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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:03 PM
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Scientists Confirm Earth's Energy Is Out of Balance
Scientists Confirm Earth's Energy Is Out of Balance

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Scientists have concluded more energy is being absorbed from the sun than is emitted back to space, throwing the Earth's energy "out of balance" and warming the globe.

Scientists from NASA, Columbia University, New York, and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, Calif. used satellites, data from buoys and computer models to study the Earth's oceans. They confirmed the energy imbalance by using precise measurements of increasing ocean heat content over the past 10 years.




Clouds and the Earth's Radiant Energy System (CERES) measurements show the reflected solar radiation (left) and emitted heat radiation (right) for January 1, 2002. In both images, the lightest areas represent thick clouds, which both reflect radiation from the Sun and block heat rising from the Earth's surface. Notice the clouds above the western Pacific Ocean, where there is strong uprising of air, and the relative lack of clouds north and south of the equator. Credit: NASA


The study reveals Earth's energy imbalance is large by standards of the planet's history. The imbalance is 0.85 watts per meter squared. That will cause an additional warming of 0.6 degrees Celsius (1 degree Fahrenheit) by the end of this century.



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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:08 PM
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1. Conservation of energy is just a theory!
Only Communist terrorist freedom-haters believe in the conservation of energy!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:14 PM
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3. Right..just ask Michael Crichton.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 08:25 PM
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16. Bwah! Very good!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:10 PM
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2. Trees might play a role.
Trees obstruct sunlight that would otherwise strike the ground. I have noticed that where there are no trees, the ground is significantly hotter. It doesn't take an idiot like me to see this dramatic difference. But I haven't heard of anyone addressing it. My thought is that the vast areas of deforestation have contributed to the phenomenon which this article refers. And it is a double for nothing problem in that we are producing co2 while at the same time decreasing our ablity to convert. I sure wish I knew where to go in order to relay my thoughts. Like it would matter...
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:16 PM
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4. Solution: PLANT MORE TREES
Do not let anyone or anything get in your way. Find some open ground, learn which trees are best for the soil, get some seeds, and plant trees.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:27 PM
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7. * planted a tree just the other day
... threw three shovels of dirt at it.

:grr:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:57 PM
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10. Ain't that ducky?
As Rush Limbaugh once said, "He who lives by the photo-op dies by the photo-op."

He's gonna have to do more than "plant" a single tree in order to make up for all the damage his policies have inflicted on the environment.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:40 PM
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8. The Cannibus genus absorbs nearly 3 times as much CO2
than most regular trees.

just plant some hemp... of the 'innocuous' variety.
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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:50 PM
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9. How about Kudzu?
It's all over the place in the south...I've always wondered what it's environmental impact was, with that heavy green carpet covering everything it can get to. Of course, it probably kills a lot of trees as well.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 05:30 AM
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22. it DEFINITELY kills a lot of trees
but I've been interested in the prospects of using it for a food source for cattle, as well as ethanol.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:38 PM
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12. Here's the problem I see-
The lag time between planting, and maturity.

They come in and cut the trees. Then they plant. The term, which sounds remarkably like "retard", is "replant". Ok, so they replant... That hillside is now barren for at least ten years. This, I know from my real estate ramblings. I used to be able to buy land. But then people got greedy and cut and replanted. I called it "shred n sell", "mow n move", etc. I have a bunch of phrases for it. It gets worse, but I'll stay on topic. The problem is with us now. Like my sig line- what can we do about it? Not a hell of a lot, except to stop it. Now. And that isn't an option. We can't even agree, let alone educate people. And that is why I have a big piece of land with flowing water- so I can sit and watch the whole ball of confusion blow up. I tried. And all it did was piss people off. My neighbor is clearcutting my front yard. 4000 acres, and he has to cut my view. It's only ten acres. I offered to buy the trees. It would cost in excess of $100k! Get that! So the love of money, combined with demand, gets us in trouble again.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:11 AM
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24. Gregorian, your neighbor is a total jerkwad.
I empathize completely. In my mountain home, over the last 14 years, I have watched my beautiful views to the east, to the west, and to the south demolished by people who put up the ugliest effin' buildings imaginable. And they don't even live here.

As for trees, the local nurseryman said in 20 years they'll have to clearcut my front and back yard because I'm planting so many trees. He was kidding. But I have planted about 35 trees in the last 3 years, and this year I'm going to plant maybe 3 more. Got to watch that water usage, though x(
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:21 PM
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5. Koyaanisqatsi
There's a lot more than just the climate that's out of balance.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:21 PM
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6. Venus absorbed more than it reflected.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:14 PM
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11. Having one of those "holy shit" moments
The chance of a "runaway heat cycle" rapidly bringing about climate change is pretty freaky, can't get with that at all...
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:33 PM
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13. I don't see this in my Bible.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:56 PM
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15. It's in mine
burning in a lake of fire is just what Jeebus warned sinners about.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:41 PM
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14. *'s response would be the earth just needs to pray
Maybe meditate a bit and get its energy back in balance.
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 08:50 PM
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17. What a bunch of junk science.
:sarcasm:
(I've been waiting to use that one!)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 08:54 PM
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18. Maybe it's Chi needs to be realigned?
A good hard fuck usually opens the heart chakra.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 09:22 PM
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19. The carbon cycle is completely fucked up
It doesn't take a genius to figure that more CO2 in the atmosphere (an increased rate) - a fixed rate of removal = more CO2 in the atmosphere than should be.
More trees really can't help...we have GOT to level of CO2 output or we're fucked.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:00 AM
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21. More trees would help, along with reducing CO2 output.


The Larch
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 02:36 AM
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20. What about the freaking Chemtrails?
Edited on Sun May-01-05 02:37 AM by dbt
What sort of role are they playing in this mess? "thick clouds, which both reflect radiation from the Sun and block heat rising from the Earth's surface."

It's way past time for a serious discussion of what these thin, artificial and reflective clouds are doing to aggravate the blocking of heat rising from the Earth's surface.

If Chemtrails are, as I suspect more with each passing day, part of Edward Teller's "Sunscreen For Planet Earth" solution from 1997 (that is, to reduce incoming sunlight by one per cent), then what are they blocking from escaping?

And while we're at it, what are they doing to an already out-of-whack global weather pattern?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 08:21 AM
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23. Oh good grief. Chemtrails? Contrails, sure, but chemtrails?
We have enough :tinfoilhat: wearing up here already.


Now, contrails can spread and actually result in quite a bit of cloud cover. Observations were made during the days immediately after 9/11 and I believe some differences were noted.
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