Proud Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez of Being "Axis of Badly" Latinoamerica

[chlamor]

My comment: The language of translation opens up a different way of thinking.


Proud Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez of being "axis of badly" of Latinoamerica

The presidents of Venezuela and Cuba, made fun of of the critics that ex- civil employees of the government of Bush made towards the agent chief executives. "I am realizing of which your friendship harms to me", Chávez joked.

Havana, 29 of April. - The presidents of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, and of Cuba, Fidel I castrate, Friday of the critics made fun of that receive from the United States and they were proud of being a species of "bad boys" of Latin America by his revolt before the government of Washington.
The ex- North American undersecretary of State for Inter-American Subjects Otto Reich talked about recently to the Cuban governor - in the power 46 years ago like a "malevolent genius", and said that, along with the "irresponsibility" of Chávez, puts in La Paz danger in the region.

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"If of axis we are going to speak, the axis one would be extending in all directions", said Chávez in reference to the increasing number of governments of leftist tendency in the region, in a speech where the leaders of the Salvadoran left, Shafik Handal were present, and of the Bolivian, Evo Moral.
Cuba and Venezuela maintain tense relations with the United States, to which Chávez accuses to be behind the attempt to remove it from the power.

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[alittlelark]

1. Very funny translation of a serious subject.

Good find!

[chlamor]

2. Yea-how about this line

"If of axis we are going to speak, the axis one would be extending in all directions", said Chávez

It's hilarious and such language and ribald accuracy rarely comes from Anglo politicians. reminds me of the Sup-Marcos

[bemildred]

3. If you really want to learn about Castro, read "Century of the Wind"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393318079/102-0460555-0533768?v=glance

Stunning. The best history I've ever read, December 12, 2000

Eduardo Galeano may be the world's best living writer and thinker, and Century of the Wind may be his best book. I've not yet read his newest. But this is an extraordinary history of the western hemisphere in the 20th century, told vignette by vignette. Each paragraph is a story of its own, but they form into a moving collage that will change forever how you view the world around you.

An absolutely great read, too.

[chlamor]

4. Thx-I'm looking for

a book whose title and author I do not know but the title is something about the myth of the naming of America or some such thing. Author(s) were Latino and I saw it on the back of NACLA a few years back. Any thoughts or ideas on that vague clue?

I am going to look for "Century of the Wind" as I trust your tastes and cherish the words of Galeano. At present I am perusing "Our Word is Our Weapon" by Sup Marcos-3rd time and reading Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino.

always appreciate your insight bemildred

[bemildred]

6. Only a very vague bell ringing. Maybe something will come.

And thank you for the hints in return my friend.

[Mika]

5. Thanks for the tip, bemildred

:hi:


Here's one for all who want to learn about Cuba's political development from a historical perspective, including recent development of their democratic system.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0968508405/qid=1053879619/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-8821757-1670550?v=glance&s=books






www.stopbolton.org

[bemildred]

7. Hi Mika.

That looks fascinating, given the general bullshit level about
Cuba. I think I've seen it once before. It seems to be hard to
find, and I already know what I think about Cuba, and I'm still
trying to get through Proust. Maybe if the dickwads in Washington
decide that we can be a free people again I can go and look for
myself. I think I'd like that.

[chlamor]

8. sustainable Agriculture and Resistance: Cuba

:toast: to Mika and bemildred





This is a story of resistance against all odds, of Cuba’s remarkable recovery from a food crisis brought on by the collapse of trade relations with the former Socialist Bloc and the tightening of the US trade embargo. Unable to import either food or materials needed for conventional agriculture, Cuba turned inward to self-reliance. Sustainable agriculture, organic farming, urban gardens, smaller farms, animal traction, and biological pest control are all part of the new Cuban agriculture. In this book, Cuban authors offer details of these remarkable achievements to serve as guideposts toward healthier, more environmentally friendly and self-reliant farming.

https://commerce12.pair.com/~pront011/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FFB&Product_Code=0-935028-87-0&Category_Code=B

[bemildred]

9. That really kicks ass.

I hope we can bring back the family farm here again. THAT was
the backbone of America, the small, independent, hard-working
family farm.

Here's a good one I found looking around for "naming america"
(from Italy no less):

In other words, Latin America holds in its hands the power to make of itself what it may. Yet the success or failure of democracy seems to have much to do with the relationships that Latin American elites have cultivated with the outside world. The strength of democracy in Latin America, though, lies within itself.

In his collection of essays and critiques entitled We Say No, Eduardo Galeano tells the story of an Argentine writer and friend, Haroldo Conti, who struggled with the idea that his work was politically useless. It was perhaps his humility that led him to believe that his writing had no effect on society, because, as Galeano states, "...his stories tell about life and make it happen...By telling us what we are, they help us to be - because how can a people who do not know their identity become protagonists in history, making history instead of suffering it?" Like many writers of his time, Conti was kidnapped, disappeared, and erased from the collective memory of Latin America. (Galeano, 172)

What is the purpose of recounting the story of Haroldo Conti? How does it relate to the future of democracy in Latin America? The answer lies in a particularly powerful image witnessed in an industrial part of Montevideo, Uruguay. On a hazy summer day in February, walking along the rambla, the road eventually began to meander along what had been a beach. It had become an industrial wasteland. The water stagnant and covered with bubbles of filth, the beach was hidden from view by oilcans, tires, plastic containers, rags, metal scraps. The most common and obscure objects were strewn across the beach for hundreds of metres, not a grain of sand visible to the naked eye. And what, in the midst of this humiliated stretch of seashore, unexpectedly rose up to defy its polluted surroundings? A single sunflower humbly stood, its main of yellow petals tilted toward the ground.

It would be easy to say that the sunflower was the exception, the garbage along the beach being the rule. But who put the garbage there? It is too easy to forget what lay underneath the rubbish - the earth that gave the sunflower the strength to grow and survive. And so it is with democracy. For centuries, layers of rhetoric, ideology, false prophecies, failed models of development, unwarranted and unnecessary involvement by foreign powers, and worst of all, lies, have turned democracy into a chimera - implying that it lacked any form of agency; a simple accident of history. But democracy is a reality in Latin America. And like the sunflower and Haroldo Conti, its roots are entrenched in fertile ground. The most important step for consolidating democracy in twenty-first century Latin America is to realize that it is already a part of its reality. The next one is to jettison the myth that democracy does not belong to its citizens.

http://216.122.222.203/pugwash/carlo_2004_1.asp

[chlamor]

10. Can I nominate someones reply?

how can a people who do not know their identity become protagonists in history, making history instead of suffering it?"

I am imagining a large big box store with the consumer frenzy and the historical denial and the great forgetting we are embroiled in. our role is then to rediscover what makes us humane to rediscover the watershed we live in and eschew all the artificial demarcations, internal and external.
Tomorrow and coffee and that amazing article.

solidarity

There is no freedom without land

[bemildred]

12. Galeano, not me. I only wish. nt

[bemildred]

11. Actually, I should get that.

I've been learning to use my yard as a garden for a couple years now.
These guys could probably teach me things.

[Judi Lynn]

14. Piling on, here. I scanned that article, will return to read it, also.

It looks REALLY good. Looking forward to setting aside some time to read later tonight.

Thanks a lot.

[burrowowl]

13. Here is another good one

Published on Friday, April 29, 2005 by the Associated Press
Venezuelan President Says He Will Not Return to U.S. Until Americans "liberate" Their Nation
by Andrea Rodriguez

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0429-11.htm

[Judi Lynn]

15. Excellent! Love that spirit.

Thanks, burrowowl!