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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:54 PM
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Probe: Boy Scouts Lied About Black Members
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050531/ap_on_re_us/boy_scouts_blacks

An independent investigation of the Atlanta-area Boy Scouts found that the organization inflated its number of black Scouts by more than 5,000 in a program for inner-city youth.

The executive director of the Atlanta Boy Scouts resigned after the report was released.

Auditors said Scout officials assigned to inner-city areas may have felt pressure to demonstrate membership growth, which is a part of their performance evaluations. Membership numbers also are used to help determined funding from the United Way, a major Scouts donor.

The audit found that former Scouts too old to participate remained on the memberships lists and that boys who had only attended informational meetings about the program were signed up.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:57 PM
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1. Now THERE'S a provocative headline!
"Honest, sir, We didn't touch! 'Cept Cranston, but he's a little funny that way."
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:00 PM
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2. United Way is "a major Scouts donor"?!?
One more reason not to give United Way anything!
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:34 PM
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7. Yup. I've been refusing to donate to UW since 1992 for this very reason.
n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:49 PM
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10. Not quite -- many United Way organizations stopped funding the Boy Scouts
Edited on Tue May-31-05 02:50 PM by ocelot
because they discriminated against gay kids and scoutmasters. Check your local UW organization. Some haven't contributed to the scouts for years for that reason. Some homophobic freepers I work with have refused to contribute to our employer's UW drive because the UW stopped funding the scouts.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:15 PM
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3. That's a real problem.
Not only do they hate gays, but they're liars.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:20 PM
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4. I thought the Scouts was about honesty and honor
Membership numbers also are used to help determined funding from the United Way, a major Scouts donor.

I stopped giving to the United Way years ago, but still hate to see how their money is stolen from liars inflating their membership.

That's fraud.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:20 PM
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5. Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient,
Edited on Tue May-31-05 02:21 PM by starroute
Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverent.


Nope. Nothing about honest. I guess they're off the hook.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:46 PM
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12. "Do a good turn daily"
and "Be prepared".
I think Trustworthy covers "honest".
I remember when I had to remember the scout laws. I always had trouble with "cheerful". :mad:
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:26 PM
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6. This saddens me so much...
It makes me ashamed to have once been a Scoutmaster of a troop. If we had competent leadership at the national level, we wouldn't be losing members every year. The BSA (and also the Girl Scouts, to an even greater degree)needs to get in line with the times, and make itself relevant to today's youth.

If there is any integrity left in the organization, there'll more resignations(other than Executive Director, who did do the honorable thing)of the people in the Atalanta councils... not holding my breath, though.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:36 PM
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8. Add "LIAR" to their length list
of why I despise this group.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:42 PM
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9. Homophobia, deceit, AND fraud
They're on a roll.

--p!
A very seedy roll, at that.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:22 PM
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11. A couple of Councils have been caught inflating numbers
The Circle 10 council in Dallas was caught pumping up its numbers several years ago. I recall seeing that an Alabama or Mississippi council got caught fudging membership numbers a while back.

Many United Ways have cut off the BSA. Others United Ways have worked out deals where funding is continued based on assurances that the BSA policy would never be enforced. Many BSA leaders are against the stupid policy and would like it changed but are afraid of the reactions of the Mormons if anything official is done. I have met with a couple of the senior executives in my council to discuss this matter.

BTW, there are several gay leaders in the district organization that my son's troop is a part of. No one cares so long as they refrain from using their scout uniform to make a political message.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:34 PM
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13. Gives an entire new meaning to "Scout's Honor", doesn't it?
Edited on Tue May-31-05 06:40 PM by David Zephyr
Someone should go to prison over this as it was intentional fraud for public monies that could have, should have gone else where.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:58 PM
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14. I wouldn't let my son be a Boy Scout
Too narrow minded, just too "Red State" for me. I;m not saying there are no benefits but I was a Girl Scout leader and the Girl Scouts are a much more open minded organization. I had a very diverse troop ethnically and religiously and the organization has no sexual orientation issues.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:11 PM
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15. Ollie and man Ann have fundraiser rs there.
Guess there is no honor among thieves.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:48 AM
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16. kick
:kick:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:52 AM
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17. And don't forget a few months back
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 09:53 AM by Horse with no Name
The President of the Boy Scouts (or whatever they call him) was arrested on child pornography charges.


Edited to add link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7326932/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:39 PM
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18. This could be related to their new merit badge in Tanning Salon Management
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