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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:17 PM
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Senators May Have Blown Cover of CIA Agent
Senators May Have Blown Cover of CIA Agent
By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer

Monday, April 11, 2005


(04-11) 17:29 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --


Mr. Smith came to Washington again Monday, as an alias for a Central Intelligence Agency officer who works covertly. Senators, however, may have blown his cover.


During questioning on John R. Bolton's nomination to be President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, Bolton and members of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee referred to "Mr. Smith" as one official among several who were involved in a dispute over what Democrats asserted was Bolton's inappropriate treatment of an intelligence analyst who disagreed with him.


"We referred to this other analyst at the CIA, whom I'll try and call Mr. Smith here, I hope I can keep that straight," Bolton said at one point.


Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., both mentioned a name, Fulton Armstrong, that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

more...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/04/11/national/w172934D43.DTL
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:19 PM
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1. he's pretty easy to find on google
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:21 PM
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3. And God said "Let there be Google and let there be Lexis-Nexis."
Good work.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:23 PM
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7. (insertdeityofyourchoicehere) bless the internets!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:25 PM
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8. Thank GORE he 'INVENTED' the INTERNET's! ;->
is what i always say :evilgrin:

peace
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:39 PM
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15. LOL. No Gore invented the Internet. Dim Texas son is the one that
that thought that there were many internets.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:59 PM
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45. "Senators didn't 'blow' CIA agent's cover" story on WorldNetDaily
Senators didn't 'blow' CIA agent's cover
Contrary to AP story, name previously cited several times

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43759

AP faux-reporter Anne Gearan owes the public an apology !
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:10 PM
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50. Them internets is where they post them ex-agger-ations. n/t
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:22 PM
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4. "He earned his B.S. in Linguistics..."
:rofl:

This guy's one of the masterminds behind Reagan's forrays into Latin America. :grr:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:35 PM
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48. Whereas W earned his BS in BS. (eom)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:29 PM
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10. They list the current personnel here, too
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:30 PM
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11. Something of interest in the Bolton v. Armstrong thing...
http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/index.php?id=535

is mentioned and Insight magazine owned by Washington Times. If I remember correctly, Washington Times was instrumental in making the information about Osama bin Laden's use of satellite phones 'common knowledge' in the media...thus forewarning him of our NSA's surveillance.

With friends like these, who needs enemies ?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:49 PM
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43. chimpsrsmarter, you've inadvertently exposed another Judith Miller-faux
Faux-reporting seems to be all the rage. When 'cover' stories need to be foisted upon an uninformed populace, you can count on Operation Mockingbird to come through. Judith Miller's WMD fabrications, the Gannon/Guckerts, Armstrong Williams etc etc etc.

The parade of disinformation is getting a bit thick in our never-ending war on truth, ooops, terror.

Will we just have another Elizabeth Bumiller 'journalistic fellatio' artiste to look out for now ? Anne what's-her-name from Associated Press. Looks like they just gave her the title 'diplomatic reporter' recently too. Nice touch.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:19 PM
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2. Self delete. This was apparently common knowledge. n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-11-05 08:22 PM by rzemanfl
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:23 PM
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5. So since the media FUCKED up the Plame scoop so bad
They're going to go absolutely overboard on this one, is that it?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:23 PM
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6. The real problem Bolton has is he perjured himself today.
He repeatedly stated he didn't try to have the analyst fired but when confronted by Sen Dodd he stated he tried to have him reassigned from his job. Looks like we're going to have to get that definition of "is" is out again.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:26 PM
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9. Oh, come on
Perjury is only important when Bill Clinton lies about his penis.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:35 PM
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12. If there were really any problem with 'exposing' an agent you'd think Agee
would have done it by now !
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:45 PM
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13. Speaking of 'blowing cover', who is Anne Gearan, and who owns
Associated Press ? We know about Sun Myung Moon's UPI, but what kind of story planting could AP be capable of ?


AP and its history at
http://www.ap.org/pages/about/history/history_third.html

and

Operation Mockingbird and its journalism assets mention AP
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 09:34 PM
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14. Seems like he is an analyst, not a cover op.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:27 PM
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16. Ah...the set up to excuse themselves from Plame.."well, everybody
does it, even Kerry" I can hear them now. Was he a counter terrorist deep cover guy like Plame was?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:40 AM
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17. kick to combine
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:40 AM
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18. Senators May Have Blown Cover of CIA Agent
Mr. Smith came to Washington again Monday, as an alias for a Central Intelligence Agency officer who works covertly. Senators, however, may have blown his cover.

During questioning on John R. Bolton's nomination to be President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, Bolton and members of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee referred to "Mr. Smith" as one official among several who were involved in a dispute over what Democrats asserted was Bolton's inappropriate treatment of an intelligence analyst who disagreed with him.

"We referred to this other analyst at the CIA, whom I'll try and call Mr. Smith here, I hope I can keep that straight," Bolton said at one point.

Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., both mentioned a name, Fulton Armstrong, that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050412/ap/d89dhct00.html
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:40 AM
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19. No one seems to care about Plame's outing, so...
I guess there won't be any problem with this possible outing... right?

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:40 AM
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21. Drudge does...but, of course, his headline blames Kerry
What an asshat.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:40 AM
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20. kerry wiLL be investigated
and charged for outing the covert operative.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:04 AM
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22. kick to combine
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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23. Senators May Have Blown Cover of CIA Agent (Lugar & Kerry)
I listened to it yesterday but apparently missed this.

Hold on --they are going to ride this like a rented mule.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4930339,00.html


WASHINGTON (AP) - Mr. Smith came to Washington again Monday, as an alias for a Central Intelligence Agency officer who works covertly. Senators, however, may have blown his cover.

During questioning on John R. Bolton's nomination to be President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, Bolton and members of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee referred to ``Mr. Smith'' as one official among several who were involved in a dispute over what Democrats asserted was Bolton's inappropriate treatment of an intelligence analyst who disagreed with him.

Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., both mentioned a name, Fulton Armstrong, that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

In questioning Bolton, Kerry read from a transcript of closed-door interviews that committee staffers conducted with State Department officials prior to Monday's hearing.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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24. Dupe. See thread below.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3467069

It takes five seconds on Google to debunk this nonsense 9not that that means anything to these guys).
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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26. I was just going to post that link
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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28. Sorry. Not necessarily a "dupe" since you posted a separate article.
I think it's great that we respond so rapidly to nonsense like this. Hopefully, that translates to a quick slapdown of it by the (few) liberal voices in the media.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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30. I meant this as more of a heads up
The GD thread says that it looked (at least last night) that the RW noise machine was going to go into top gear on this. I just wanted people to be aware.
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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25. But they will only mention Kerry of course.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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27. Bullshit.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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29. As posted in the GD thread-Do you really think that will stop them?
Yeah this one got debunked lightning quick
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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31. Senators May Have Blown Cover of CIA Agent
Tuesday April 12, 2005 1:31 AM


By ANNE GEARAN

AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Mr. Smith came to Washington again Monday, as an alias for a Central Intelligence Agency officer who works covertly. Senators, however, may have blown his cover.

During questioning on John R. Bolton's nomination to be President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, Bolton and members of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee referred to ``Mr. Smith'' as one official among several who were involved in a dispute over what Democrats asserted was Bolton's inappropriate treatment of an intelligence analyst who disagreed with him.

``We referred to this other analyst at the CIA, whom I'll try and call Mr. Smith here, I hope I can keep that straight,'' Bolton said at one point.

Committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., both mentioned a name, Fulton Armstrong, that had not previously come up in public accounts of the intelligence flap.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4930339,00.html
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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32. Bullshit...The NIO positions and personnel are all listed on the CIA's...
...website:
http://www.cia.gov/nic/NIC_personnel.html

For example, Joanna Wallace is the current NIO for Latin America (the position in question that Fulton Armstrong held until 2003):



Joanna Wallace (Acting)
National Intelligence Officer for Latin America

Joanna Wallace has served with the National Intelligence Council since October 2003. Previously Ms. Wallace served as a Director for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the National Security Council (2000-2003).

Since 1973, Ms. Wallace has served in a variety of analytical and managerial positions covering Latin America. She also has served with the CIA's Office of Legislative Liaison and as a manager and instructor in intelligence analysis and management training programs.

Ms. Wallace earned her B.A. from the University of Redlands, an M.A. in Latin American Studies from California State University Los Angeles, and an M.A. in Economics from George Mason University.


If this sort of information is supposed to be secret, why does the CIA post it on it's website?

The Right Wing Noise Machine is trying to create another scandal out of thin air and spit.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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35. He is all over thw WWW
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5585.htm

<snip>Put it this way, with this White House, I see an outright pattern of bullying: Gen. Eric Shinseki, the former Army chief of staff, warned that the U.S. was going to need several hundred thousand troops in Iraq, and he's attacked for that, and basically told that he doesn't know what he's talking about -- and he's fired essentially a year before he's out of that job. When it's time for him to retire, not a single senior representative of the Department of Defense or White House leadership is there for his retirement. Then there was Thomas White, the secretary of the Army who was forced out. There was a senior CIA analyst by the name of Fulton Armstrong who was attacked, using leaks to the press, which alleged that he was disloyal and somehow under the influence of the Cuban government. There was a prosecutor the Department of Justice who had warned that John Walker Lindh's father had hired a lawyer and that (the DOJ) needed to consider the Miranda rights.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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36. Yes indeed, create one out of nothing
When they have literally dozens of scandals from which to choose from anywhere IN this mis-administration**. :argh:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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33. concern over outing CIA agents?
that is so pre-post-reality-based.

It's okay to do that now.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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34. Plame indictments are coming this is Smoke to try to cover
that up. This is the mirror, repukes can't have done anything different or worse than the dems, look what Kerry did with Armstrong, reflect their crimes on to us, our guys.

SMOKE & MIRRORS

Plame indictments are coming. :bounce:

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woosh Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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38. When?
I'm glad I haven't held my breath.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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39. Don't know when, but that is why this bogus attack
It is their effort to deflect from their crimes by saying -- dems do it and get away with it.

It is their way of working, the spin they spin so well.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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40. I Think You're Spot On.....
it gives the Hannity's, Rush's, Novak's, Coulter's etc. of the world something to use to deflect from the furor of the coming indictments over Plame.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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41. Kind of like they did with Sandy Berger
"I know you are, but what am I" mentality.

What infuriates me the most or those that say, "Sure there was election fraud on the part of the repukes, but dems did it in 1960 or do it all the time, so what" So what, its a damned crime!

:argh:

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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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37. His name has
been known for a while. The senate didn't out him. Though kinda fun to watch the hypocrites try to spin this one while Novak who did out a CIA agent sits running his mouth on tv still.



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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:05 AM
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42. Debunked yesterday
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 02:54 PM
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44. Again, I ask, who is Anne Gearan ...AP diplomatic reporter and how
did she manage to mangle this non-story ? Looking more and more like Judith Miller style Operation Mockingbird media manipulation payola/payoffsforphoneyintell storylines.

One more story like this and you'd think Democrats would be demanding investigations.... You'd think.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 05:22 PM
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49. Complain to them, demand a retraction.
I did! Info@ap.org -- takes just a second!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 08:29 PM
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51. Olbermann featured this imbroglio this evening
Ripped it to shreds with his characteristic wit--nailed the AP big time, along with the rightwing kneejerkers!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:01 PM
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46. I'm sure it's been mentioned but if you look at Drudge, he singles out
John Kerry attempting to smear him. Asshole.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 05:34 PM
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52. The assholes are outting themselves. Druge, Gearan, Novak...eom
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:59 PM
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47. Apparently
outing CIA agents is no big deal else something would have been done regarding Valerie Plame......... :shrug:
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