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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:53 PM
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Germany offers food aid to North Korea
BERLIN (AFP) - Germany has made a 500,000-euro (620,000-dollar) food aid donation to help stave off famine in North Korea, Development Minister Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul said.

"The North Korean people are threatened by a famine similar to the one it suffered in 1990," Wieczorek-Zeul said, explaining the donation would back up efforts by the UN's World Food Programme (WFP).

The minister said Germany was making the donation after the North Korean government had been forced to reduce daily rice rations to 40 percent of what international standards consider as minimum recommended calorie needs.

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more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050530/wl_asia_afp/germanynkoreaaid_050530173404
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:56 PM
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1. This is a good thing.....
we don't need another Iraq humanitarian disaster...at the very least, the children should be fed

Wow, just think if we would do that here in the U.S., making sure children are always properly fed and given proper health care?
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:00 PM
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2. Does this mean
that BushCo. is going to add Germany to the axis of evil? Now they are helping our enemies?! Interesting...
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:06 PM
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4. Good point....
how long will it take for that to happen?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:56 AM
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17. Hi warsager!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:06 PM
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3. US Contributions:
fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/44000.pdf

N.K. has hampered WFP over the past years.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:22 PM
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5. It pisses me off to no end
that we can dictate who eats in this world. We did the same thing to Iraq with sanctions, as well as Castro/Cuba. What makes me laugh even more is that repugs use Cuba as an example of why socialism/communism won't work, but they never bring up the crippling SANCTIONS we have imposed on them that makes it impossible for them to build an economy. Socialism isn't the problem, sanctions are the problem. And then our government has the gall to wonder why these countries people hate us, well maybe it has something to do with the fact that we starve generations of families because we don't agree with their leaders. That is the reason for the insurgency in Iraq, not Zarqawi, or Bin Laden, or Saddam, or anybody. It's utter desperation and hopelessness, and it's easy to direct the blame on American soldiers, so they do. God, our countries leaders are so F'ing stupid, did they even go to school? I bet I could run teh army in Iraq better than BushCo.
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:30 PM
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6. No they hate our Freedom!
Haven't you been listening?? Wage war against Muslims? Starve children all over the globe? Test poisonous chemicals on poor people in underdeveloped countries? Sanction and bomb countires we don't like. Lies to the entire world regularly. Sell weapons to terriorists. Do business with terrorists when it suits us. Bully smaller, weaker countires when we want. Lie to the American public and the entire word regularly. Try to dictate how other countries ought to behave, which is in complete contridiction to how we behave. Kill thousands of innocent people daily. No, come on. It's our freedom they hate.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:33 PM
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7. Yeah...
Edited on Mon May-30-05 01:34 PM by Bush in Berkeley
It's HARD WORK to be this free :) You nailed it though, how can anybody listen to Bush tell them that other countries "hate us for our freedoms" and not call Bullshit, especially since our freedoms have noticeably eroded since Bush came into office.

edit:typo
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:47 PM
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9. At least we still have the right
to post on message boards like this. And to have Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers on our cars! We are a TRUE democracy. Not like in Turkey where they voted against allowing the US to invade Iraq from their southern border, or in the Ukraine where the people fought against voter fraud, no, we are US of A!!! Government FOR the people BY the people!!
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:51 PM
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11. Or the Ukraine,
which was told by the US to hold another set of elections because the exit polling data did not match the election results, so they had to vote again. Of course, when exit polls don't match our election results, it doesn't matter, because we're a TRUE democracy and we wouldn't get it wrong, right?
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:39 PM
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15. Um, no one is denying them food. As a matter of fact they turned down
aid from South Korea. They have hampered the WFP. They broke the agreement brokered by President Clinton. N.K. has some serious leadership issues.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:44 PM
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8. I hear bases closing in Germany
as I read this.
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:48 PM
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10. and not be right at
the enemies border? I don't know about that.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:53 PM
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12. it appears to be the plan
perhaps not closing but scaling down..congress is fighting Pentagon decision.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=%5CForeignBureaus%5Carchive%5C200505%5CFOR20050510a.html
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:01 PM
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13. I've been wondering
Edited on Mon May-30-05 02:02 PM by warsager
when other countries will decide to team up and fight against the US. What's that saying? 'An enemy of your enemy is your friend'? Something like that? Is it so impossible that other countries that might have no other common interest besides knocking down (overthrowing) imperialist America might find a common cause to join forces? Or am I too far off of reality here?
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:07 PM
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14. Taking baton from Bolton, Cheney slams North Korean leader
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Vice President Richard Cheney launched a personal attack on North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, calling him an irresponsible leader who "doesn't take care" of his people as he strives for nuclear power status for his country.

The comments, made in an interview with CNN's "Larry King Live" program due to be aired late Monday, marked an escalation of US rhetoric toward Pyongyang as the administration of President George W. Bush is stepping up diplomatic pressure to make Pyongyang return to six-party talks focused on North Korea's nuclear ambitions.

North Korea has refused to attend a fourth round of these talks that were to have taken place last September because of what it described as a "hostile" US attitude toward it.

The negotiations that in addition to the United States and North Korea involve China, Russia, South Korea and Japan have been stalled since then.

A Russian delegation that returned from Pyongyang earlier this month said North Koreans want the Bush administration to apologize for publicly branding Kim a "tyrant" and their country "an outpost of tyranny."

But according to excerpts of the interview released by the TV channel, Cheney made clear Pyongyang should not expect any softening of the US tone, let alone an apology.

"I am concerned about it," Cheney said of the stalled negotiations, "Partly because ... Kim Jong Il, who's the leader of North Korea, is -- I would describe as one of the world's more irresponsible leaders."

The vice president accused Kim of running "a police state" and one of the most heavily militarized societies in the world while the bulk of the North Korean population lived "in abject poverty and stages of malnutrition."

"He doesn't take care of his people at all," Cheney continued. "And he obviously wants to throw his weight around and become a nuclear power."

Cheney called the stalemate with North Korea "a major problem" and assured that the Bush administration was "continuing to work it very hard" to re-launch the talks.

He said officials in Pyongyang must "understand that they're not going to have normal relationships with the outside world, in terms of commerce, industry and trade, if they become a nuclear power."

The vice president also urged China to more aggressively use its clout with Pyongyang in trying to persuade it to return to the negotiating table.

"The Chinese need to understand that it's incumbent upon them to be major players here," Cheney said.

Cheney's attack appeared to echo comment made by Undersecretary of State John Bolton in Seoul two years ago, when he called Kim Jong Il as a "tyrannical dictator" who has made life is "a hellish nightmare" for many North Koreans.

In response, North Korean diplomats refused to deal with Bolton during the talks, and the remarks have been seen as a major contributing factor to their breakdown.

Bolton's nomination to be US ambassador to the United Nation is now at the center of a bitter political battle in the US Senate, where he was accused, among other things, of not clearing his Seoul remarks with other top State Department officials responsible for the North Korea portfolio.

But Cheney defended Bolton's record, calling him "a superb public official" who is particularly needed at the United Nations now that the organization is losing public confidence.

"He's tough," Cheney acknowledged. "But I can't think of sending somebody to the United Nations as our ambassador who's not tough."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050529/pl_afp/usnkoreacheney_050529234835
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18. warsager
Per DU copyright rules
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BikePunk Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:47 PM
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16. Strange...
I haven't heard a thing here in Munich about this. Its all about the vote by France to say NO to the EU constitution. Maybe because its so basically fundamental to give aid that its secondary right now.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:59 AM
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19. Hi BikePunk!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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