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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:47 AM
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Real Gitmo shame?: Report U.S. soldier rapped for Koran abuse at lockup
Edited on Fri May-20-05 08:49 AM by brooklynite
WASHINGTON - It wasn't tossed in a toilet, but disrespecting an inmate's Koran got at least one American soldier reprimanded at the Guantanamo prison for terrorists, the Daily News has learned.

A record of the 2003 punishment was discovered by Army Brig. Gen. John Furlow while probing Gitmo misconduct alleged in FBI memos. But it wasn't included in the final report given to the U.S. Southern Command, according to a military official familiar with the investigation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/311282p-266320c.html
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(and #500 to boot...)
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:51 AM
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1. another good paragraph
"But two reliable military sources confirmed the previously undisclosed reprimand at the Camp Delta prison - contradicting Bush administration denials of any "credible and specific allegations" about Koran desecration at Gitmo."
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:51 AM
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2. One nitpick: "the Guantanamo prison for terrorists"???
Um, have any of the prisoners at Gitmo actually been charged with anything, let alone convicted?

It scares me how far the media is willing to go to legitimize everything.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:11 AM
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9. No, Gitmo has at least a dozen
#3 men in Al Qaeda, not to mention that we have killed another 20 or so #3 men in Al Qaeda and have the #3 man in Al Qaeda surrounded somewhere in Afghanistan and the Pakistanis have the #3 man in Al Qaeda surrounded in their northern moutains.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:18 AM
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10. LMAO
Oh yeah, I forgot about all the #3 guys we've captured or killed. ;-)
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:26 AM
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12. Tell me about it, they are supposedly waaayyy deep at the #3 spot
bush*co prefers it that way.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:55 AM
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3. "Guantanamo prison for terrorists"
How many terrorists are there really at Guantanamo? Not bloody many, that's for sure.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:14 AM
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4. All of the surviving 9/11 hijackers are there.
:eyes:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:49 AM
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6. Surviving 9/11 hijackers?
Who are they?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:50 AM
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7. Exactly.
D'oh. :dunce:
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:03 AM
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8. Including: Zarqawi (one-legged), Zarqawi (two-legged),
and a darn good Zarqawi Doppelganger.

In other news: an anonynous source
has sighted Syrians and
Iranis in attendance at Zarqawi's terrorist training camp.
Zarqawi,living near the Syrian/Iraqi border,
confirmed the report.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:19 AM
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11. "Zarqawi" is Arabic for Kilroy.
:silly:
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:45 PM
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17. Zarqawi was here
LOL

The philosophy behind US intelligence...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:45 PM
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18. (grin) Yep. I guess ya gotta be over 55 to really appreciate it.
Edited on Fri May-20-05 11:46 PM by TahitiNut
It was a WW2 "happening." The vast majority of youngsters here on DU ight, at most, be able to answer the trivia question - but not know how ubiquitous Kilroy was ... and in the most surprising places.
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:35 AM
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19. LOL!
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:44 AM
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5. Fred
Edited on Fri May-20-05 09:46 AM by jukes
you mean BESIDES the guards?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 03:57 PM
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13. Exactly. And how many terrorists are there...
...in the whole bloody world?

Far fewer than would justify the great waste of lives, money and liberty squandered in their name.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:02 PM
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14. Have any detainees of the Bush Fascist Regime been ...
tried and convicted of terrorism?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:07 PM
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15. well, somebody got their hand slapped.


..............the omission in the final report written by Lt. Gen. Randall Schmidt, who took over from Furlow, was because officers concluded the incident was isolated and new rules prevented further abuses, the official said.

Under White House pressure, Newsweek on Monday retracted a story that Schmidt determined a Koran was flushed in a Gitmo toilet, which the Pentagon slammed as "demonstrably false."

But two reliable military sources confirmed the previously undisclosed reprimand at the Camp Delta prison - contradicting Bush administration denials of any "credible and specific allegations" about Koran desecration at Gitmo.

"That's true," an ex-Army interrogator at Gitmo said. "I am aware of somebody having their hand slapped."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:10 PM
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16. seems the policy not to touch the Koran was not known.


The International Committee of the Red Cross said yesterday that Koran desecration at Gitmo was reported to the U.S. three years ago.

A Pentagon spokesman pointed out that a Jan. 19, 2003, Gitmo memo forbids any U.S. personnel from touching detainees' Korans. But the ex-interrogator, who was at Gitmo in 2003, said, "I never saw any that you can't touch it."

Originally published on May 20, 2005
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