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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:57 PM
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10 years after terror, radical right still a threat
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 01:01 PM by RedEarth
NEW YORK - Although it’s been 10 years since the Oklahoma City bombing, and no similar attacks have occurred on U.S. soil, experts who follow the extreme radical right say they still pose a serious threat of domestic terrorism.

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But certain groups — such as the militia movement which gained widespread publicity in the mid-1990s — have declined, while others, such as hate groups, seem to be thriving. And while the top three neo-Nazi groups have suffered reversals in recent years, their troubles may actually increase the risk of domestic terrorism, said Mark Potok, who monitors right-wing militants for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Those who follow the violent right-wing movement in the United States break it down into two broad groups — the anti-government Patriot movement, with which Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was associated, and hate groups such as the neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan, although membership in both groups often overlaps. (RedEarth....Terry Nichols brother was and still is part of the Michigan Militia)

"When we say 'Patriot movement,' we mean groups who are desperately anti-government, and very involved in conspiracy theories such as the U.N. is going to take over the U.S.," Potok said. The Patriot movement's fears were heightened when federal agents' attempt to serve arrest and search warrants for illegal weapons at the Branch Davidian compound at Waco, Texas, turned into a shootout, a 51-day standoff, and finally an assault, on April 19, 1993, that ended with 84 men, women and children killed. "That was seen as showing the extent to which the 'fascist federal government' will go to stop guns," said Potok.

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But from the hard-core neo-Nazi groups, Sept. 11 brought applause -- for al-Qaida. "This was an attack on Jew York City," Potok said. "The head of one of the neo-Nazi movements wrote an e-mail saying, in essence, 'We may not want them marrying our daughters, but anyone willing to fly an airplane into a building to kill Jews is all right with me.'"




http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7408353/
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:00 PM
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1. I logged in from work on lunch just to kick this thread
Why is it that domestic terrorism comes from the radical right?

Come to think of it, most terror attacks are right wingnuts. Only thing that varies is the religion.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:06 PM
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2. Many terrorists are right wing fundamentalist types.
It seems to be considered that liberalism equals terrorism though.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:07 PM
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3. I don't know why they WOULD still be so pissed off at the gubmint...
....seeing how the Bush administration has co-opted most of their agenda.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:42 PM
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7. My sociology proffessor last year claimed that they support Bush
For his opposition to gun control.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:09 PM
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4. It has been 12 years since the first bombing of the WTC....
...the problem was not new as of September 11, 2001 and yet here we are in 2005 and Bush has really done noting to make our American cities and borders and travel any safer from terrorists, just a lot more inconvenient and time consuming. Oh, we all know the following colors now:

red
orange
yellow
blue
green

That's two additional intervals of alertness than most of us have had since early childhood (traffic singles), not no greater sense of security.

(Note: Had I given this response on the new SAT essay section without spell-checker, I would have had three spelling errors.)
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:24 PM
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5. Gummint BAAAD. Gummint gotta die.
Shove it down the throat of the government haters: these people are the spirit of your belief. It's the fuck-everybody-else attitude of the libertarian/individualist spirit taken to an extreme, and it's not so far from the "mainstream" conservative attitude of late.

People who don't like society shouldn't be a part of it. When they take the advantages of roads, laws, airwaves and other agreements reached by those of us who WILL pitch in and be part of something bigger than themselves, they're assholes. People who don't like society should live in a cave, never drive, forage for themselves and avoid all members of society whenever possible.

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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:49 PM
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9. They out to be made to build their own weapons too.
Pro-gun and anti society don't quite work.
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inchhigh Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:35 PM
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6. experts who follow the extreme radical right ....
say they still pose a serious.

Wow. Do we really need to be reminded? Should we ever have been allowed to forget?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 07:50 PM
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13. no never forget
and welcome to DU. :hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:45 PM
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8. And let's see, extreme radical left-types camp themselves out in
the tops of trees, chain themselves to the fences around nuclear reactors and missile silos, take motorboats out to interfere with big whaling ships, and throw paint on some rich lady's fur coat.

When you put our extremists up against theirs, I'll take ours ANY DAY.
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youspeakmylanguage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:06 PM
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10. Just to be fair...
...there are a few left-wing extremists that commit arson and other serious crimes, putting lives in jeopardy.

But you're right - our extremists are much less dangerous than the ones on the other side.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:29 PM
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12. I have a feeling that many of those acts committed
by so-called left-wing extremists are in fact committed by bushbots and jaysuz freaks.
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:22 PM
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11. Just like BTK....Republican Extremist
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:45 AM
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14. I have read several articles stating how the gov. is ignoring these groups
They have environmental groups suspected of blowing up gas guzzlers or burning developments are on terrorist watch lists but RW groups who have actually killed and advocate murder are totally ignored. This scares the hell out of me. I am not saying anyone who does things like that should overlooked. I am saying go after all of those who commit violence and go harder on those who hurt people than those who hurt property.
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