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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:43 PM
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Rice to Discuss Democracy in Latin America
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Rice-Latin-America.html

April 25, 2005
Rice to Discuss Democracy in Latin America
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 3:59 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will discuss ways to improve governance in Latin America during this week's trip to a region beset by corruption and social inequality.

Her visit coincides with U.S. concern that Venezuela has become increasingly authoritarian while reinforcing its alliance with Cuba. She could use the trip to highlight the administration's worries about Venezuela in a speech to an international pro-democracy conference in Chile, her third stop.

..cut...

Miguel Tinker-Salas, a Latin American expert at Pomona College in California, says it would be a mistake for Rice to go to the region in hopes of forging a ''coalition of the willing'' that opposes Chavez. He said she should address the region's social agenda.

..more at AP
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:46 PM
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1. At least the rest of the world
sees this admin as the ruthless THUGS that they are. If only we could convince the blind here at home. I like the "don't even think about it" way he said it'd be a mistake. Let them know you see through their propaganda.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:47 PM
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2. She speaks Latin?
Sorry couldn't resist
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:47 PM
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3. "a region beset by corruption and social inequality."
I thought she was already in Texas

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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:55 PM
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5. Re: A region beset by corruption and social inequality
"We're thinking of outsourcing some of our own beauracratic operations here."
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:20 PM
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14. LOL!
oh how the irony abounds in this mis-administration!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:48 PM
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4. Oh, an educational trip so she can learn about democracy?
How sweet ;)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:00 PM
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6. The hypocrisy of American politicos ...
particularly this group of vermin, never ceases to amaze me. Corruption, social inequality - this country is writing the textbook!
The U.S.'s main concern with Venezuela is that it can't be controlled by the Neocon Nazis.
This administration has brass ones!

:puke:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:04 PM
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8. What marmar said.
Rice makes me :puke: every time she makes another pronouncement about democracy in other countries.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:08 PM
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9. Exactly!
Venezuela's oil and Chavez's lack of cooperation with the IMF are the driving forces behind the US's "concern"-not democracy.
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mutus_frutex Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:04 PM
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7. Like there is no corruption here in the states.
I truly hate it when the media makes it like the US is the standard that every country should aim for and at the same time make the whole of Latin America sound like a big banana republic. Should I mention Enron, Worldcom and Tyco?

It is even more hypocritical when they make it sound like the corruption that thrives in some parts of Latin America is something independent of the US, when they have been fomenting it for decades.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:17 PM
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13. She knows whereof she speaks?
KindaSleazy lecturing our southern neighbors on corruption and social inequality... :puke:

Representing as she does a misadministration that has contributed so much to the steaming heaps of both here in 'Murica I guess that makes her an expert.

The real question is: is she for them or against them? :evilgrin:
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mutus_frutex Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:27 PM
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20. Moreover:
They are doing it after ignoring them for a term and a half. It's a total disgrace.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:12 PM
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10. Dubya Posse's Opinion About Latin Democracy
The Rulin' Dubya Posse's opinion about Latin-American democracy is that folks down there (and also here in the US, too) should be free to vote for the kleptocrats of their choice.

:argh:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:14 PM
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11. '...Venezuela has become increasingly
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 04:17 PM by xxqqqzme
authoritarian while reinforcing its alliance with Cuba...'

never miss a chance 2 take a cheap shot @ Cuba - as if Chavez didn't have a brain B4 he met Castro.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:01 PM
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12. if the people in latin america (south and central america) are smart
they will run away from the witch long before she even gets there.

if teeths were to fall for every number of lies people tell, MZ. CONTRAALTEZA LICE WOULD HAVE NO TEETH.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:23 PM
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15. Did Hugo tell her not to bother to stop by?
Fuck You Condiliar!

~snip~

After an overnight flight, Rice was to arrive Tuesday morning in Brazil, then visit Colombia, Chile and El Salvador
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:34 PM
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16. These tubes apparently believe they can force Americans to hate anyone
Americans are starting to know more people from Central and South America and are learning there's nothing about them they want to murder!

The right-wing's entire hold on the dumbest among us is through convincing them Latin American citizens are violent, wild, ungovernable, and ambitious to take us over, so we should kill them!

If they can't manage to summons enough American hatred for them (it's a lot easier to build ONE boogeyman and send people to fight HIM than it is to send soldiers to simply kill off his millions and millions of supporters) Bush is screwed.

Americans are getting more informed and eventually are going to stop dropping everything and planning to invade again, just because our right-wing has decided to seize another part of the world for itself.

Maybe Bush can concoct a reason to put a travel ban on Venezuela so we'll be kept clueless about Venezuelans, too. Then his lies might stick better.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:34 PM
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17. Oh, that'll go over really well
"Yankee Go Home" never fit better
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:04 PM
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18. She sure is full of herself these days
tearing around like a snarly snappy yappy little dog... pissing in every corner of the world.
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:23 PM
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19. It's all the U of Chicago crowd
If I recall Condoleeza obtained her PhD in Whatever It Is She Does from that vaunted institution. And I read last week that Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, the former President of Bolivia (who was run out of that country after ordering a massacre of civilians, back in 2003), gave a speech there.
Thats a criminal, taking harbor here in the USA, giving a speech with impunity at the University of Chicago.
Here is a link:
http://maroon.uchicago.edu/news/articles/2005/04/19/bolivias_former_pres.php
Notice his casual countenance, earnest demeanor. No mention of any questions in the room (a packed, standing only affair) regarding his role in the massacres of 2003.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:30 PM
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21. Uh - you mean Banana Republic
Here we fucking go again.

Too bad Negraponte's so "Busy" - they could send him back to his old stomping grounds to help out w/ the "Democracy" there too.

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