US religious right sees Senate compromise on judges as 'betrayal'

[RedEarth]

The US religious right, a key constituency of President George W. Bush, is furious at the Republican Party for failing to use its Senate majority to impose conservative judges in a showdown with opposition Democrats.

Some leading activists say they feel betrayed by the compromise reached by the two parties in a deal that averted a major Senate battle.

..........

Many members of the Christian right voted for Bush in last November's presidential election because of the promise of securing a more conservative judiciary, according to experts. And there was a fiery religious reaction to the Senate deal.

"This Senate agreement represents a complete bailout and betrayal by a cabal of Republicans and a great victory for united Democrats," said James Dobson, head of Focus On The Family, a right wing Christian activist group.

"We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November. I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050525/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticsjustice_050525161316&printer=1

[eagler]

1. Good

nt

[phantom power]

2. Excellent, may they all vote 3rd-party next term.

[Tyler Durden]

17. COOL. Now who will be the new George Wallace?

All they need is some egotistical Fundie Ubergruppenfuhrer to throw their bible in the ring, and we can take it all.

[TheFarseer]

3. Repukes are frauds

the sooner the fundies see this the better. This unholy alliance must cease to exist or it will be very difficult to get our country back from the corporations.

[hippiechick]

I think it's the other way around ...

The Fundies are the frauds who have hijacked what used to be the Republican Party with all their blah-blah about morality and compassion and family values shit which is really nothing more than intolerant hate and fear mongering driving a cute little Red White and Blue SUV.

Either way, I concur with what a previous poster stated: May they all vote 3rd party in the next few elections.

[sadiesworld]

14. You can't honestly believe that the fundies are pulling the corporadoes

strings, can you?! It's the same now as it always was and always will be: Follow The Money.

[hippiechick]

16. Not that they're 'pulling the strings'

... but that they've 'corrupted' the original intent of the greed crew. Real, true, old style Republicans don't give a shit about morality issues because aside from knowing they all live in glass houses, they're all about the Benjamins, as you state.

I think they thought they were making a smart move allowing the Fundie base to start dictating 'family friendly' platform in order to sway more voters, and the Fundies moved in for the kill.

[endarkenment]

4. They are getting their fascist taliban corporate greed head judges

So what is their complaint?

[leQ]

7. that they're only getting only three.

you should know these pigs by now. if they can't have it all, then nothing's good enough.

[endarkenment]

9. You have no idea how many will be confirmed

Three get no fillibuster by the Great Compromise. The others are in a totally ambiguous state. What isn't ambiguous is that if we use the fillibuster it will get nuked. So what makes you think that any bush nominations wil be rejected? The votes of the RINO-7? All aye-aye on Owen.

[sadiesworld]

15. It's better to work the fundies into a faux lather over the judges...

than have them focusing on the passage of the stem cell research bill in the House.
(This from a repub perspective)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

45. They are whining in a major way...

MKJ

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1498721&mesg_id=1498721

[atreides1]

5. Maybe Dobson should try prayer

The Bible says if you have faith the size of a mustard seed you could move a mountain.

I guess that's why I've also been leery of these so called prophets, I haven't seen when of them move a mountain with just their faith.

[Tux]

6. Not the only ones

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002287889_gopbiz25.html

[Cha]

11. Good article..

It takes two blind eyes for some to still belong to the repub party these days.

[Megahurtz]

12. "I don't know a single business group

involved in the Judicial Nominees" said Bruce Josten, an Executive Vice President of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce???

Oh well WAAAAAAAAAA!!!:cry::nopity:

Corporate Nimrod!:argh:

[silverweb]

8. Good!

Now we have to get the proper term for these people out into the public consciousness - dominionists.

Everyday, well-meaning, brainwashed conservative Christians are dupes for the dominionists who really want to run things, but most of them are probably unfamiliar with the word or its meaning.

Not content to practice their beliefs while allowing others the same right, the dominionists demand complete control of every aspect of society for believers and nonbelievers alike. A lot of people just don't realize this and would be horrified.

I tried to tell a few people about them two or three years ago and was laughed at. Those same people are getting a little nervous right now. It's time for an all-out educational assault to drive the point home.

From now on, I'm referring to the hard RW theocratic fundies by their true name - dominionists.

[AndyTiedye]

13. I Have Taken to Calling them "The Dominion"

Since they remind me so much of those alien invaders in Star Trek DS9.

They have infiltrated into every corner of the government,
replacing seasoned, responsible people with Fundie droids,
and they will not rest until they control everything we do,
say, and think.

[silverweb]

51. Appropriate.

Not enough people are familiar with DS9 for that to make sense to all of them, but it certainly otherwise is a very accurate name.

[Cha]

10. WHAAAA!

[RedEarth]

18. Religious right vows payback for brokers of filibuster pact

Religious right vows payback for brokers of filibuster pact

By Eric Gorski
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com

This week's compromise over Senate filibusters greatly disappointed Focus on the Family and its allies, who believed November election victories would help fulfill their long-held wish for a conservative makeover of the federal judiciary.

But representatives from conservative Christian groups who made the filibuster their signature issue suggest a severe price might be paid by the 14 Democrats and Republicans who brokered the last-minute deal.

"Any of them who have White House aspirations should get used to living in the doghouse," said Jan LaRue, chief counsel of Concerned Women for America.

James C. Dobson, founder of the Colorado Springs-based Focus, urged supporters to flood the Senate switchboard with calls to do away with the filibuster.

"We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November," Dobson said in a statement. "I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."


http://www.denverpost.com/ci_2755930?rss

[roseBudd]

19. Oh but they never vote dem anyways so it will only hurt the

repugnants.

With Voinovich being so brave on Bolton, us Ohioans should maybe reward him with our votes if the dem candidate doesn't stand a chance.

[blm]

20. I wonder if they will feel free now to out Lindsey Graham as gay.

He was getting protection from the higher ups at Bob Jones University who knew, but most christians in SC had no idea that he was gay.

[clydefrand]

31. L. Graham is gay? How can he be a JAG?

[customerserviceguy]

34. Maybe he's just

a JAG-OFF.

[blm]

36. Dark closet....noone has turned on the light. His Dem op in 2002 wouldn't

use it even though the gay activists in SC wanted him to.

[sniffa]

21. bring it on

this shouLd be the dope sLap they need to reaLize they're not the powerfuL majority they think they are.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

22. *ting*

exactly

[ellie]

28. Hey sniffa!

You're back! I was missing the capitaL L's.

[sniffa]

40. sorry

but they're back with avengence. :P

[mmonk]

23. The constitution should be defended

against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The religious right has proven they are a domestic enemy.

[Solly Mack]

24. Go for it. Do your best.

I like it when it's interesting. That's an internal fight I'd very much like to see played out publicly.

[LightningFlash]

25. "Any of them who have White House aspirations should get used to"

"living in the doghouse"

Oh boy it sounds very much like they are putting forth more than a threat.....

With Diebold & ES&S in their corner, more than one could be deselected! :evilgrin:

[Shakespeare]

26. That's the second jihad so far.

The first was over Schiavo, now a jihad--and that's what it is, folks--over this.

Gotta love that Americna taliban!

[Straight Shooter]

27. When winners become whiners.

:nopity:

[davidinalameda]

29. not only conservatives were betrayed by this

and I wouldn't vote for any of those Democrats who supported it

[AlGore-08.com]

30. I say: Have at 'em boys! Slash and burn them moderate GOPers out of '08!

Especially McCain.

Take him down, and take him down hard. :bounce:

[BadNews]

46. This is why the deal won't hold.

A couple of the seven will back out of the deal to avoid a challenge in the primaries. They need the fundie vote, especially in the primary. A little pressure will be applied, and an excuse will be found to break the deal. Now that the fundies have proof of who the traders are they won't be able to take the heat.

Among moderates, who pay little attention to politics, their backtrack (lie) about this issue will be forgotten. It will come down to the issues on hand right before the election. They lose almost not real votes by breaking the compromise.

[ticapnews]

32. Bring it on

This can only help Democrats. We won't lose any votes; we might just pick up some by people who are freaked out by this.

I hope these theocrats try to run someone here in Maine. Those wackos would scare/piss off most of the electorate here, giving us a chance to unseat Olympia. It would also mean they were devoting resources here in a losing cause rather than in another state where they might have a chance to win a primary challenge against a GOP incumbent.

And we have at least one challenger to Olympia now:
http://www.jeanhaybright.us/

The first of several potential Democratic candidates.

[Love Bug]

33. They say that now, but when push comes to shove

they'll hold their noses and vote for any of the 7 repugs before voting for any democrat.

[RelativelyJones]

35. They're bumping their heads on the ceiling of their power

Dobson and the other Left Behinders are delusional and maybe, just maybe, another 10% of the population is beginning to acknowledge this (in addition to the other 48% who already knew it).

[denverbill]

37. 'both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust'??

Which Democrat betrayed Dobson's trust anyway? Has that idiot ever voted for a Democrat? How can someone who you never voted for and wouldn't ever vote for possibly 'betray your trust'?

At least it's nice to finally see an actual female that works for 'Concerned Women for America' getting quoted. I've only ever seen men quote before.

[AzDar]

38. Yep, Jesus was all about the "Payback", wasn't he? Niiiiice!

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

39. Exactly.

Succinct and to the point. Good job.:toast:

[Ian David]

41. Their own people framed this as an absolute battle between good and evil

So now they're left with this:

Any compromise must be the WORK OF SATAN!

Anyone who compromised with the "Faithless Democrats" is helping the feminists to kill babies.

After all, this is a battle between Good and Evil; The Culture of Life and The Culture of Death; The Party of God and The Party of the Faithless; Jesus and Satan.

We need to keep telling them how betrayed they are.

And it's all because the corporate interests that paid them all that lobbying money are sick and tired of their important business legislation agenda taking a back seat to things like preserving marriage, protecting the unborn, and rebuking Satan.

No matter how pissed you are about the "compromise," remember this: The right-wing is much, MUCH more angry!

To us, it's about saving the country.

To them, it's about saving GOD!

Make sure you call and write and email and trumpet loudly to the right-wing: The Republicans sold your "Christian Values" down the river for a few pieces of silver from Enron and Halliburton.

[jazzjunkysue]

44. I'll stop crying, soon. Really. I'll be fine. Breakin' my heart.

If these people look at the american government for trust, I've got some great vacation property in florida I'd like to sell them.

[The Stranger]

42. How appropriate -- Dobson, consumed with revenge . . .

[jazzjunkysue]

43. It's spelled E D W A R D S and you have three + years to get ready.

[struggle4progress]

47. "Betrayal! Treason! Betrayal!" How tiresome. Get a frickin life. eom

[Pacifist Patriot]

48. I didn't realize millions of conservative Americans were in on

the election fraud. Damn, we're not going to have enough jail cells.

We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November."

Oh, and Jimmy "Focus On Your Own Damn Family" Dobson, that would be fundamentalist morons, not conservative Americans. Stop hijacking the conservative label.

[AuntiBush]

49. Well, let them "REAP what they've now SOWN!"

That's just toooooooo bad. They are not the "majority."

Imagine voting because of homophobic reasons. So now they're disappointed, outraged and feeling abandoned. HOW DOES IT FEEL!?!

False Christians, they are. Imagine how the families feel who lost their loved-ones on 9/11 and those still loosing family members in Iraqi.

Hypocrites!

[Mr_Spock]

50. They need to shut up and stop trying to destroy the country

Arse wipes...