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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:43 PM
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U.S. firms said to be named in withheld Bolton documents
Some of the information that the White House has refused to provide to Congress for its review of the nomination of John Bolton includes the names of American companies mentioned in intelligence reports on commerce with China and other countries covered by export restrictions, say government officials who have been briefed on the documents.

It had previously been reported only that the White House was refusing to hand over the names of 19 American persons mentioned in 10 intelligence reports by the National Security Agency.

The fact that the documents also included the names of American companies, and that the subject had to do with possible violations of American export restrictions, provides a new clue as to why the White House might be rebuffing the congressional requests.

The names of the Americans and the companies remain highly classified, but they were provided to Bolton by the National Security Agency in response to special requests he made as under secretary of state for arms control. The Democrats who forced the postponement last week of a vote on Bolton's nomination as ambassador to the United Nations argued that the Senate should insist on access to the same information that was provided to Bolton.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/01/news/bolton.php
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:46 PM
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1. Sounds like Iraqgate circa 1991.
.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:51 PM
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53. No sale. I still say it's names of whistle blowers on WMD's
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:46 PM
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2. Gomer Pyle voice...........
Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Left of Cool
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:48 PM
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3. Now I want them EVEN MORE!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:49 PM
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4. Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner here!
And here is an interesting paragraph in the Bolton story:

Bolton had obtained access to what they described as "American persons identities." But the government officials who described the documents said that term was a blanket term used by the National Security Agency that encompasses the names of American business entities as well.

Which of Bush's corporate pals was dealing with China, or with Saddam?

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:52 PM
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5. The plot thickens .....
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:03 PM
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8. ... and my blood boils...
These guys are going down - it's just a matter of time...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:56 PM
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20. Who is leaking this? hmmmmm
I'm glad they did and hope they open the spigots but makes me wonder.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:52 PM
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34. whoohooo!!! the 1000+ club-DUers take note!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:30 PM
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33. I can't stand it!
I want the names and I want them NOW! Who can get those documents?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:10 PM
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9. Hmmm? Could it be Marvin or Neil Bush?
Funny, we hardly ever hear about these members of the BFEE.


Hmmmm? Could it be?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:52 PM
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52. Noelle Bush probably has a copy with some of her old flake prescriptions
for drugs.

A product of Jeb Bush

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:06 PM
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25. Illegally selling destructive nasties to the wrong people maybe? n/t
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:26 AM
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37. that's easy - Henry Kissinger for one..
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 12:32 AM by phoebe
from a 1997 article

By Timothy W. Maier
Insight Magazine
April 21, 1997

snip

Kissinger and Haig are players in U.S.-China trade. It may be legal, but is it good for America?

Make no mistake about it, they are hired guns for the trade partners of the People's Republic of China. It is their access to Beijing that makes former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and Alexander M. Haig, a retired army general, the favorite gunslingers of U.S. firms vying to tap into the PRC's market.

Kissinger and Haig stand to profit richly from contracts with China that, in some cases, put the United States in a vulnerable position, according to current and former national-security officials. Insight has learned Kissinger personally pockets a percentage of profits generated from deals he develops for American firms, while according to the Philadelphia Inquirer Haig has collected directly from the Chinese at least once as a paid but unregistered adviser - allegedly a felony breach of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, about which neither the Justice Department nor Haig would comment.

Greg Mastel, vice president of the Washington-based Economic Strategy Institute, describes Kissinger and Haig as the "third arm" of China's lobbying movement. "The Chinese Embassy is not very good at hiring public-relations firms," says Mastel. "The P.R. firms have not been very effective for China, so they turn to the business community. It has been a very effective way. Kissinger and Haig have access. They can send the message directly to senior officials. I think Kissinger and Haig believe what they are saying about Beijing, but it is out of date."

Kissinger, a member of the Nixon and Ford administrations, has become the central adviser for the Business Coalition for U.S.-China Trade, a group of approximately 1,000 members that includes Boeing Co., McDonnell Douglas Corp., General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler Corp. The coalition is pushing to make permanent China's favorable trade status to avoid the annual debate over renewal. China critics note that they have yet to see Kissinger and Haig blast the Communist Party for engaging in human-rights violations. Instead the two are battling for "most favored nation," or MFN, trade status, for taxpayer-guaranteed credits at a time when there is a $40 billion trade surplus in China's favor, and for admitting Beijing to the World Trade Organization. Senior U.S. intelligence officials claim this is about personal profit. Take away MFN and there will be fewer deals from which Kissinger and Haig can profit, according to trade and intelligence specialists on both sides of the issue.

(incidentally this was posted on FreeRepublic no less)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a399a0be23d92.htm
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:06 AM
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45. Well, now we know why Nixon went to China.
Money changes everything.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:46 PM
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50. Well, we know Unka Dick was. I suspect Poppy was.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:01 PM
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6. Bushenfurher on the documents today
Now, in terms of the request for documents, I view that as just another stall tactic, another way to delay, another way to not allow Bolton to get an up or down vote.

We have -- we've answered questions after questions after questions; documents were sent to the -- to the intelligence committee; the intelligence committee reviewed the NSA intercept process and confirmed that Bolton did what was right.

And so it's just a stalling tactic. And I would hope that when they get back that they stop stalling and give the man a vote. Just give him a simple up or down vote.

nothing like "people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble"
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:36 PM
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48. these documents belong to my Gestapo and this man is part of my Gestapo
and the Corporate Gestapo is classified...even to duly elected officials on the intelligence committee.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:03 PM
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7. OH my God! Drip, drip, drip.
Someday we'll look back on these days and see clearly that every Bush appointee was intentionally made to hide some devious track.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:25 PM
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13. "Ah'm gonna pick up whar ma daddy lef' off" GWB campaign 2000
:argh:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:11 PM
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10. And anyone who doesn't think capitalism is the new colonialism is insane
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:16 PM
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11. Was Nestle's name excluded? They are a Swiss Corporation.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:17 PM
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12. The twists and turns in this thing are stunning
Just imagine all the crap we don't know about.

Why can't congress subpoena these documents?
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:54 PM
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35. fucking-A: 'all the crap we don't know about' would make us RIOT TONIGHTE!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:28 PM
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14. Bushoilini campaign contributors, no doubt.
I wonder if Bolton was turning the screws to "encourage" more campaign largesse.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:53 AM
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46. What would Bolton have to do with any campaign stuff?
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 09:56 AM by Pirate Smile


"I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."

Those were the words John Bolton yelled as he burst into a Tallahassee library on Saturday, Dec. 9, 2000, where local election workers were recounting ballots cast in Florida's disputed presidential race between George W. Bush and Al Gore.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=2320
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:31 PM
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15. Classified: to keep 'Merican public in dark about Corporate Oligarchy
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:39 PM
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18. That's Murkan! We are Murkans! Living in the land of Murk.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 09:42 PM by Zan_of_Texas
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:31 AM
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39. Love it!
Murk, well said. LOL!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:34 PM
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16. Sounds like this article is disinformation planted to discourage releasing
Edited on Tue May-31-05 09:40 PM by KoKo01
any names. By implying the "hated China" is on the list and other companies it makes it sound like the Bushies are right not to release the names since Bolton was supposedly (accordng to this article) working on WMD.

Also interesting is that they use "officials" plural and say they are both Democratic and Repug "officials." Since we know the Bushies NEVER leak one wonders who these many officials of both parties are.

Another point is that this article was leaked to this odd "online source" from the New York Times before the ususual time of the posting of NYT's articles online. Seems it could be a "disinformation" leak by Rove/Repugs to cover their butt. Steve Clemmons of "Washington Note" doesn't have this info up on his site and he's been the leading person covering Bolton. :shrug:

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:01 PM
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22. But we aren't talking about releasing the information publicly.
Biden said it doesn't even have to be provided to all the members of the Committee.

Well, we know Sen. Rockefeller has already seen the information.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:42 PM
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27. From what I read Rockefeller and Roberts were briefed by an Admin
Edited on Tue May-31-05 10:43 PM by KoKo01
Official on what the content of Bolton's requests but the names were still redacted. Rockefeller wanted to give the info to Lugar's Committee but it seemed Roberts didn't. Got that from Washington Note.
:shrug:

This article says "Officials" plural (Dem and Repug) have said that there were countries & companies that were named and only released "China" as one of the countries. (we know they are pressuring China to revaluate their currency and they aren't cooperating with the Bushies) So, that's why I felt this was stovepiped from Rove to their usual source the NYT's and then leaked to this "Tribune" site early. :shrug:

Who knows what to believe anymore but something about this got my "radar" going... Especially since I've gotten to really distrust most of what appears in the NYT's because of Judith Miller and others there.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:47 PM
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28. I agree. My radar was triggered also. If you look above I asked who
leaked this because that was one of the first questions that popped into my head.

However, I think this will just strengthen the Dems resolve that they need to see the info before they will allow a vote.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:53 PM
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30. I hope you're right about strengthening Dem resolve on this.
I'm going to see if Clemmons has picked up on it yet.

Glad to know I wasn't the only one questioning it, too. Starting to think I'm getting too paranoid questioning every damned thing that comes along.. :D
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:29 PM
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26. Here it is on the NYT website now:
Data Congress Seeks on Bolton Includes Company Names

WASHINGTON, May 31 - The information that the White House has refused to provide to Congress for its review into the nomination of John R. Bolton includes the names of American companies mentioned in intelligence reports on commerce with China and other countries covered by export restrictions, according to government officials who have been briefed on the matter.

It had been reported that the White House was refusing only to hand over the names of 19 individual Americans mentioned in 10 intelligence reports by the National Security Agency.

The names of the individuals and companies, which remain highly classified, were provided to Mr. Bolton by the National Security Agency in response to requests he made as under secretary of state for arms control. The Democrats who forced the postponement last week of a vote on Mr. Bolton's nomination as ambassador to the United Nations argued that the Senate should insist on access to the same information.

But the White House has said Congress has "all the information it needs" to make a decision on the nomination, and at his news conference on Tuesday, President Bush dismissed the request for more information as "just another stall tactic by his opponents in Congress."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/01/politics/01bolton.html?
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:55 PM
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36. OUT THEM NOW!!!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:00 AM
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41. From the NY Times article...
The government officials who described the intelligence reports declined to speak for the record, citing the classified nature of the documents and the extraordinary political sensitivity surrounding them. They would not say what countries other than China might have been the subject of the intelligence reports, but noted that Mr. Bolton's responsibilities also included monitoring efforts to prevent Iran, Libya and other countries from acquiring dangerous weapons.



Iran? Hmmmmmmmm....from Newsweek:


Feb. 16 - Only weeks before Halliburton made headlines by announcing it was pulling out of Iran—a nation George W. Bush has labeled part of the “axis of evil”—the Texas-based oil services firm quietly signed a major new business deal to help develop Tehran’s natural gas fields.

Halliburton’s new Iran contract, moreover, appears to suggest a far closer connection with the country’s hard-line government than the firm has ever acknowledged.

The deal, diplomatic sources tell NEWSWEEK, was signed with an Iranian oil company whose principals include Sirus Naseri, Tehran’s chief international negotiator on matters relating to the country’s hotly-disputed nuclear enrichment program—a project the Bush administration has charged is intended to develop nuclear weapons.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6982444/site/newsweek/



Book 'em, Dano!



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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:36 PM
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17. He's a fucking crony like Cheney & crew.
Fucking leeches! We lose untold amounts of TAXPAYER money everyday to these cockroaches! :mad:

Iraq is their jackpot just like 911 was Bush's trifecta.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:41 PM
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19. International Herald Tribute Americas." Is that a credible site?
Why did NYT's leak this early to them? :shrug:
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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:58 PM
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21. NYT is parent company of IHT
PARIS & NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 21, 2004--The International Herald Tribune (IHT) today reported that its global advertising package with parent newspaper, The New York Times, has delivered $2.4 million in incremental sales for the IHT since the start of 2004, an increase on full-year 2003 revenues of 39%.


http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=NYT&script=460&layout=-6&item_id=583377
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:49 PM
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29. Thanks for info and link on this. I've not seen them linked on DU before
in my long time here, so I was suspicious. Your link verifies that they are okay, but I still think the article is odd. :shrug:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:02 PM
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23. Are you serious? ..........of course it is
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:03 PM
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24. Bolton knows more than the senate does Na Na Na Na!!!
It is amazing that the Senate is so outof the loop!!!

All they do is vote for War's Bush tells them!!!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:02 PM
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31. It makes you wonder
what he did with those names. Was the information used to solicit support??? Hmmmm.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:27 PM
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32. They can't afford for Halliburton to be exposed for what it is. n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:15 AM
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38. It would be plausible that Bolton was investigating these
companies for some kind of illegal arms shipments, thus the need to know. However, wouldn't this be handled by the Justice Department? With "Homeland Security" any sort of bullshit could probably be justified.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:35 AM
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40. Standard Oil, IG Farben Redux
It was good enough for GreatGrandpappy
It was good enough for Grandpappy
It was good enough for Poppy
It's good enough for me.

A truly multigenerational Whoredom.

Gimme that old time Religion.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:26 AM
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42. PSI all over the news in the last few days
Bush makes a statement about PSI yesterday http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-31-2005/0003767025&EDATE=, Condi does too, http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=806765 right after the admin refuses documents and then this, the REASON we aren't releasing documents is because it's secret-secret-secret PSI.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:29 AM
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43. Well now let's see: Halliburton, Bechtel....
Hurry up bastards!
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:46 AM
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44. I have some really poor notes and research re: Taiwan scandal and Bolton
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 08:48 AM by suegeo
From a few years ago, there was a scandal involving a slush fund that was used by Taiwan to influence Bolton and Wolfowitz (sp?)

A Taiwan radio office of Next Magazine reported on the slush fund and was raided or shut down or hassled by the government.

Col. Liu Kuan-chun stole $5.5 million from the fund.

Anyway, Taiwan (President Lee Teng-hui) was using the money to influence AEI, that Bolton doof who was at AEI, and Paul W., the comb licker in the DoD, now at the World Bank, and formerly dean of some school at Johns Hopkins.

A PR firm named Cassidy and Associates was involved, as was Carl Ford Jr. the Assistant Secretary of defence for intelligence and research. And James Kelly, Asst. Sec. of State to East Asia.

My notes are sketchy, from 2002 or 03, and I don't have time to re-research this. It may or may not be helpful to uncovering what the junta is trying to cover up.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:34 AM
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47. Wasn't it Prescott Bush (W's granddaddy) who made
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:43 AM by rateyes
the Bush fortune by dealing with Nazi Germany when it was illegal to do so? Seems I remember reading about it in Michael Moore's book "Dude, Where's My Country?"

Sounds like maybe they're up to their old tricks!
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:58 PM
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49. Neil and Marvin Bush
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 12:59 PM by phoebe
check out CheungKong Holdings, Grace Semiconductor..

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/margie_burns_bushes_get_red_chinese_greenback.htm

snip

Many observers were surprised last week when President Bush came
out in favor of the People's Republic of China against a democratic
referendum in the island of Taiwan.


His weighing in on behalf of mainland China becomes more
questionable at a time when well-connected Chinese companies are funneling large sums of money to Bush's brothers.


News reports reveal that Shanghai-based Grace Semiconductor
Manufacturing, a multi-billion-dollar company co-founded by a son of China's former president, has presidential brother Neil Bush under a $2M contract. With no background in semiconductors, Neil Bush, third brother in the family, got a five-year contract from Grace, involving an annual retainer of $400,000 in stock.


The arrangement is disclosed in court papers in Mr. Bush's divorce. The business press has conjectured that Grace hopes to influence U.S. limits on exporting sensitive technology to China.

read entire article
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V Lee Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:43 PM
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51. And I'll bet there's a correlation between the companies ...

... on the list and the companies that have made big donations to Bush and the Repubs.

A nice contribution in the campaign fund, and the administration looks the other way.


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