NYT: Latin Nations Resist U.S. Plan for Monitor of Democracy

[DeepModem Mom]

Latin Nations Resist Plan for Monitor of Democracy
By JOEL BRINKLEY
Published: June 6, 2005


FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., June 5 - The major nations of Latin America have told the United States that they cannot support an American plan to establish a permanent committee of the Organization of American States that would monitor the exercise of democracy in the hemisphere, Latin American diplomats said Sunday.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who arrived here on Sunday afternoon to serve as chairwoman of an O.A.S. meeting where the American plan is on the agenda, expressed frustration with their view, saying, "We have to have a discussion of how the organization can be effective if it does not have a mechanism that can help at times of crisis."

If the organization fails to approve the American proposal, it would be a significant diplomatic defeat for the United States - from a region that for decades has generally gone along with Washington's requests. The United States is negotiating with the other countries, though diplomats and officials said they made little progress on Sunday.

Last month, senior administration officials said they intended to push for approval of the proposed resolution during the foreign ministers' meeting here, which runs through Monday. But, perhaps anticipating that approval was far from certain, Ms. Rice said to reporters on her plane, "All of the answers are not going to come out of this meeting."

Several ambassadors of Latin American states said last month that they would be unlikely to support the measure because they saw it as a thinly veiled attack on Venezuela, which has been at odds with the United States for several years....


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/06/international/americas/06oas.html

[Jack Rabbit]

1. As well they should, at least right now

After Bush is out of office and safely behind bars, maybe the rest of the world can again take anything America has to say about democracy seriously.

Right now, Venezuela is a superior model of democracy to Bush's America. Meanwhile, Condi will just have to deal with it.

[Cha]

2. Now they're getting smart..

and the US is so involved in spreading "Democracy" in the Middle East that it's a little suspect that they don't want Venezuelans to benefit from it.

[oscar111]

3. bought elections are Fake Democracy, not real democracy

as long as campaign contributions {bribes} control who is a

"serious candidate",

and who can be ignored in tv panels of candidates {the poor candidates},

then elections will just keep putting in the establishment.

that is not democracy, that is bought elections.

GOP'er Bloomberg narrowly beat Mark Green right here in NYC... and spent 3 {or was it five?} times the money. bought election, pure and simple.

Rice is selling fake democracy.

[flordehinojos]

4. more than, "a thinly veiled attack on Venezuela,".IT WOULD BE THE BUSHES

WAY TO CONTROL THE LIFE SUSTAINING OXYGEN ANYONE COUNTRY GETS TO BREATHE FOR THEIR SURVIVAL...and i am not talking environmental issues. i am talking political ones. bush monitoring democracy in the region=if bush doesn't like what any country is doing ... then the country's leader is out on a jet plane to a far away country just like ARISTIDE who found himself being flown in a jet plane out of Haiti and into Africa courtesy of the Bush thugs. Just like he also wants to do to CHAVEZ and to CASTRO.

BE WELL, BE WELL FOREIGN MINISTERS OF FOREIGN NATIONS. RESIST, RESIST THE BUSH/RICE CHATTER...

PUT YOUR BOXING GLOVES AND YOUR EAR PLUGS ON WHEN RICE SAYS SHE HAS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ON HOW THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN STATES CAN FUNCTION IF IT DOES NOT HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE THAT CAN HELP IN TIME OF CRISIS.

BEWARE. BEWARE. BEWARE. HELP WHO? HELP WHO? HELP BUSH IN TIMES OF A BUSH CREATED CRISIS?


BEWARE. BEWARE. BEWARE. Don't let the thunder voice from behind the curtain intimidate you... Don't let the dominatrix flagellate you.

STARWARS IS A BUSH CREATED CRISIS -- STARWARS IS BUSH... THE BUSH AND THE THUNDER BEHIND THE CURTAIN THEY ARE YOUR OXYGEN SNUFFERS, THEY ARE YOUR ENEMIES. BEWARE. BEWARE.

STAND UP FOR YOUR OWN RIGHTS, FOR YOUR OWN SELVES. FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY. FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION. YOUR RIGHT TO DISAGREE AND DISSENT FROM THE BUSH AGENDA.

BE BRAVE DEAR MINISTERS. BE BRAVE. HAVE COURAGE. JUST SAY

NO

What Crisis? --Bush wants to annex your men to help him fight his war!
what crisis?--Bush wants to annex your money to pay for your men to fight his war!
what crisis?Bush wants your soil to find the oil to fight his war.

Indeed, indeed, bush is the man who swallowed the fly, who swallowed the cow, who swallowed the lie, who swallowed your life. Indeed, indeed.

[LynnTheDem]

5. Fucking unbelievable. HEY AMERICA, you're #13 in democracy.

Is it your #1 status in the number of your own citizens sitting in jail?

Is it your #1 status for human rights violations?

Is it your illegal INVASIONS and OCCUPATIONS of nations that haven't been doing anything to anyone?

Just WTF is it bush's America THINKS gives it the right to "MONITOR" other nations' "DEMOCRACY"???

The rest of the world DOESN'T WANT your TORTURE and RAPE and MURDER and GULAGS and your hollow meaningless chants of "justice" and "freedom" and "liberation".

[EdGy]

6. as if the US would allow others to monitor it!!

Imagine Bush and right wingnut reaction if OAS democracy monitors denounced the elections of 2000 and 2004 as rigged -- as they quite clearly were.

These people are such f***ing hypocrites!