Cheney "offended" by Amnesty Guantanamo Gulag claim

[maddezmom]

hour, 58 minutes ago



WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Vice President Dick Cheney said in an interview that he was "offended" by Amnesty International's comparison of the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay with the Soviet Gulag.

Cheney, in an interview with CNN's "Larry King Live," also said that stories about desecration of the Islamic holy book the Koran at the US "war on terror" prison in Cuba were mostly groundless and were being spread "to try to discredit the United States."

"Frankly, I was offended by it," Cheney said when asked about Amnesty's description of Guantanamo, where hundreds of foreign terror suspects have been held without charge, as the "Gulag of our times."

"I think the fact of the matter is the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world," Cheney said.

~snip~
more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050530/pl_afp/usattacksguantanamo_050530173045

stories about desecration of the Islamic holy book the Koran at the US "war on terror" prison in Cuba were mostly groundless and were being spread "to try to discredit the United States :puke:

[MadisonProgressive]

1. What a piece of shit-for-brains asshole DICKhead is!

[rodeodance]

12. nothing surprizing in what he is saying. it is just dicky being a dick

[Carla in Ca]

111. Amen!

Would You Buy A Used Car From Dick Cheney?

"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."
--Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, March 16, 2003

"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency..."
--Dick Cheney, yesterday on Larry King

[Rebellious Republican]

2. Hey Dick, in rememberance of Senator Leahy........

and in your own words " Go Fuck yourself "!!!!

[Jack Rabbit]

3. Segregationist southern governors were offeded by civil rights

You're a war crimnal, Dickie. Deal with it.

Oh, yes: and go fuck yourself.

[saigon68]

61. He's one of the SLEEZIEST of the Bush Criminals

[annabanana]

4. Cheney "offends" me every time he opens his mouth...eom

[hiley]

5. Cheney can kiss my ass

We are offended by his evil ! Below are a few things that fucking offend me , Dick.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3742495#top
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0505/S00295.htm
http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor/specials/uranium/
http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/nucs2004.htm
http://www.turnerhome.org/jct/Clips/0228-nyt.htm
"This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed … were not, as some assumed,inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees."
Rudolf Hoess,
the SS commandant at Auschwitz.

One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and torture rooms and rape rooms."—Bush, press availability in Monterrey,
Mexico, Jan. 12, 2004

New Yorker http://www.newyorker.com/online/slideshows/pop/?040510onslpo_prison

[indepat]

6. With both VP Cheney and Gen. Myers being so offended, AI must have gotten

it all wrong.

[stellanoir]

7. yeah

well I'm personally offended by his greed, his cowardice, his complicity and duplicity, and by how he's irrevocably tarnished our image by his war mongering and profiteering, and how his short sightedness has relentlessly put profits over ethical or humanitarian concerns.

He will go down in history as the heinous villain that he truly is.

[ninkasi]

56. Excellent observation

I agree with you 100%. He's just mad that the information has been made public, even if it has been a little bit at a time.

[LaPera]

8. Lying fucking pig...Liar! Man, Cheney's a disgusting lying pig!

Who's he lying to? The idiot dumb faithful 40% -- who want with all their heart to believe they voted for the correct god fearing liars.

Sick, stupid, dumb fucking racist, sexist, homophobic... again, dumb hicks (and others)!

[IndianaGreen]

9. Hitler's henchmen were also offended we treated them as criminals

They thought they did nothing wrong in murdering millions of subhumans, and besides, they were following orders.

American Presidents of both parties have applauded Amnesty International when it has pointed the finger at those that displeased us, and have condemned AI when it has pointed the finger in our direction, or at the direction of the thugs we favored.

Rumsfeld is following the same old script. The shame is that the MSM is giving credence to this cretin!

[Patchuli]

10. Stinkin' Hypocrite!

I'd like to see him "offended" right behind bars! War criminal!

[kliljedahl]

42. How's this for a hypocritic quote?

"I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.
"And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties. And while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war.
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq." Dick Cheney, 1992


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Cugel the Clever]

85. Cheney really is "offended" by reports

I love the quote from '92- an astounding hypocrisy and also the approximate truth about why the elder Bush didn't "finish the job" the first time around. Cheney probably supported a more aggressive policy in '91, but lost the debate to Powell and thus had to publicly support the pullout of US forces. Cheney was only pretending to support a "done deal" administration decision.

In 2000, when Cheney came to real power, he was able to make his long time dreams come true. He got his war! All of that power must be intoxicating, but just like a drug, it leaves you wanting more. You see only what you don't have, rather than cherishing what you do.

How dare Amnesty International investigate and report on prisoner treatment at US bases? Who do they think they are trying to find out about stuff we stamp "Top Secret"?

Cheney is "offended" by these truthful reports- he is "hurt and upset". So am I! The (vice)President is truly offended that these punks think they can criticize his Royalty and I am offended at every beat of his cranky heart.

[thecai]

11. American Jails and Prisons Are Worse Than Guantanamo

Reports, complaints, and grievances are ignored so the abuse continues to worsen. Then Dick Cheney gets offended when the reports are made public. Boo-Hoo.
Americans are offended by the U.S. Gulag jails and prisons.

[Julius Civitatus]

16. American prisons are some of the WORST in the industrialized world

and international organizations (Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International) have been monitoring and harshly criticizing the US for many years for this problem. It seems like most Americans are not aware of this fact, and live their lives unaware of the horrors taking place here. Among other things:

• The US has the largest percentage of its population in prison (2 million people) or through the justice system of all industrialized countries (except for Russia)
  
  
• The US has the least hygienic, most dangerous prisons of all industrialized nations (except for Russia)
  
  
• The US has the largest number of non-violent (drug-related) convicts imprisoned of all civilized nation (except for Russia). Non-violent convicts are usually thrown to the mix with highly violent, highly dangerous prisoners. The results are disastrous for society.

I guess our motto must be "hey! We are not as bad as Russia!"

If you have the guts or the stomach for it, read the Human Rights Watch report on the horrors of the American prison system:

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html

[thecai]

28. Absolutely!

Thank you for posting that, Julius. I have some of that info and links on my webpages. Privatized prisons ("slave-factories") are also some of the worst. BOYCOTT CCA (NYSE:CXW).
If only more Americans knew the truth, perhaps the problem could be eliminated or redressed. Over 20,000 Americans are wrongfully convicted each year in the U.S., so it could happen to anyone, but by then it's "too late".

[Julius Civitatus]

46. Furthermore: thousands of Americans are imprisoned for non-violent crimes

Basically, since the 1980s we have become a nation that "pretends" to be "tough on crime" by throwing people in jail and throwing away the key, even for small infractions and non-violent crime. Politicians are afraid to offer rational solutions because they could be labeled "soft on crime."

In the meantime, we keep treating problems that could be addressed with therapy, counsel or even medical treatment by throwing people in jail. Recently the very professional reporters of "Frontline" in PBS reported how many US prisons are becoming the new asylums: lots of people that should be treated in hospitals for mental disorders are thrown in jail, where they are further abused and traumatized by violent felons. The system is a mess, and it's part of the legacy of the Reagan administration.

A great majority of people in American prisons are non-violent offenders, convicted by using the Reagan-era, draconian anti-drug laws. These laws require mandatory minimum sentences that lock people away for many years on non-violent, drug-related offenses. These are usually young, non-violent kids that are thrown in prisons with ultra-violent murderers and rapists, and become victims of rape and violence for the length of their convictions.

Some crimes that other civilized countries handle in more civilized ways, here we pretend to solve by simply locking people away. Some states have monstrous "three strikes" laws that lock people for life for three offenses, even if they are three minor offenses.

Over 2 million Americans are in prison and nearly 6 million are within the judicial system (parolees, etc). Over 20,000 people are wrongly convicted every year.

When we live in a country that throws people in jail with such ease, and never minds the further brutalization that its youth is experiencing by the system... how can we be surprised about Abu Grahib? How can we act surprised at Guantanamo?

[thecai]

107. Excellent Info and Post, Julius!

You just explained what I've been ranting about for years.
The Reagan era introduced privatized prisons, where many politicians invested in stock, with the guarantee the slave-factories will be filled beyond capacity by the "tough on crime" and mandatory sentencing laws.
Now state dept. of corrections are leasing inmates to privatized prisons, for additional profit, (in addition to the tens of thousands per inmate, per year of tax-dollars).
It's a huge, profitable industry, but privatized prisons violate employment contracts, neglect/deprive and abuse inmates more frequently, etc., because those prisons are not regulated by the laws that apply to state prisons and institutions.
"Rehabilitation" is inneffective and is merely a sales-pitch to justify the need for more funding. In actuality, ineffective rehab contributes to recidivism.

[dchill]

13. The fact of the matter...

"the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom"

Yeah, but that's so last millenium.

[0007]

14. The blood Cheney has on his hands could paint the Golden Gate

Bridge. . . . and he's offended?

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. All the liars are out this weekend

proclaiming their innocence and acting all offended that anyone would dare even think they would mistreat prisoners. Seems they're getting a wee bit nervous about the whole thing?

[Bluzmann57]

17. Well of course he's offended by it

But it doesn't change the facts. Fuck off cheney.

[angryxyouth]

Watch, this is going to be all over the msm.

Poor Dick's face looking so hurt while a sympathetic anchor tells his story. Meanwhile, his crimes against humanity go unreported. FUUUUUUCKK
YOOU!!!!!

[hiley]

18. Monday, May 30, 2005

briefs:

‘US troops in Afghanistan desecrated Quran’

BAJAUR: A former Guantanamo Bay prisoner released here on Saturday said the US troops desecrated the Holy Quran in detention centres in Afghanistan. Badshah Khan, who spent four years at the Guantanamo Bay detention centre, told Daily Times that he went to Afghanistan for employment but was arrested by the Northern Alliance which after keeping him in prison for four months, handed him over to the US troops. Mr Khan said that he was shifted to a detention centre in Kandahar where he was kept in a small room. “The US troops stripped me naked and took photos of my body. They also tore up a copy of the Holy Quran,” he said. staff report

snip---
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_30-5-2005_pg10_1

AP - Fri May 27,12:51 PM ET
Iraqis holding a giant representation of Islam's holy book Quran burn British, Israeli and U.S. flags as they demonstrate against the alleged mishandling of the Quran by American military personnel at a U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, which U.S. authorities have denied, in the southern town of Basra in Iraq Friday, May 27, 2005. (AP Photo/Nabil al-Jurani)

[rocktivity]

19. Rocknation "offended" by Cheney WMD claim

:headbang:
rocknation

[hiley]

20. Amnesty Petition about Torture

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3745855
please sign if you have not already and pass it on..

[stlsaxman]

26. Isn't Amnesty bringing war crimes charges against this admin to The Hague?

Thought I heard it on BBC World Service... or is this exactly what Cheney is referring to?

[hiley]

38. The other day Amnesty said US setting up latter-day Gulag

Amnesty International Wants U.S. Officials Arrested and Investigated

By Bob Dart

05/26/05 "Cox News" - - WASHINGTON - Amnesty International USA urged foreign governments Wednesday to use international law to investigate Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and other alleged American "architects of torture" at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay and other prisons where detainees suspected of ties to terrorist groups have been interrogated.

snip--
Watch this short clip or download it to watch.
http://snipurl.com/f70k

US terror laws 'creating a new generation of the disappeared'
By Kim Sengupta and Anne Penketh
26 May 2005
The United States is condoning torture and abuse in the name of the
war on terror, setting up a latter-day Gulag and creating a new generation of the "disappeared", according to Amnesty International.
snip--
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=641433

Amnesty: U.S. leads global human rights violations

By Aljazeera

05/25/05 - - Human rights watchdog Amnesty International accused the United States of violating human rights, ignoring international law and sending a "permissive signal to abusive governments".

"When the most powerful country in the world thumbs its nose at the rule of law and human rights, it grants a license to others to commit abuse with impunity and audacity," the rights group said in its annual report.

Amnesty also slammed the Bush administration and the U.S. Congress for failing to call for a complete and independent probe into abuses against prisoners in U.S. custody in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.

"During his first term in office, the U.S. proved to be far from the global human rights champion it proclaimed itself to be," the report said, citing Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

snip--
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8950.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/25_05_05_amnestyintro.pdf

Convoy of Death

Why have US television stations refused to broadcast this documentary?

In Afghanistan, filmmaker Jamie Doran has uncovered evidence of a massacre: Taliban prisoners of war suffocated in containers, shot in the desert under the watch of American troops.

The film has been broadcast on national television in countries all over the world and has been screened by the European parliament. Human rights lawyers are calling for investigation into whether U.S. forces are guilty of war crimes. But no U.S. media outlet has broadcast the film.

snip---
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3267.htm

Right now Cheney is pissed saying military did not flush the Quran.

[Vyan]

110. It's more than that...

Amnesty said that Universal Juridiction applied to Human Rights Violations, and that many nations in the world have jurisdiction to investigate, arrest and prosecute senior U.S. Officials, including Rumsfeld, Gonzales and Bush, in the same way that Chilien Dictator Augusto Pinoche was arrested and tried in London.

I have a summary and link to the video of that AI statement posted here.

Vyan
http://vyan.blogspot.com

[struggle4progress]

21. "...In 1973 AI published its first report on torture. It found that:

'torture thrives on secrecy and impunity. Torture rears its head when the legal barriers against it are barred. Torture feeds on discrimination and fear. Torture gains ground when official condemnation of it is less than absolute.' The pictures of detainees in US custody in Abu Ghraib, Iraq, show that what was true 30 years ago remains true today.

Despite the near-universal outrage generated by the photographs coming out of Abu Ghraib, and the evidence suggesting that such practices are being applied to other prisoners held by the USA in Afghanistan, Guantánamo and elsewhere, neither the US administration nor the US Congress has called for a full and independent investigation.

Instead, the US government has gone to great lengths to restrict the application of the Geneva Conventions and to 're-define' torture. It has sought to justify the use of coercive interrogation techniques, the practice of holding 'ghost detainees' (people in unacknowledged incommunicado detention) and the 'rendering' or handing over of prisoners to third countries known to practise torture. The detention facility at Guantánamo Bay has become the gulag of our times, entrenching the practice of arbitrary and indefinite detention in violation of international law. Trials by military commissions have made a mockery of justice and due process.

The USA, as the unrivalled political, military and economic hyper-power, sets the tone for governmental behaviour worldwide. When the most powerful country in the world thumbs its nose at the rule of law and human rights, it grants a licence to others to commit abuse with impunity and audacity. From Israel to Uzbekistan, Egypt to Nepal, governments have openly defied human rights and international humanitarian law in the name of national security and 'counter-terrorism'..."

Report 2005 - Foreword
http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGPOL100052005

Yer a stinkin sewer-rat, Dick ...

[Gman]

22. Cheney is very good

He's VERY good:

The fact that he's "offended" doesn't confirm or deny anything. Secondly, he says the claims about Koran desecration were mostly groundless. Again, as good as an admission that it did happen. Then, Cheney changes the subject to the tried and very true distracting rabbit trail of, "We're advancing freedom and liberty" argument: "Just in this administration, we've liberated 50 million people from the Taliban in Afghanistan and from Saddam Hussein in Iraq, two terribly oppressive regimes that slaughtered hundreds of thousands of their own people."

The rest of the article revolves around discrediting everyone that says anything about this "administration" they don't agree with or like.

Whether or not you like Cheney, you've got to admit he is very, very good at what he does.

Know your enemy and appreciate his ways.

[Warren Stupidity]

24. its an accounting problem

on one side you have a bunch of people tortured, killed, held indefinitely without charges or any hope of release.

On the other side you have the freemon-n-moxy we have brought to them a-rabs in ganistan and a-rack. See you just add them up and see which one is bigger. 25 million inf freemon-n-moxy vs. a few thousand tortured and tossed into the gulag. No problem. Stop yer bitchin.

[tavalon]

60. Indeed

As well, an even more important point to be cognizant of is that while * is the figurehead President to be trotted out for the masses, the true President is Cheney. * isn't even allowed to be around for the important decisions.

[JohnyCanuck]

23. I am offended too,

- every time I see his porcine features staring at me from the TV news or from a newspaper or magazine article

If you haven't seen it yet, check out the episode from the CBC program Fifth Estate on the Dickster's end run around Uncle Sam's sanctions by setting up dummy off shore shell companies to help sell embargoed items to Iraq, Iran and Libya while he was head of Halliburton, not to mention his conflicts of interest and war profiteering from Halliburton's Iraq reconstruction contracts that will help up drive up the price of his stock options.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/dickcheney/

Click on this link to select Windows Media Player or Quick Time and view the program "The unathorized biograpy of Dick Cheney."

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/video_player.html?cheney

[confuddled]

103. I, too, am offended by U.S. policy and behavior. n/t

[cornermouse]

25. Attempting to formulate a political correctness policy

At least, that's my take on it.

[MasonJar]

27. Offended and offensive!

[RedSock]

29. wearing a "STAFF" hat at auschwitz

offended the world, you shitstain.

[bpilgrim]

37. here the Cheney play'n dress-up - since he NEVER served ---------> IMAGE

http://images.globalfreepress.com

peace

[bennywhale]

30. What an arrogant prick. The USA single handedly invented the fucking sun

according to him. Did more to advance freedom in the 20Century?

Jesus he's from the "Ministry of Truth"

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

What a heap of shit.

[emanymton]

31. "Mostly Groundless?" = True.

Offended by what? The story getting out?

"... to try to discredit the United States"!? I too am offended. The pikers who break the news are rookies at discrediting the USA compared to the junta of shrub and co.

Does one need to point out how Cheney has conducted a war of aggression without getting offended? Send them to the HAAG.


Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered!

[killbotfactory]

32. what an evil piece of shit

he can go fuck himself

[oxbow]

33. Larry King is a softheaded brownosed twit

They must be in damage control if they decided to have Dick go on his show. Cheney "being offended" by torture claims is the same thing as John McCain "not agreeing" with the Downing street Memo; it has absolutely nothing to do with anything

btw-My family of 4 signed the AI petition against torture, and I urge everyone else to do so

[Roland99]

34. What's that phrase *Dick*? Oh yeah..."Go FUCK Yourself!"

[steve2470]

35. his existence offends me nt

[bpilgrim]

36. go fuck YOURSELF!

http://news.globalfreepress.com

the WHOLE world is WATCHING you and your criminal regime.

peace

[sniffa]

39. joseph goebbeLs? is that you?

[applegrove]

40. But what does that have to do with you Cheney? Nothing. That

was Roosevelt.

[muchacho]

41. full quote

"I'm totally offended somebody would actually question our medieval practice of torture in service to the Empire."

[Zerex71]

43. Dickhead doesn't know what offended is.

I'd like to see him get offended with a chemical light up his ass, see how offended he is then.

[Bok_Tukalo]

44. What bothers me is when they take credit for previous American leadership

actions. Like somehow questioning them is questioning the fight against fascism and the Soviet Union.

The seriously are into the monarchist philosophy where they consider themselves the State.


"I think the fact of the matter is the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century ... "

[maddezmom]

45. NYT's : Cheney Says Ex-Prisoners Are 'Peddling Lies' About U.S. Treatment

By BRIAN KNOWLTON
International Herald Tribune
Published: May 30, 2005
WASHINGTON, May 30 - Vice President Dick Cheney emphatically defended the handling of detainees at Guantánamo Bay in an interview to be broadcast tonight, saying that they had been "well treated, treated humanely and decently" and that some accusations to the contrary were "lies."

The vice president largely dismissed assertions that guards or interrogators at the American naval base in Cuba had mishandled the Koran or beaten detainees. He said that freed Guantánamo prisoners were now "peddling lies."

Mr. Cheney's remarks, made in a weekend interview taped for tonight's broadcast of the CNN program "Larry King Live," represented one of the more unconditional administration defenses of American activities at Guantánamo.

~snip~
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/30/politics/30cnd-cheney.html?hp&ex=1117512000&en=d5e90884bb91cffa&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[6000eliot]

47. So, they're just going to try to lie their way out of this.

Fuck them and anyone who believes them!

[FlyByNight]

48. Apparently, the 'abuse'/torture at...

one of Saddam Hussein's former prisons by US troops wasn't enough to 'offend' him before? Or Guantanamo Bay? 'Renditioning' of suspects to undemocratic terror states for torture? Sickening.

Go to Hell, Dick. You're a monster.

[acmejack]

49. Dick is appropriately named

Cheney is indeed a DICK. I could go on, but the subject appears to have been well explored here!

[Hailtothechimp]

50. Suck it up, Dick.

You made the mess, and now you have to live with it.

[sintax]

51. Hmm Who Does Dick Remind Me Of?

“An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”

Adolf Hitler, proposing creation of the Gestapo for "homeland security" in Nazi Germany.

“Homeland security is not a temporary measure for the current crisis, but will become permanent in American life. I think of it as the normalcy.”

Dick Cheney on 10/25/01.

[malaise]

52. Are you watching that liar on Larry King

He's on now.

[Clarkie1]

53. Cheney shit on everything America stands for today.

"For Amnesty International to suggest that somehow the United States is a violator of human rights, I frankly just don't take them seriously."

This is the nature of fascism...absolutely no questioning of the absolute good and infallibility of the state. Dissent, in other words, cannot be taken seriously.

The crap Cheney spewed out of his mouth today has provoked a visceral anger in my unlike anything I have ever felt towards this administration and it's Un-American policies and rhetoric. The fact that he spewed it on a day when we honor those who have died for the principles of freedom and dissent America stands for makes it particularly repugnant.

:grr:

[Doohickie]

54. US Vice President Dick Cheney said in that he was "offendended"...

Good! He should be.

[AuntiBush]

55. Gee! Imagine how the DETAINEES feel!

Frankly, he offends all of us! At least 1/2 of us "get it!"

[Dukkha]

57. Sounds like a case of Truth Hurts syndrome

Cheney is the most vile, immoral, disgusting piece of human filth to come along in a long, long time.

Amnesty International is one of the finest groups. That fat scumbag is not even worthy to mention their name. I dearly hope he is jailed for his war crimes and thrown in a prison where he will be crying for help from AI. May you rot in Hell where you belong. You are the enemy of freedom.

[The_Casual_Observer]

58. "Frankly, I was offended by it,"

Tough smart talk, I'm impressed by the snappy sharp tones of this guy, aren't you? Note that he doesn't deny anything, he's just offended that somebody would have the nerve to say it.

[IndianaGreen]

59. Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says (Larry King interview)

There you have it, the war will be over by the time Bush leaves office, says Cheney!

Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says
Tuesday, May 31, 2005 Posted: 0409 GMT (1209 HKT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The insurgency in Iraq is "in the last throes," Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday, and he predicted the fighting would end before the Bush administration leaves office.

In a wide-ranging interview on CNN's "Larry King Live," Cheney cited the recent push by Iraqi forces to crack down on insurgent activity in Baghdad and reports that the most-wanted terrorist leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, had been wounded.

The vice president said he expected the war would end during President Bush's second term, which ends in 2009.

"I think we may well have some kind of presence there over a period of time," Cheney said. "The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.iraq/index.html

[cboy4]

62. Big DICK Cheney, if it's any consolation,

will rot in hell for orchestrating this outrageous war as well as his arrogant disregard for all of the killing. How sad.

[complain jane]

63. You mean that loser who's never felt the inside of a uniform?

That disgusting sloth.

[sui generis]

64. I'm offended by that lying piece of shit

from a purely intellectual point of view though, gotta love the evil empire for being so purely blackhearted evil. If you made up a villain like this in a creative writing exercise he wouldn't pass plausibility, and here we have our very own Gollum installed as vice president.

He sucked as a CEO and sucks even more as a VP.

[Jara sang]

65. Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.iraq/index.html

The insurgency in Iraq is in its last throes, Vice President Dick Cheney says, and he predicts the war will end during President Bush's second term, which ends in 2009. "The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline," Cheney told CNN's "Larry King Live. "I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."

[wtmusic]

66. Mission Accomplished

was I first? was I first?

[Cha]

67. And we do know

that cheney lies like the Devil..so this coming from him is worth how much?

[wakeme2008]

68. 76 troops dead this month up from last month

Would you repeat what you said again Dickie.

[UpInArms]

69. LOL!

:rofl:

This POS has credibility?????

:rofl:

The snarling sneering bunker-hiding thing that had "other priorities" war-mongering lying sack of bat/rat feces has the gall to crawl out of its lair and lie again?

:rofl:

[Renew Deal]

70. It was in its last throes in January

and November, and last year May and don't forget Mission Accomplished.

[Atman]

71. My take on this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3755269

[still_one]

72. look at the source, CNN, no credibility

[Renew Deal]

73. The source is Cheney.

Forget about CNN.

[still_one]

81. forget about both of them, they both lie and distort

[0007]

74. CNN should be ashamed of their selves for running such a

bullshit article.

[Atman]

75. CNN is only ashamed when they MISS an opportunity

to felate the Boy King and/or his puppet-master.

[Roland99]

80. What's the definition of insanity? Everyone in this administration

WTF are they smoking?!?!?


Do they think they're hypnotists and the American public is all a captive audience?


They're fucking INSANE!


And Lynn Cheney saying Mrs. Stepford should run for President in 2008?? The only thing Pickles is good at running is stop signs!

[rainy]

82. Another sound bite, and lie, put out by Cheney, who kept doing

this before and during the war. Soon the media will forget we are even at war and all will think all is well in Iraq and the Repubs will be able to spin it for the next election.

[jhain]

76. I just woke up my kids...

when I screamed F*CKING ASSHOLE" at the moniter.

Go, Mom....( not my best parenting moment.)

Puh.

When will this shit ever end???????

[Triana]

77. I'm Frankly OFFENDED by Tricky Dick II

Murdering, lying bastard. He's offended by a situation HE ordered and helped cause?

Well. How endearing. :sarcasm:

[Plaid Adder]

78. Oh, it SO hurts me to hear that Amnesty International hurt Dick's feelings

I feel just as outraged as I did when Kerry hurt Lynne's feelings by mentioning their lesbian daughter.

Jesus Christ. Well, Dick, I bet Amnesty International would be willing to take that back if you would be willing to stand on a box with a hood on your head and electrodes wired to your genitals for 48 hours. Deal?

:banghead:

The Plaid Adder

[msanthrope]

79. Gulag? I thought you at least had a trial before

you went to the gulag. A sham one, but one nonetheless. You knew the charges against you.

Bad Amnesty (sarcasm).

[dbonds]

83. He can't help being a dick.

Poor little thing was offended. He lies, rapes the country, thousands die, steals elections, ... and he is offended that someone calls him on it - FU DICK.

[Vyan]

84. Amnesty International Struck a Nerve!

And that's a good thing, the next step is to counter Cheney's FUD with facts. AI has credible evidence of American Human Rights abuses which have occred on in three countries and clearly under Administration direction, started with the Gonzales/Bybee "Torture" Memos.

Donald Rumsfeld has been sued by the ACLU and indicted by the German government, AI has Called for further investigations - by foreign nations if neccesary - indictments, arrests and prosecution of senior U.S. Officials.

Amazingly, Cheney wasn't on their list.

Vyan
http://vyan.blogspot.com

[osaMABUSh]

86. This admin is the "Mother of all smoke screens"

How convenient - we'll be out by the next Pres. election. Let's recap: Bush starts a war so he can be a president during 'wartime' thus assuring himself of re-election then he ends a war so his successor can keep the 'peace' and win election in '08.

As George Galloway said this is the Mother of all smoke screens.

[ClintonTyree]

87. That makes us even, Dick.....

you offend the shit out of me. :grr: What a lying sack of shit, he and pretzel boy. None of it EVER happened...it's just those mean old, "enemy combatants", that are lying about all of the abuse. Never mind all of the evidence to the contrary, the people you tortured and killed by executive order. You've opened the door for ANY American military prisoner of war to receive the SAME treatment, you assholes! When it happens, not if, but when, the blood of those Americans will be on your hands too. Fucking swine, "I'm offended". Well la, di fucking da! bush and cheney offend the fucking shit out of me too! :grr:

[wryter2000]

88. Yeah, well...I'm offended by Cheney's existence on the planet n/t

n/t

[Nostradamus]

89. Meet Adolf Hitler - vegetarian, loves children, fond of animals

[malmapus]

90. "I think the fact of the matter is the United States has ...

done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world," Cheney said.


So see the world owes us to opress a religion, people and country or two!!! Sheesh!

[Lindacooks]

91. "MOSTLY groundless"????

So in other words, the Koran WAS desecrated at Guantanamo.

[silverweb]

92. Here's to you, DickDick...

It's what I was trying to link yesterday and couldn't quite figure out at the time -- one of the best representations of the vile freak I've seen yet:

[Democracy White]

93. Ick...

and my mom likes him?

Please, I'm offended by everything about him.
Good for Amnesty International to show him and this ASSministration up. This war is nothing but another version of Vietnam. Iraqinam is what I call it.

Dee

[okieinpain]

94. I like how they attach themselves to anything good done by some

one else. I don't think the report was talking about the united states history, just gitmo and the bush war on terror.

[hyphenate]

95. Heh

"I think the fact of the matter is the United States has done more to advance the cause of freedom, has liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world," Cheney said"


As long as their white men, Dickhead, yeah, sure.

[Vyan]

109. Yeah, but that was during the 20TH Century...

just what have you done for us lately - Dickey?

Vyan

[Voltaire99]

96. The liberation math of Richard Cheney

"...liberated more people from tyranny over the course of the 20th century and up to the present day than any other nation in the history of the world."

I wonder if he is including the ashes at Tokyo, Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki in his math.

Or the Everest of civilian corpses in the Philippines and Vietnam.

It's not a given that he isn't. To our imperial apologists, every corpse created by American munitions is "liberated," and every drop of blood tops up the chalice of Great Deeds.

[rhosgobel]

97. Full transcript

The complete transcript of Cheney's Larry King Live interview can be found at:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0505/30/lkl.01.html

I've excerpted some of the relevant portions (and briefly summarized Cheney's arguments) here:

http://rhosgobel.blogspot.com/2005/05/cheney-responds-to-amnesty.html

[Brooklyn Michael]

98. World "offended" by Cheney

Bottom line, if any party - Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, Marxists, the John Birch Society - said that their shit didn't stink and everything they did was the noblest of causes, I'd immediately think they were full of it up to their eyeballs.

[angryxyouth]

99. Does anybody know how much Halliburton

makes or overcharges on coffins and body bags?

[NightOwwl]

100. Frankly, I'm offended every time hear the lies...

spewing from your mouth. Frankly, I'm offended to see you make millions off of this illegal war. Frankly, I'm offended whenever I hear another soldier died. Frankly, I'm offended that you are still walking around a free man when you should be in prison for crimes against humanity. Frankly, I'm offended by your very existence.

[Chicago Democrat]

101. Chancellor Palpitine, we must crush these rapscallions!

Our Liar in Chief

[geckosfeet]

102. Well then, I hope he is offended by this too: FU DICK, a big FU.

[Joey Liberal]

104. Dr. Evil Cheney offends the entire world n/t

[spanone]

105. I'm offended by the arrogant prick cheney.

I hope he lives long enough to see jail time.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

106. I can see that...

He is quite fragile and sensitive, with a highly developed sense of decency.
Unti he rips off his rubber face and reveals the putrid rotting flesh eating the mangy skull that surrounds the brain containing pure black evil...

[Disturbed]

108. Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the Red Cross

are all wrong and Amerika is being picked on by these orgs. because they hate Amerika.

I am offended that the Bush Regime is criminal cult that has brought suffering and death and call it "spreading freedom".

[Kurovski]

112. Hmm

Imagine a stinky slice of bad cheese like Cheney being offended by anything.

[complain jane]

113. I'm offended by Cheney.

[thecai]

114. Kick n/t