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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:20 AM Original message |
Cheney says he'd break tie to curtail use of filibusters |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. dickie didn't have to tell us what he'd do, we know! |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. Can't we get a Judge |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Nope. It is just a Senate Rule. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It's actually not clear whether courts have jurisdiction. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Excellent appraisal. |
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CAMANY (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Err that's actually not what would happen |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I think TahitiNut is essentially right. Rule XXII explicitly states ... |
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CAMANY (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Nope you're wrong |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. The Constitution says the Congressional houses can make their ... |
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Clark Bayh 2008 (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. It's time to let these 10 judges go through & save the filibuster |
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bearfan454 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. No way. n/t |
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Debs (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. If they are making the argument the rule is unconstitutional |
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Clark Bayh 2008 (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Schumer discussed this yesterday on TV |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. This Senate rule itself explicitly says that a 2/3 vote is required ... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. The Constitution give the Senate the power to determine its rules |
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kurtyboy (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. The Courts have no jurisdiction, the issue is not "justiciable" |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. A pretty good article - points out that the gop has used the filibuster in |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. OT but, what would happen if dickie croaked? |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Hastert? I need to do a search on that one, I've seen it answered on DU |
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hedda_foil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Hastert. Speaker of the House is next in line. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Vice President Jeb Bush |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Can't happen... |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. But, but...the laws don't *apply* to the BFEE!!! Remember? n/t |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
55. And the laws that DO, Repugs plan on changing SOON by electing ALL judges |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
64. What does BFEE mean? I'm having a senior moment here. |
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bearfan454 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. bush family empire of evil n/t |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Ah yes! Thank you Thank you Thank you! |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. VP isn't a cabinet position |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I think I just threw up in my mouth, a little. Sooooo plausible. n/t |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Sounds a lot like the Saddam Hussein and his two sons theme.. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. that would be usay |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. right, thanks...... n/t |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. And of course Hastert would have to resign from the House |
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CAMANY (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Have you honestly never read the US constitution? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
59. . |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
67. I second Blue State Native. |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
6. assume the "Nuke option" succeeds |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The fix is in -- no more Democratic majorities |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. You may be right! |
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quiet_please (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Keep something in mind... |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. EXACTLY!!!!! |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. I think you are right! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. If the Rs pull the "nuclear option," then, when next out of power ... |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. Reid is toast if he cannot hold all the Dems. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. So You've Already Decided To Trash Reid Before Anything Happens |
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Chomskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Oh, he'll hold em all right on this one. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. WE may be toast if he can't hold all the Dems. nt |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. Before the DEMOCRATS started using the filibuster? |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. What is the history of the filibuster? When did it start? How? Who? Why? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. This gives a brief history |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. "Filibusters were particularly useful to southern senators..." |
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DemBeans (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. of course Cheney would back the move |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. te he -maybe someone will lock him in his bunker?? |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
58. What RW thuggery WOULDN'T Cheney back? |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. Is this a polite of way saying, "Go fuck yourself"? |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. "Go fuck yourself" |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
17. How many votes do they actually need? I'm confused. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. According to Senate rule XXII, |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. what would be a riot is if they passed it then lost in 2006 |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. The mere fact it's called the "nuclear option" ought to give people a clue |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
22. this work needs to burn in some sort of rich man's hell...I hate him. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
25. And when the Democrats retake control of the Senate . . . |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
30. Good luck with that, DICK. |
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Chomskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. They're inching us closer to our briar patch, aren't they? |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I love that analogy! Perfect description of what it looks like Harry Reid |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
36. Funny how non-elected persons love to fuck over democracy! |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. Dean, Reid &others must do everything they can to take down Frist in'06 |
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Daphne08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. One Theocratic Oligarchy coming up! |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
56. There is a simple countermove to this --> tag team talkathon |
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Clark Bayh 2008 (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. The senate can change its rules with a majority vote w/ the nuclear option |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Dem Senators must stand and fight, somewhere |
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malmapus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
62. Can't say I'm surprised to hear this one |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Even if it does bite them in 2006, we'd still have to own the voting |
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The White Tree (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
71. Wow - Do you think they'll actually write the rule change that way |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
72. Bwahaha! I love it when repukes eat their own. |
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naderzenithnow (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. Shultz is a right wing asshole in liberal drag trying to move the |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. and his point is what |
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