains tie...

http://www.msnbc.com/local/KTUU/M305494.asp?0LA=abk72

Reporters marvel at Stevens' greenness

Washington, D.C., June 20 - After more than three decades in the Senate, Alaska's Ted Stevens can hardly be called green around the ears. But green is exactly what Stevens wants to be. The senator is celebrating the movie premier and the continued comic book success of his giant green hero: the Incredible Hulk.

(cut)

"I got to wearing it. And one day I wore it when we had a terrible battle on the floor, and we won. And someone asked me how I did it and I said, 'Well, I had the Hulk tie on.' And since then, when we expect a battle I wear the Hulk tie," Stevens said.
A tie that's now legendary.
"When I see the Hulk tie on Ted Stevens, I know he's pumped up. I know he's ready to go, and I know that we're going to win," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said.

(cut)

[moondust]

35. Terminator 3 anyone--for Ahhnold? Exxon? Haliburton? Bechtel?

Why stop with ties? How about:



Stevens is a menace.

[theHandpuppet]

55. That's great, Buzzz!

ROFLMAO! When do the campaign posters come out?

[moondust]

37. Delete.

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[goobergunch]

54. He wore it during the ANWR debate

"'When I see the Hulk tie on Ted Stevens, I know he's pumped up. I know he's ready to go, and I know that we're going to win,' Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said. "

LOL

We won the ANWR issue 52-48.

[northofdenali]

57. Hulk tie is a symbol - for when he's planning to kick ass.

The guy holds a lot of power in the senate (no, I don't like him, either) and wears the tie as a symbol of that power, especially when he's pissed about something.

Please, Sen. Stevens, grow up.

[Trek234]

31. Repub going nuts!

Yelling at Byrd.

[Poll_Blind]

34. They remind me of dogs on the 4th of July! Ape-shit!

PB

[Poll_Blind]

32. Whoa, Byrd and the R-Alaska just got into a shouting match and Byrd won!

Awesome!

PB

[0007]

33. Stevens about to blow a gasket

Byrd pissed this pissant off!

Porky Pig can be understood more clearly than this stuttering fool.

[jab105]

38. This is fun!!

I've never seen this before, wow...

[Cheswick2.0]

39. what is the argument about?????

is stevens saying they should stay there?

Help us poor cube dwellers.

[Trek234]

36. "I don't do as he does" - Byrd referring to crazy repub

"don't point to clinton"

[Nottingham]

40. We Love you Byrdie!

Yes we do! Keep up the good work! :bounce:

[ktranz]

41. I missed it!!!

ugh! I can't believe I missed it. What happended after Sen. Byrd yeild to Stevens? Man I would love to see that, especially when Byrds came out on top.

[0007]

43. Fritz Hollings is going off on a tangent now

Ted Kennedy did a number on the Admin and now Fritz Hollings is shouting his head off about the budget. He's so funny junior should be ashamed of himself.

This is the greatest day in the U.S. Senate I've ever seen. What a bunch of super stars we have today.

[ktranz]

44. Agree!

I'm sorry I was distracted by the cute chick behind him:-)

Yep!! Byrd, Kennedy and Hollings doin us proud today

[0007]

45. So far I'd vote for Tim Johnson from South Dakota

as smacking junior the hardest.

[myrna minx]

51. Welcome to DU ktranz.

:hi: Byrd is always a fun watch.

[lfairban]

42. Related discussion:

U.S. troops shocked by move to keep them in Iraq:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=14917&mesg_id=14917&page=

[0007]

46. Bill Nelson is breaking

the Niger connection down with the CIA like a double barrel shotgun and putting Tenet & junior in a corner and making a fool out of them both for their lies.

What in the fuck are these dems on today?

[jab105]

48. He's my senator:)

Good job today...

[Melinda]

47. Bingo!!! Senator Nelson Calls it!!!!

Argh, I wish I aad been here to write it down, but in a nutshell, he said Congress voted to go to war based on lies the administration told Congress.

Anyone have the real quote?

[eek]

49. Cspan archives the vid, right? Tomorrow?

I just (5:11pm CST) looked at the cspan site but didn't see anything that looked like this.

[jab105]

50. they are taking a vote right now....

I think the "iyes" have it....

bummer...

[Feanorcurufinwe]

52. Can't any Senator introduce a new amendment at any time?

Like for instance right after the last one is tabled?

[goobergunch]

53. Yeas 64 Nays 31...

Byrd Amendment Tabled. :puke:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00277

[goobergunch]

56. The Congressional Record provides transcripts...

http://thomas.loc.gov/r108/r108.html

It will be under "Senate", probably under "DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2004", for July 15...posted tomorrow morning.

[eek]

58. cspan link?

Anyone know if this sound and fury is available to watch yet?
Couldn't figure it out from the Cspan site but then, I'm a nimrod.

Thanks!