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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:44 AM
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Santorum: DeLay Needs to Answer Questions
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 11:45 AM by NNN0LHI
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&ncid=716&e=3&u=/ap/20050410/ap_on_go_co/delay

WASHINGTON - The No. 3 Republican in the Senate said Sunday that embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay needs to answer questions about his ethics and "let the people then judge for themselves."


Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record)'s comments seem to reflect the nervousness among congressional Republicans about the fallout from the increased scrutiny into DeLay's way of doing business.


DeLay, R-Texas, has been dogged in recent months by reports of possible ethics violations. There have been questions about his overseas travel, campaign payments to family members and his connections to lobbyists who are under investigation.


"I think he has to come forward and lay out what he did and why he did it and let the people then judge for themselves," said Santorum, chairman of the Senate Republican Conference.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:45 AM
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1. I smell toast
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:46 AM
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2. Burnt toast at that
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:48 AM
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4. BURNT toast!
To have one fundie repug dress-down another means DeLay is not long for this political world...:thumbsup:
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:50 AM
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7. Oh how SWEET it is !!!
Yippee!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:46 AM
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3. Answer questions?
Posed by an independent investigator in front of the House on the record? Is that what you mean Santorum? I didn't think so.

Answering questions = lies.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:48 AM
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6. Lies are good
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 11:49 AM by NNN0LHI
Its usually not the crime that brings these scum down but rather the cover up.

Don

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:55 AM
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9. I hope so
No better place for Bugman than jail. At least he knows a skill - they can put him to work as the inmate exterminator.
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The Icon Painter Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:48 PM
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36. Wha..?
They exterminate the inmates? Well, maybe in Texas...
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:53 PM
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37. LOL
I didn't word that right! I meant he'd be an inmate AND their exterminator! :rofl:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:48 AM
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5. Isn't Blaming The Librul Media DeLay's Answer
to all his unethical dealings?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:07 PM
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11. It doesn't work
Chris Shays, who might have been called a liberal Republican or Rockefeller Republican many years ago, has broken with DeLay. That's bad enough.

When Senator Santorum, more ideologically aligned with DeLay, talks like this, then there is no credibility to saying this is about partisan politics. This is about sleaze, something of which anybody of any political stripe may be guilty. Dan Rostenkowski and Edwin Edwards were examples of sleazy Democrats of the recent past. There's no reason for anybody to defend them; both did or are doing time in federal pens.

It is now untenable for anybody to defend DeLay. There is too much out in the public and his own defense is basically that he's done nothing illegal, not so much that everything he's done is ethical or right. If that's his best defense, he should tell it to the judge.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:51 AM
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8. WOW! The fundies are eating one of their own... their version
of reality TV politics is pretty good as serio-comedic farce.
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

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Indykatie Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:57 AM
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10. Rats Jumping Ship
The repubs know that there is plenty more dirt out there on Delay and that it's bound to surface. Can't wait to see if his lobbyist buddy spills the beans to save his own hide. This is getting good!!!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:11 PM
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12. Not abandoning ship
Just throwing the rat overboard.

It would be naive to believe that ship could be sunk that easily.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:13 PM
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13. DeLay needs to be in prison
It puts sanctimonious hypocrites in a hard place when they preach morality and then have to defend a sleazebucket like DeLay. It'll be interesting to see if other right-wing "morals" Republicans start abandoning the sinking DeLay ship.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:27 PM
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14. Seems like Senator (R) John Cornyn is right behind DeLay
by his outrageous comment that got national attention, last week.

“I don’t know if there is a cause-and-effect connection, but we have seen some recent episodes of courthouse violence in this country,” he continued. “And I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters, on some occasions, where judges are making political decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in violence. Certainly without any justification, but a concern that I have.”

Cornyn made things worse by saying he was misunderstood when trying to cover up his outlandish statement.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 12:30 PM
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15. Delay is now the Titanic and they're all like rats trying to jump off
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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16. Santorum: DeLay Needs to Answer Questions
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050410/ap_on_go_co/delay

WASHINGTON - The No. 3 Republican in the Senate said Sunday that embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay needs to answer questions about his ethics and "let the people then judge for themselves."

Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record)'s comments seem to reflect the nervousness among congressional Republicans about the fallout from the increased scrutiny into DeLay's way of doing business.

DeLay, R-Texas, has been dogged in recent months by reports of possible ethics violations. There have been questions about his overseas travel, campaign payments to family members and his connections to lobbyists who are under investigation.

"I think he has to come forward and lay out what he did and why he did it and let the people then judge for themselves," said Santorum, chairman of the Senate Republican Conference.

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Priceless! Even Santorum is slowly walking away from DeLay!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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17. eating there own
yummy a little tough though
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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18. First the WSJ, now this: Has the Lotting of DeLay begun?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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19. Santorum is terrified of his re-election prospects.
What a whore.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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20. Guess what Rick: so do you!
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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21. That's his line for everything...
"let the people then judge for themselves" I mean.

That's what Little Rickey said about the whole school district fiasco and the fact that he got $100,000 free tuition for his kids from a school district in PA. He always qualifies it with the idea of letting people show how they feel at the voting booths. I hope and pray we Pennsylvanians and the Texans in DeLay's district will!

Anyway, my first thought when I saw that headline at Yahoo! was "Holy crap!" My mom keeps telling me how the Repugs are moving away from Tom DeLay and I haven't been so sure. But Little Rickey confirmed it.

You have to love what Chris Dodd says in the article!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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31. Pennsylvanians need to ask...
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 01:35 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Sen. "Leftovers from Cloacal Love" how much he has accepted from any of DeLay's organizations in the past. That, and research his ELEC disclosures to see if he can keep himself from lying about the amounts.

Something tells me Mr. Nasty-Lube won't be able to tell the truth. Then you got him again.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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22. Probably eyeing up his job
The first thing that came to mind wasn't that Santorum is trying to do the right thing.

Maybe I'm wrong though, and Rick just wants to go early on record as always being against corruption in congress.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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25. yeah the ketttle calling the pot black (something along these lines)
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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23. ok, all together now...
** snort**

Santorum pissin' on Delay's pedestal.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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24. let a jury of 12 judge him in more like it.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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26. Keep an eye on this thread....same story....over at Idiotville
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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27. is Santorum part of the liberal conspiracy?
:tinfoilhat:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:25 PM
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35. Yep, Freerepublic thinks so...
Check out Old and In The Way's link to a FR thread in his post above your...LOL
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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28. What Santorum is doing is casting off excess weight pre-06
He knows that Delay is less than beloved in his own state, and he is trying to secure an 06 reelection. If he has any of that Delay 'stink' on him when his peeps go to the polls, he's dead meat.

And since the word has gone forth from the Rove White House (cut this TX cannon loose, do whatcha gotta do) he is feeling very free to criticize.

Guess Darkness Novak got it wrong again...which suggests to me that the GOP has cut him off, too--probably because they know how loudly he sung to Fitzgerald in the Plame thing. Novak's gotta be bummed when Drudge is getting better shit than he is!
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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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29. santorum backing away from the auto accident known as tom delay
Hahahahaha.
Bye-bye, Tom.
So long, it's been good to know ya.
No need to write, snookums. We'll know where to find you if we want you.
Excuse me for quoting myself, but what can you expect from a man who combs his hair with Preparation H?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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30. Santorum is doing what BUSH wants him to do. This will be orchestrated
in a way to make the GOP appear to be aghast by DeLay's actions.
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Algomas Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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32. How brave of little Ricky Rectum.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:45 PM
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33. Hehehe
To: AntiGuv
Looks like DeLay's wife and daughter were on the take to the tune of half a million dollars.

Spin that, Big Stupid Republican Government Republicans.
8 posted on 04/10/2005 11:18:45 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >

Wonder how long this post will last?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380961/posts
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 01:58 PM
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34. *WHICH* people?
WHICH people will have to judge for themselves?
Like *WE THE PEOPLE* have anything to say against a Repug controlled Congress?
This is a pointless statement by Santorum.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 03:27 PM
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38. Why's Deans picture in this article ?
He's not quoted or referenced at all.
A little " misdirection " maybe ?
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 04:10 PM
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39. Everytime they hammer him, they keep the story in the news!
I love it, they are shouldering the burden of destroying him themselves.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 11:31 PM
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40. Santorum, Shays, Abramoff
Yep...it's a liberal conspiracy against DeLay.

:eyes:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 04:58 AM
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41. WP: Santorum Urges DeLay to Answer Critics
Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), one of Capitol Hill's leading conservatives, warned House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) yesterday that he needs to "lay out what he did and why he did it" if he is going to put an end to questions about his travel and dealings with lobbyists.

Another weekend critic was Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.), a frequent DeLay antagonist, who said DeLay should step down. Shays told about 50 people at a town hall meeting in Greenwich on Saturday that he considers DeLay "an absolute embarrassment to me and to the Republican Party."

"If he ever runs for speaker, I get to vote on the House floor, and my 'no' vote combined with the Democrats' means he will never be speaker," Shays said, according to a report in Greenwich Time. The newspaper also quoted Shays as saying: "Do I think Tom DeLay will be the majority leader by the end of this term? No. . . . I don't think Tom DeLay is going to survive."

The comments by Shays and Santorum came amid growing signs of waning support from DeLay's friends. President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) all have taken more moderate positions than DeLay on restraining federal judges. On Friday, when Bush was asked about DeLay's comments that judges are out of control and should be held accountable, the president replied that he believes in "an independent judiciary." He said nothing about DeLay.

more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42422-2005Apr10.html
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 04:58 AM
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42. DeLay & his neocon theocratic views have been rejected
along with his dirty trips, dirty paying of his closest relatives, etc.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 04:58 AM
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44. hmm not quite
The Neocons are quite entrenched, Dealy is out off bounds...

But he is the begining
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 04:58 AM
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43. Santorum is about to be chased out himself. Why's he telling off DeLay?
I don't vote in Pennsylvania, but I'll do what I can for his opponent in '06.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 04:58 AM
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46. so it's looking like
Santorum is trying to tie himself to DeLay -- or untie himself? On the right hand he's supporting DeLay, on the left hand it looks like he's swaying to the other side... He's doing the same on many other issues - testing the wind, seeing which way it blows

DeLay has a big mouth - more often than not his explosive comments result in putting his own feet into his own mouth. Just my observation -- DeLay is in melt-down mode and will probably take a few of his buddies with him. I suspect it won't be long before DeLay implodes

Currently DeLay is blaming Abrahms and Abrahms is blaming DeLay for the ethic lapses.



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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 04:58 AM
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45. Delay
The scary thing about all this shit with Delay is that, in spite of all the scandals and criminal wrongdoings, 63% of his constituents would still vote for him(according to a poll I saw). Yow! What a bunch of fucking morons!
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