Catholic school ends speaking invitation to Kansas(pro-choice)governor

[Algorem]

http://www.cleveland.com/newsflash/cleveland/index.ssf?/base/news-16/1115348244189980.xml&storylist=cleveland

5/5/2005, 11:17 p.m. ET
The Associated Press

CINCINNATI (AP) — A Roman Catholic high school has withdrawn its invitation to Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to speak at graduation ceremonies because of her support for abortion rights.

We initially nominated her because we were proud of her career successes," Carol Byrd, spokeswoman for Summit Country Day School, said Thursday. "After further consideration, we rescinded our invitation."

Sebelius, a Democrat and the daughter of former Ohio Gov. John J. Gilligan, graduated from the school in 1966. Gilligan served as governor from 1971-75. The school initially announced that Sebelius would receive an award at its June 5 commencement.

A spokesman for Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk, head of the Archdiocese of Cincinnati, said the archbishop was contacted by a school official for advice only, since the school is independent...

[SammyBlue]

1. Huh?

Catholic Indoctrination Center.. .er, school, did that??? Heaven forbid the followers of that faith have a mind of their own.

Thank G-d I'm Jewish. At least we value independent thought and look at questions of faith with an open-mind. Well, except the Hasidim. To them, I'm not even Jewish. I'm a Shabbas Goy!

[CC]

2. What a shame that her

accomplishments don't count because she believes a woman should have a say over her body. Glad I am a Deists.

[Miss Chybil]

3. What a clever headline.

Not.

[Erika]

4. Let them keep their politics up

and they will be stripped of their tax exemption status.

[northstar]

5. This is really a shame

If you read further into the article it states:

Andriacco said the archbishop's advice was based on a June 2004 document from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops entitled "Catholics in Political Life." It was formulated in response to the question of whether then-presidential candidate John Kerry, who also supports abortion rights, should receive Holy Communion.

"The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles," the document said. "They should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions."

The problem here is that the bishops (and the document that they produced) did not follow the Pope's directive to American catholics to <paraphrase> 'weigh all of the issues and values of your candidates when deciding who to vote for'.

The bishops directed the sheep in their flock to think ONE ISSUE - abortion. The sheep were not to consider things like 'What is a Just War?', the Sovernity of Nations, killing of innocents, deception to further monetary gains, etc. Many of the sheep 'obliged' and voted solely on the abortion issue. It appears that the sheep in Cincinnati are 'doing as they are told' and disinviting the Govenor based on ONE ISSUE - one that she apparently never chose for herself even!

(and what does that mean anyway?:

A spokesman for Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk, head of the Archdiocese of Cincinnati, said the archbishop was contacted by a school official for advice only, since the school is independent...

Is it a catholic school or isn't it? If it IS, then why isn't it under the authority of the diocese?)

btw, considering that Kerry only was pro-choice for the nation as a whole - considering not everyone in this nation is a catholic or christian. He (nor the women he was involved with) apparently never chose that as an option personally, while *rumor-has-it* that years ago GWB's girlfriend' actually HAD an abortion that GWB helped facilitate (since it was illegal then....)

It's a shame....a crying shame!

[rpannier]

11. I went to a Catholic High School

Not all Catholic Schools are run by Diocese. De La Salle in Concord, CA is run by the Chritian Brothers and the Diocese has NO say over the school, because the Brothers are an independent order.
Hope that answers your question:
Is it a catholic school or isn't it? If it IS, then why isn't it under the authority of the diocese?)

[northstar]

14. Thanks for the response/info

I didn't realize that it was possible for a school to be independent of the diocese like that.

[moggie]

6. But I guess child abuse is ok

http://www.citybeat.com/2002-06-06/cover.shtml

In 18 months as a college seminarian for the Archdiocese of Cincinnati, I saw too much debauchery and vice to be shocked by the revelations of clerical sexual abuse now rocking the Catholic Church. What is surprising, however, is the intransigence of the men responsible for doing something about the scandals.

In statements meant to mollify the damage, Cincinnati Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk continually makes clear his lack of understanding of both the nature and the urgency of the problem.

"Obviously one case per century is too much," he said last month. "But sexual abuse of children is not a rampant moral disease that afflicts large numbers of clergy."

There's more at that URL. Evidently Pilarczyk is one of those who seeks to brush off accusations of child abuse by priests ("Needless attacks have been launched against the church"), rather than trying to address this real problem. But someone in favour of women controlling their own bodies? That's a real sin, right?:grr:

[Hardrada]

7. This issue denied me a political career.

I was running as a Dem in a dem county for state rep but the local priestsfound out I was pro-life and urged their parishioners (Dems mostly) not to vote for me. They didn't even though I was hoping to improve their lives and working conditions.

[still_one]

8. frankly its time to remove tax deductable institution to the Catholic

church, and any other religion, that gave orders not to give communion to anyone who supported a candidate who was pro-choice

[Algorem]

9. "Ohio's pedophile priests have Bishop Pilla in their corner"

http://www.clevescene.com/issues/2005-04-27/news2.html

The Sin That Keeps on Giving

Victims of sexual abuse have found their toughest lobbying foe -- the Catholic church.

BY CHRIS MAAG
[e-mail]

The victims rose, one after another, for eight full hours, telling stories of their childhoods, when the most trusted people in their lives raped them...

As the tears fell, something amazing happened up on that bench. The senators listened. Ohio law currently bars people over the age of 20 from suing someone who abused them when they were children. Senate Bill 17 raises the age to 38. It also creates a "look-back" period: For one year after the law's passage, anyone victimized after 1970 would be allowed to sue.

Most of the senators entered the room that March morning either neutral or opposed to the bill. This, after all, is the Ohio Senate, where the Republican majority has done its best to stop injured people from suing...

Following the death of Pope John Paul II and the glowing coverage it received, the church is once again turning away from its parishioners to protect its pedophiles. Priests and nuns from around the state are organizing a major lobbying push against the bill, legislators say. One of the loudest voices is that of Cleveland Bishop Anthony Pilla, who recently met with legislators in Columbus. (Diocese officials refuse to discuss the lobbying efforts.)...

[DanCa]

10. Is arnold still reciving communion?

Someone should tell these people that he is pro choice.

[darkism]

12. I went to a Catholic high school...

...and came out much more liberal than when I started.

Not because the school was so conservative, but rather the opposite. Theology classes taught the TRUE Catholic principles of social justice, equality...all that, you know...LIBERAL stuff.

They didn't have too many kind words to say about abortion, but at least they opposed capital punishment and war too, which is more than one can say for many of these religious nuts who think it's a sin to do away with a cluster of cells but perfectly ok to execute "felons" and "brown people."

Catholic school taught me what Christ was all about - liberalism.


Coincidentally, I now attend the university run by the same people as the high school - VERY diverse student population and MUCH more liberal than even the public university I started out at. Plus, they didn't back down when the fundies were trying to get them to rescind a speaking invitation to Obama.

[cap]

13. this rule is applied to Democrats only

we need to talk 62% of Catholics are pro-choice. There's just too much silence and silence kills.

[HockeyMom]

15. I went to Catholic School

and stopped taking communion on my own as a teenager. My own protest against their views on birth control and abortion. When we went to Mass as a group back then, I would sit in the pew when the rest of the class went to communion. They asked me why and I told them. The nuns and the priests would just stare at me in stony silence.

Even today both my husband and myself will not go. Yes, we do still get the stares, but I have noticed there are getting to be more and more people who don't go up to communion. How many of those people up at the communion don't have more than 2 or 3 kids? You mean to tell me they aren't using "artificial birth control"?

Maybe instead of all these Bishops threatening these pro choice politic ans with denial of communion, the politicians themselves should start their own protest. Beat them to the punch.

[cap]

16. 62% of Catholics are pro-choice; 95% have used contraception at least once

we need to talk about the church saying one thing and us doing something else. Silence has hurt the church in the pedophile nonsense and it is hurting us now.