Historic parallels as DeLay's woes deepen

[UpInArms]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0412/p02s01-uspo.html

WASHINGTON – The gap between what House Republicans say on the record about their embattled leader Tom DeLay and what they say in private is wide but narrowing.

In public, most Republicans say that what's driving the criticism of the House majority leader is politics, not ethics. The Democratic "hit machine" is pouring millions into a campaign to oust the most powerful Republican in Congress. But the real target is the Republican majority and its agenda.

But in private, some senior leaders are saying it's only a matter of time before the most powerful Republican in Congress is forced from office. "Democrats should save their money. Why murder someone who is committing suicide?" said a senior GOP lawmaker, on condition of anonymity.

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While the "gathering storm" has yet to hit local conservative talk radio as it has the national news media, there are also signs that the ethics allegations are beginning to rankle the GOP's conservative base. "Personal ethics are very important to the average evangelical," says the Rev. Richard Cizik, vice president of governmental affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals. "When a person is seen to profit from their political connections, it doesn't speak well for that individual."

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[Beetwasher]

1. "Why murder someone who is committing suicide"

Ha Ha!

[Kagemusha]

2. Because until he's dead he still has his gun and can take you with him.

He asked...

[Pacifist Patriot]

5. Excellent point.

And for that very reason I have no problem with the democrats spending money to help expedite his exit from political life.

[damntexdem]

11. Especially if he brings down other GOP conservaties with him.

Which is why they're worried about him in the first place.

[saigon68]

22. Drive the stake through dracula delay's heart.

No mercy for this thug

[yorgatron]

4. we're pouring millions into this?

i doubt it.
the pubs would love to see him gone at this point.
you've outlived your usefulness bugman.

[Pacifist Patriot]

3. I continue to find it puzzling that so many have bought into

the notion that the conservative evangelics form the base of the GOP. They are a noisy arm, but they aren't the base of the GOP. This misconception could very well be the GOPs downfall. Misidentify your base and cater to the wrong interests and you'll find your true base sliding out from underneath you.

[loudsue]

6. Shhhhhh.....be vewy, vewy qwiet.....

Don't tell 'em! Let 'em slide! :woohoo: :applause:

[rocktivity]

24. Right, Loudsue--Go, GOP, go!

Keep alienating those moderates! You set the bar with Terri Schiavo's freeper Jesus freak show, and you're following it up beautifully! Go, GOP team, go! Rah Rah Rah!


rocknation

[Lone_Star_Dem]

8. I continue to wonder about that myself.

There seems to be a strong belief that if they cater to the screaming minority the silent majority will still follow. That is not always the case. You would think the polls after the Schiavo ordeal would have driven that point home.

[damntexdem]

12. Shh, scream very, very quietly ...

we don't want them to catch on to the obvious.

[Jazzgirl]

13. No, no....it's

vewy, vewy quietly..... :evilgrin:

[CottonBear]

7. James Carville said "if your enemy is drowning, don't throw him

a life vest, throw him an anvil."

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

9. What's this "Democratic hit-machine"?????

Do they talk about rove's "HIT MACHINE"!!??


I was reading something on about Dems and the gropennator in San Francisco and they called the Dems.."giddy" at the prospect of ousting arnie!

Do the repubs get called "giddy" by msm?

"While the "gathering storm" has yet to hit local conservative talk radio as it has the national news media, there are also signs that the ethics allegations are beginning to rankle the GOP's conservative base. "Personal ethics are very important to the average evangelical," says the Rev. Richard Cizik, vice president of governmental affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals. "When a person is seen to profit from their political connections, it doesn't speak well for that individual."

How long has this taken?

[NJCher]

20. Washington Post did

Do the repubs get called "giddy" by msm?

It was slightly before the 2002 elections and they described the repukes as being positively "giddy" over their prospects for a win.


Cher

[cosmicdot]

27. that stood out for me, too

there were a couple of other things in Gail Russell Chaddock, Staff writer, 'article' ...
http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/encryptmail.pl?ID=C7E1E9ECA0D2F5F3F3E5ECECA0C3E8E1E4E4EFE3EB&url=/2005/0412/p02s01-uspo.html

who in the dickens is she gathering content from?
did she talk to anyone further to the left than a "former conservative activist now with the Democratic Leadership Council."??

what is "a senior GOP lawmaker"?

if it's an elected official, should he/she be speaking to the press on 'condition of anonymity'?

[damntexdem]

10. It's not that personal ethics are important to the Religious Right --

but the spinnable appearance of personal ethics is.

[warrens]

14. Heh, I was at a convention this weekend and was seated with...

A fundie from Utah. This guy was the perfect slick, self-righteous prick with a phony smile and an american flag lapel. I have no idea how, but we're all eating lunch and he brought the topic around to Clinton and morality and how Democrats violate every one of his values and immorality and blah blah blah. I had a bad case of the flu and was just going to let it go, but finally he went too far.

I said, I suppose that lying us into a war that killed this guy's nephew (I pointed at a guy at the table who I didn't even know) plus 1600 more of our kids, and tens of thousands of innocent civilians strikes you as moral? Yeah, cheating on your wife is WORSE than murdering a hundred thousand? You people are a trip. Oh, and how's your lying skank DeLay doing? You call that phoney Christian MORAL?

he was getting red in the face until I brought up Delay. Suddenly he shut up and said, I knew I shouldn't have brought up politics.

Damn, a clean knock-out. Later he came up and shook my hand. I was not too happy about even talking to the fuck, but what the hell, it's business...

I think DeLay is their Achilles heel. They have no way to defend him.
Even Newtie is sticking the knife through the ribs. Remember, Delay is the one who behind the scenes got him booted. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[PsN2Wind]

15. I hope you coughed into that hand

before you shook his.

[UpInArms]

17. thanks for sharing

hope you're feeling better now :)

and I'm with PsN2Wind, I hoped you coughed before you shook :evilgrin:

[madmom]

16. I believe in overkill n/t

[Voltaire99]

18. Hee hee -- nice post. (n/t)

[Voltaire99]

19. "Why murder someone who is committing suicide?" said a sr. GOP lawmaker.

Answer: it's more fun to share. ;-)

[dbt]

21. Anybody actually SEEN that "Democratic hit machine?"

Funny that it would roar to life now after being utterly silent for the past three elections.

[Zhade]

23. People are slowly waking up - they won't fall for the spin.

Hell, I had a totally apolitical guy mention that "China would own us soon", economically, while in the break room at work.

[wicket]

25. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

This is getting good! :rofl:

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. Apparently the kiss of death was the standing ovation he received

last week at the Congress. It's equivalent to being supported "1000%."