Bushes claim Illinois P.O. box as home

[MADem]

What a massive load of HORSESHIT! Sweet home, Chicago, INDEED!!!

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/auto/epaper/editions/wednesday/news_2456efcd22a1f1f0007f.html?UrAuth=`N]NUOaNTUbTTUWUXUTUZTYU\UWU_U\UZUcUcUcTYWYWZV (Free reg required)

A White House spokeswoman said the first couple lists Northern Trust, which handles their holdings, as their address for tax purposes
By Ken Herman

WASHINGTON BUREAU

Wednesday, April 20, 2005

WASHINGTON -- They've got a house in rural Texas and a nice home-office setup on Pennsylvania Avenue. But for tax purposes, President Bush and his wife, Laura, claim a Chicago post office box as their "home address."

On the 1040 they signed, which the White House released last week, the listed home address is "Northern Trust Co., P.O. Box 803968, Chicago, IL 60680."

White House spokeswoman Erin Healy said Tuesday that's because Northern Trust handles the blind trust the couple uses for their holdings since Bush took office.

"As near as I can tell, it's OK," Internal Revenue Service spokesman Tim Harms said Tuesday after shopping the residency question among several people at his agency.

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I guess it is OK for REPUBLICANS...Mitt Romney, from Utah, flouted the law and strongarmed his way into the governorship of MA, too.

I hope Texans spread this around--appparently the Kennebunckport cowboy is a Chicago wrangler, too!

[Ellen Forradalom]

1. get him the hell out of my state

Let him rent a mf'in PO Box in Alabama.

[More Than A Feeling]

2. AAAAAGH! My state is infested!

*swats wildly* get it off, get it off!

on edit: Not throwing a fit, just being silly! :silly:

[mrdmk]

16. Hell I would throw a fit, for reals! n/t

x(

[More Than A Feeling]

18. As long as Illinois is still in the first rank of the bluest of the blue

It doesn't matter where Bush thinks he lives.

[GiovanniC]

3. Does That Benefit Them In Any Material Way?

Or are we just throwing a fit over something fairly trivial?

[rzemanfl]

8. What if all 68,000 DUers rented a single post office box and used it

as the address on their next tax return? But not, of course, if they were getting a refund. First * schedules his convention so that Illinois has to change its law to put him on the ballot, then he acts like he lives there. If I lived in Illinois I'd be pretty inclined to think he's a presumptous bastard.

[GiovanniC]

10. Maybe I'm Thick-Headed Here

I still don't get the problem. I understand the problem with Cheney pretending to be from Wyoming. I don't get the thing with Bush's tax return having an Illinois address on it. Why is this a problem? Does it affect people in Illinois? Help me understand why I should be outraged... I'm good for it.

[rzemanfl]

12. I guess the point is just that he and his tax people feel he doesn't

have to follow the instructions. Just like he didn't feel that he had to consult with the nine states that had to change their laws so that the Repuke convention could be close to 9/11.

Just be angry that the dumbass exists, that's outrage enough.

[GiovanniC]

13. I'm Down With Being Pissed Off He Exists

Been there since I first laid eyes on him.

I just didn't get the problem with this... but you do, and that's what's important.

[rzemanfl]

14. Well I guess if he didn't exist, he wouldn't have filed a tax return

from anywhere. It's just his "the rules don't apply to me" arrogance that pisses me off. "I don't have to show up for the Air National Guard even though you spent a ton of money to train me to fly." "I don't have to tell you about my insider stock sales until I'm good and ready to." "I don't have to serve on a jury and disclose my DUI conviction." "I can have my party's convention when Turd Blossom says to." etc., etc., etc.

[Jim Sagle]

24. "I don't have to win an election to become President."

[Straight Shooter]

32. LOL! Good one.

I can't believe you capitalized (p)resident, though. :P

[rzemanfl]

37. I just have to hire lawyers who have the son of Justice in their

firm.

[MADem]

25. Well, they need to bounce that return off any benefit

...he received from the state of TX for his so-called ranch. Is it a primary residence, a secondary residence, or what? Did he get any rancher tax breaks? We know he cuts up brush with his little chainsaw, we know he's "got wood" but does he get any ranching benefits from the state? Perhaps Cheney is sick of faking it in WY so chimpy moves to IL so Dick can go home to TX again....!

[Ouabache]

29. methinks MADem is ON TO SOMETHING HERE - Cheney's Return

The key now is to get a look at Cheney's tax return. If he is filing from Texass again we have a winner. Also, since this is Chimp's address for taxes, DID HE PAY HIS STATE TAXES in Illinois? or somewhere else? Which state return did he file?

[LiberalFighter]

62. Bet he didn't file state tax in Illinois...

Everyone remember how his sob daddy used a Texas apartment as his residency? Why?? Cause it gave him sizeable tax advantage.

[Ravy]

64. Actually, Illinois has a state income tax, TX doesnt. Let's see if

the state of Illinois picks up on this.

[bluestateguy]

4. So I guess now we can say that the voters of his own state rejected him

Illinois was not exactly a battleground state last November.

[rzemanfl]

5. Sorry, I posted the same thing three minutes after yours. Maybe

the moderators can combine?

[musette_sf]

6. So can we assume

that a state tax return was filed for Illinois, too?

After all, there's no state tax in Texas. If they want to claim Chicago as "home", wouldn't they have to file IL state taxes?

:patriot:

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

7. didn't poppy use a houston hotel as his residence

to avoid some taxes?

[NYC]

22. It was a Resolution Trust property.

Re S&L. You're correct, no state income tax.

[rainbow4321]

39. Yep..Houston hotel room n/t

[UpInArms]

9. I wish they lived in a box

a very small box, similar to a post office box.

Then we could nail the lid down tight and they could never come out and hurt anyone else ever again.

[WhiteTara]

34. tiny and airless! eom

[wakeme2008]

11. He did pay Il state income tax right

ya right.

[wicket]

15. Ugh, so lame!

:banghead: :banghead:

[katinmn]

17. ooohh. They should be scared. The IRS is cracking down

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7467066/

By Tom Costello
Correspondent
NBC News
April 12, 2005
There’s a new, bolder Internal Revenue Service. As Americans submit their 1040s this year, the IRS is planning more audits and more criminal prosecutions of anyone trying to hide money from Uncle Sam.
-snip-
yeah, whatever....

[laylah]

20. Won't affect the

MF in Chief :mad:

Jenn

[laylah]

19. OMG...

what a couple of :puke: s...God/dess forgive me, I HATE that man. Never in my entire 53 years have I ever felt this way towards another human being.

Get the hell out of my state, you fraud!

Jenn

[spacelady]

30. Ya know what, in my entire 43 years

I have never viscerally, emotionally and any other "ally" hated an individual in this manner and I do not say this lightly publically.


edit to say I got caught up in a rythym & took liberties with the language; really wanted to say BLLEEECCCHHH!!!

[bpilgrim]

21. can any american do this?

can i get a po box in the caymans?

peace

[FloridaPat]

23. What tax purposes? Texas has no state income tax and Illinois does.

Feds don't care either way.

[stevebreeze]

28. Very true, IL has a 3.5% income tax...

It is also worth noting that Daddy Bush claimed to live in TX, at a hotel room, even though all his off time was spent in Kinibunkport.

[Paula Sims]

26. VERY INTERESTING!

Northern Trust is a VERY exclusive VERY upscale bank that specializes in trusts (big surprise). In fact, it's more a trust company for the VERY rich with a little banking thrown in on the side to appeal to the every day man and not attract notoriety. All the local lottery winners set up trusts at Northern Trust and it's known for taking care of it's clients VERY well and high secrecy.

Doesn't surprise me but that they put it as their address could be interesting. I'm questioning the legality of that (yea, like they're going to be audited). I thought Texas was his legal home state. Can anyone check what they put down in prior years?

Paula

[not systems]

27. Maybe Laura Bush will run for Illinois's senate seat. n/t

[Spangle]

31. State Return?

I want to know about his State Return?

[Horse with no Name]

33. Very curious

Considering the Texans don't have to pay state taxes.
I am assuming that Illinois has a state tax but doesn't that seem a little strange that he would file in a state that has a tax when he could file in a state that doesn't.
There must be some type of tax breaks that Illinois offers that Texas doesn't.

[Mr.Soul]

35. Um

I am generally down with slamming Bush on various subjects, but a lot of people do this.

If one has a lot of holdings and have an accountant will be set up with a po box for just the same purpose.

I would do it if I had the bucks, not sure what the big deal is.

I will see you on the boards regarding DeLay and Bolton as that is real news.

[Megahurtz]

61. I just see it as a form of "using"

if you know what I mean. Lots of people do this to escape liabilities and avoid monetary debts.

How would you like it if someone owed you money and did this type of tactic to avoid paying you?

With these Busheisters who knows what the fuck they're really doing.

[benburch]

36. I Dare him to retire here.

We will have a CONSTANT picket on his place of retirement.

[LiberalFighter]

63. Anyone see an episode where some strange guy collected all of his urine??

Don't know if it was a Law and Order or CSI show...
but if a good use could be found for all of that urine...

such as depositing on gw*dipshits property

[rainbow4321]

38. Bush Sr used a TX hotel address...

I vaguely remember it being reported that he used a Houston hotel suite address as HIS primary residence when he was in office..TX being the land of no state income tax.

edit:

Here is a link...not where I initially saw it but this is what was googled:

http://bushwatch.org/family.htm

1991
George Bush spends three nights in a Houston hotel so he can claim Texas residency. Texas has no income tax.

[Moderator]

40. kick

[nedbal]

41. For Bush, home is a box in Chicago

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2027&ncid=2027&e=4&u=/chitribts/20050422/ts_chicagotrib/forbushhomeisaboxinchicago


Home is not the White House, and home is not the range of his Crawford, Texas, ranch.

Post Office Box 803968, Chicago, IL 60680, that is--according to the 2004 federal income tax return that Bush filed this spring, just like returns the president has filed every year since his election.

"If you have a P.O. Box, see Page 16," the 1040 form advises. Page 16 is pretty clear: "Enter your box number only if your post office does not deliver mail to your home."

[Cadfael]

42. I heard this on the WGN radio news this morning

I couldn't believe my ears! :wtf:

[Dover]

43. Why a box? Wasn't there a penitentiary that would take him?

They should make a special rubber room for georgie, and charge admission.

[MindPilot]

44. silly poster -- rules are for little people

:sarcasm:

[latebloomer]

45. A cardboard box!

If only!

[Stinky The Clown]

46. I'd prefer it were "the hole" at Leavenworth

But that's just me ........

[wtbymark]

47. damnit

i could think of plenty of boxes that would be better

[rodeodance]

48. he pays no taxes in either TX or Chicago--looky here

....Bush's legal residence is in Texas, which has no state income tax. He pays no state taxes in Illinois because he doesn't live in the state.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

49. Does he give up his homestead exemption in Texas

since it's not his primary residence?

[Dover]

50. Sooooooooo.....what's IN this blind trust anyway, hmmmm?

Stolen loot from the U.S. treasury perhaps?

[Scairp]

51. This is legal?

Any tax attorneys out there? How can someone claim they live in one state when the whole fucking world knows they live in another?! I don't get it. I guess it's just another exception only for Repukes.

[leftchick]

56. apparently in the Capitalist Country Of the US ( CCUS)

If you are extremely rich you are invited and entitled to hide your money anyfuckingwayyouwant! With the help and blessings of the CCUS! :grr:

[Name removed]

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[54anickel]

54. Ewww...

That'll get you on somebody's list!

[Julius Civitatus]

53. I'm sure Cheney's address is a PO Box in the Cayman Islands

addressed to "Haliburton."

[crispini]

55. Wasn't someone posting

about a poop-o-gram you can send?

I vote we fill up his POB with poop! :evilgrin:

[rainbow4321]

57. His TX "ranch" tax breaks are a joke

From a thread written a while back in the TX forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=180&topic_id=8574&mesg_id=8653

Last year (2004) the Lone Star Trust (aka chimpy) saved $24,561 by the use of ag/timber evaluations.

The 1577.22 acre "ranch" has a market value of $1,282,879. The combined property tax rate is a very cheap $2.12014 per $100. That's a potential tax of $27,198.83.

However with an ag/timber use value of $124,389, the property tax was $2637.22.

Big savings for farmerchimpy and the Lone Star Trust.

The McLennen County Appraisal District shows the Crawford "ranch" is made up 80 acres of dryland cropland, 450 acres of improved pasture and 1047.22 acres of native pasture.

Dryland cropland means crops without irrigation. Wonder if that tree farm is 80 acres?

Improved pasture is "improved" grasses that make cows fatter. To qualify for this category, in the last five of seven years you need to have cut hay or have had some cattle, horses or emu walking around and pooping to the average agricultural intensity of the area.

[icymist]

68. Oh my. That's the adress he filed since 2000?

I wonder if he gets any junk mail?

[WestMichRad]

58. They should put him in that box

... and throw away the key.

:woohoo:

(with apologies to Illinois)

[Megahurtz]

59. What a slimy, sneaky, sleazy, crooked

Busheister bunch. It's apparent they changed all the tax laws just for themselves!!!

:puke:THIEVES!!!:argh:

[Booster]

60. And Cheney used Halliburton's address as his home address.

on his Texas driver's license, as did his wife. If any of us "little people" tried this shit, we would be denied, guaranteed. I just don't understand anything anymore.

[darkism]

65. Get out of MY state, you imperialist genocidal fuck!

[icymist]

66. Illinois has a state income tax. Wouldn't he have to file that also?

The last time I filed a state income tax for the wonderful state of Illinois (1992) there was lots and lots of lengthly worded questions they wanted about finances. I don't see what advantage is in doing this.

[moondust]

67. Jerk-In-The-Box.

Stuff him in it and close the lid.