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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:38 AM
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Congress debates face of $1 coin
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2005/04/27congressdebates.html

Congress debates face of $1 coin
Delaware's Castle sponsors bill to mint dollars featuring past presidents
By JENNIFER BROOKS / News Journal Washington Bureau
04/27/2005

WASHINGTON -- Before long, American pockets could be jingling with dollar coins engraved with the faces of Ronald Reagan, Millard Fillmore and Bill Clinton, as Congress considers a plan to begin minting dollar coins to commemorate all the past presidents.

Hoping to cash in on the popularity of the state quarter program - which has generated $5 billion in revenue and turned an estimated 140 million Americans into coin collectors - the House of Representatives began debate Tuesday on legislation that could turn the golden dollar coin into a hot collectible.

The coins would be minted at a rate of four presidents a year, starting with George Washington and working up to the modern day. Every former president, living and deceased, would be on a dollar coin if the bill becomes law. Sitting presidents would be excluded under the bill. Supporters hope the new twist will drive up demand for dollar coins that now are gathering dust in sock drawers and coin collections.
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Because coins are more durable than bills, the government could save as much as $500 million a year on printing costs if the public embraced the dollar coin, according to a 2002 report by the General Accounting Office.



This would be the ONLY way that I would allow Reagan on a coin - if it was a series that included the faces of ALL the presidents - just like the state quarters
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:40 AM
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1. Why bother? Ever attempt at putting a dollar coin into circulation
that they've made in the past 50 years or so has failed miserably.
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:43 AM
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4. but these will be collectibles
so, getting them into circulation might not matter as much. Collectors will gobble 'em up.



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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:34 AM
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29. What no more "INDIAN MASCOTS" on our $1.00 coin
YIKES
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:57 AM
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7. If prices keep going up, they'll be like quarters
They'll just dump the pennies, nickles and dimes, and the jingle in your pocket will mean you have a few bucks on ya!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:41 AM
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2. My thoughts exactly
"be the ONLY way that I would allow Reagan on a coin"
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:41 AM
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3. Harry Truman!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:44 AM
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5. I bet it'd work!
The coins might not "circulate" much, but selling them to collectors would catch on.

They would NOT replace paper ones, though.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:54 AM
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6. coins are heavy
What about using hemp for bills?

I have some of the Sacagawea coins and I think they are easily confused with a quarter. I think that's part of why they didn't go over well.
I do like the Sacagawea coin for the art it's one that I decided to hang onto.

If they put 'Raygun' on a coin I won't be collecting it, as a matter of fact I would ask for a paper bill if still possible.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:38 AM
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10. I liked the Sacajawea coins
They're larger than a quarter, a different color, and not milled along the sides.

The only way a dollar coin would get anywhere if if they actually deigned to circulate them. As it is you have to ask for them at a bank, even when the coins were first "in circulation".

I have yet to receive one as change anywhere other than a post office stamp machine. And the first several months after the coin was minted, I would ask for several rolls and spend them everywhere to get them in circulation.

Whatever goes on the dollar coin, how much do you want to bet that it fails too?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:24 PM
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46. i loved them, too
are they still being made?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:53 AM
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21. Europe loves the damned things.
When Europe created their currency, they created tons of coins.

1¢ 2¢ 10¢ 20¢ 1€ 2€ and a bunch more. It seemed like way to much.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:38 AM
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31. HOW are you confusing them??
One's gold and has a smooth edge; one's 'silver' and has a milled edge. They're not the same size....

Are you thinking of Susan B.'s?
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:01 AM
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8. Finally, John Tyler gets the recognition he deserves....


:) :rofl:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:29 AM
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9. We're just greatful that James Buchanon finally made it


He's so overshadowed by that other guy that followed him, that Abe, I think he name is!

:eyes:
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:54 AM
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11. Would Grover Cleveland get two coins?
Since he's counted twice for his non-consecutive terms?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:25 AM
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15. Would the boy chimp be removed...
...since technically he was never elected in the first place.

Or we'll just point this portrait on his coin:



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d.l.Green Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:06 AM
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23. Hopefully they will have finished minting this series while he's still in
office... "Sitting presidents would be excluded under the bill." That would be precious.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:42 PM
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39. Just the thought of chimp on a coin makes me sick
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Ishoutandscream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:25 AM
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27. Yes, yes!! Penn. only president
It's about damn time!!! Lol
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:35 PM
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36. His Accidency...
Wasn't that Tyler?

Of course, if Dubya hadn't gotten a second term, I would have thought it applied to him.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:08 AM
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12. It's not the face that has been the problem
If it looks like another SBA dollar it won't fly. Several countries have successful dollar coins. If we swallow our pride and actually "gasp" copy what has worked in Canada and elswhere, this could be a good thing.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:19 AM
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13. I believe one of the reasons it has been so successful
elsewhere is because they actually STOPPED making the paper currency.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:24 AM
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14. Correct.
If we stop making the paper dollar, the dollar coin will do just fine, and it will save money.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:36 AM
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16. It seems to me
$1 coins don't catch on well and is primarily a waste of time except maybe for collectors.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:45 AM
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17. Personally Ill mallet out or train track many of the repub ones I got at
least 'pubs from the last 35 years or so.

Other than that I like it.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:26 PM
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35. Never train track a coin
When I was in junior high a classmate put a quarter on the tracks alongside our school. When the train came along, the weight of the train and the angle of the wheel caused the quarter to be fired out like a bullet. It hit him just above the ankle, shattering the bone and ripping out a big chunk of his flesh...it looked like a gunshot wound.

Pennies are soft and flatten easily, but any of the larger coins are made of harder metals that can act unpredictably when placed on a track.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:45 PM
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41. Holy crap I've never heard of such a horrible incident.
I will most assuredly take your advice and figure out some other devious means of defiling the 'pub'd ones. I feel so bad for your classmate, just traumatic. Did they sue anyone??
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 03:25 PM
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42. Who would they have sued?
He put the quarter on the track, after all.

Seriously, I used to flatten pennies, crush rocks, and put all kinds of other things on railroad tracks as a kid because it was cool to watch them get crushed. After seeing his leg, I haven't done so since.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:22 PM
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49. very interesting.... why not use tape?
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:46 AM
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18. This is a back door attempt to get Wimp-chimp on a coin.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:47 AM
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19. I'm sure these 'wastes of space' have nothing better to do...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:50 AM
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20. That's pretty cool.
:thumbsup:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:54 AM
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22. I love dollar and two dollar coins in Canada
And the bigger denomination coins in England.

I don't know why they don't work here. they're really convenient. My wife thinks it's cuz Americans like to walk around with the pimp roll ($20 over a bunch of singles). She's probably right. The society of the scam...
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:08 AM
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24. the Loonie and the Two-nie
We are NOT an adaptable people here in America.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:11 AM
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25. EC -- Eastern Caribbean currency used a coin for $1
I actually prefer this to having a whole mess of one dollar bills.

It is probably all a matter of what one is used to.

http://www.eccb-centralbank.org/PublicAwareness/particles_5.asp



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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:15 AM
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26. Uh oh, freepers won't like this:
"Sitting presidents would be excluded under the bill."

NO DUBYA WORSHIPPING? WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA SO MUCH???
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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:31 AM
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28. but by the time they get to him, he'll be a past president
4 per year, he'll be out of office by then.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:06 PM
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32. At four presidents a year. . .
Shrub will be a decade or more out of office before his turn arrives, so he'd get a coin. The Democrat in office at that time would be the one excluded.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:36 AM
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30. I don't think that they should put living people on coins
They do not do it on stamps. They can certainly wait until the former Presidents are deceased to add them to the series.
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woosh Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:10 PM
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33. I would recommend a "corporate plunderer" collection
Who wouldn't want a Ken Lay, Kozlowski or Regis on the back of their $1 coin?
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:13 PM
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34. WHAT ABOUT THE WOMEN?
My God ... the only coinage they'll put any women on (Sacajawea and Susan B. Anthony) is the $1 coin, which people hate.

Now, they're not even going to have women's faces on THOSE?

I guess the United States just doesn't give a shit about the historical contributions of ANY American women. Why don't they just make us wear burqas?

Eff this idea.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:40 PM
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37. That's An Idea Gauguin57...
They changed the quarter to the "state quarters" - they changed the back of the nickel to commemorate the Lewis and Clark expedition.

Why don't we get them to take an EXISTING coin and temporarily replace the man on there with a series of women who have made significant contributions to history. To try and eliminate any political grandstanding, the woman could not be anyone alive and could not just be a first lady unless she made other contributions to American society, history, etc.

It's an idea, you think?
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:43 PM
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40. You know part of the reason is this...
Coin OP machines read current, not the ike dollar coins, as quarters, they cannot tell a difference, that was a HUGE mistake, and one reason why those two particular coins bombed with people. I should know, we use such a machine to count coins at work every night, and you DO NOT put any dollar coins, either the current, or Susan B. Anthony one into the machine, because it is counted as a quarter, rather than a dollar.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:20 PM
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48. What about blacks????
My ancestors have been in this country for ages. We're always left out when it comes to anything historical. It's as if we don't exist.

This looks like a desperate white man's last gasp for air; doing anything he can to maintain power.

What's the point of having these stupid $1 coins anyway?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:41 PM
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38. Looks like it is passing almost unamously
423-4 (not quite the final number)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 03:26 PM
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43. William Harrison finally gets the recognition he earned
I only wish * had served as long as Dear ole Willie.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:12 PM
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44. Well, with this congress, we already know who is going to be on the coin.
Those idiots have wanted to put Reagan on SOMETHING ever since he started drooling into his soup.
Duckie
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:15 PM
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45. so true.
he so looks like the Shoney's (or Bob's big boy) mascot with his plastic hair.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:50 PM
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47. They should have the "mediocre presidents" series, a la Simpsons
The Mediocre Presidents
All: We are the mediocre presidents.
You won't find our faces on dollars or on cents!
There's Taylor, there's Tyler,
There's Fillmore and there's Hayes.
There's William Henry Harrison,
Harrison: I died in thirty days!
All: We... are... the...
Adequate, forgettable,
Occasionally regrettable
Caretaker presidents of the U-S-A!

A line of the song would have to be updated. But at least the chimp couldn't get on, as he doesn't even rate as mediocre.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:23 PM
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50. if they put Bush on the coin, it will circulate VERY quickly ...
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 05:23 PM by Lisa
People will be frantically spending them because they don't want to have to carry them around.


So maybe this plan isn't as nutty as I'd thought ...
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:24 PM
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51. Cool. nt
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