Bush says his Christian faith reaffirmed at pontiff's service

[underpants]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/vaticanpopebushplane

31 minutes ago

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AFP) - President George W. Bush said the funeral service for the late Pope John Paul II helped reaffirm his personal faith, and lauded the pontiff's "strong" legacy.

Of the service Bush stressed that "it helped strengthen my faith. ... Faith: it's a walk, not a moment, not a respite ... Today's ceremony, I bet you, was a reaffirmation for millions."

"This will be one of the highlights of my presidency, to have been at this great ceremony."

Bush also said the experience reinforced his belief that "There is a living God. And no doubt in my mind the Lord Christ was sent by the Almighty. No doubt."


Though surrounded by a crowd after arriving in Rome to pay his respects, Bush said "when I was kneeling there .. much more in touch with his spirit, I really did. I felt very much at peace there, and I felt prayerful."

[Kerrytravelers]

1. Faith: it's a walk, not a moment, not a respite

... and, it's great for politically manipulating the stupid half of America. Hehehe (and a wink in his dim little squinty eyes.)

[maxrandb]

16. Wow!

"Faith: it's a walk, not a moment, not a respite"

Now that's "Body by Jake Deep"

[TankLV]

84. "Faith: it's a walk, not a moment, not a respite" - as opposed to what I

do, as well as all other repukes - we only want it "for the moment" and to milk it for "maximum political advantage" - works every time, too!"

GWbunkerboy

[LiberalFighter]

124. Does he know what he means by that?

[Inland]

2. God, save us from this pandering fool. nt

[saigon68]

20. He's so CHRISTIAN-- He can't wait to FRY a few people on DEATH ROW.

Or keep a couple thousand "Brain Dead" vegetables existing in catatonic states on machines, to keep the Knuckle Dragging Trailer Park Rustics voting REPUKE.

[Stinky The Clown]

3. What a lying, sack of shit fuckwad

Fuck You George Bush you pandering fucking hypocrite.

Reaffirm THIS, you motherfucker.

[cliss]

27. Whew some rant.

I can't disagree with you. How could anyone?

[FemaleDemfromMass]

134. My sentiments.............

Exactly!

[DemBeans]

4. ick

"Faith: it's a walk, not a moment, not a respite..."

This fake little God-clown makes me want to vomit. How dare this murderer explain to ME what faith is.

[ET Awful]

5. So. . . . the Pope dying is one of the high points of his presidency?

Hmmm.

[Virginian]

72. He is into death.

All the death on 9/11 caused 9/11 to previously be the high point of his presidency.

... and all those executions when he was Governor...

He's Satan, I tell you. He's the evil one. He really gets into death. I am surprised he didn't get struck by lightening or spontaniously combust at this funeral. Sprinkle holy water on him and watch him melt.

[saigon68]

132. I wonder if he liked the photos of Dogs eating Corpses ?

I know he likes photos of piles of money!!

[kliljedahl]

112. I'm an agnostic, but

I think meeting him would probably be a higher point.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[NYC]

114. You can't upstage the deceased at a funeral.

Only George Bush would try.


"This will be one of the highlights of my presidency, to have been at this great ceremony."

As the rest of us know, the funeral was not about "my presidency", it was about his funeral.

[leftofcool]

6. I am at a loss for words.......................

why don't you leave the planet, you asshole!

Left of Cool

[no_to_war_economy]

22. When Bush's face appeared on giant screen TVs

showing the ceremony, many in the crowds outside St. Peter's Square booed and whistled.

may allah bless and hold the Italians!

[Maat]

39. This is a stupid question for this little ol' ma in her forties to ask ..

but is that a real picture?

It made me gag - just like the overlays of the maps of Iraq and Afghanistan in "Hijacking Castastrophe," that show: (1) that our bases in Afghanistan perfectly lie along the strongly-desired pipeline, and (2) that our permanent bases in Iraq lie perfectly along the "Oil Alley."

Sick that we're sending those children over there for this Stuff.

[no_to_war_economy]

44. picture is from

the JUNE 2004 issue of National Geographic, pg 85

that image sums it all up

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/16/1050172643895.html?oneclick=true

[saigon68]

89. ITS REAL ALRIGHT--- your tax dollars at work.

The Bush Criminals sleep well on their heated waterbeds at nite.

[NYC]

115. That picture made me shudder.

I can't imagine living under those circumstances.

[goddess40]

116. Anyone have a link to the booing?

I sure would enjoy seeing it and I know the 'liberal' media here won't show it.

[Bill McBlueState]

7. I guess we're not learning anything new here, but still

I want to weep for my country when the President thinks that attending a ceremony is a highlight of his presidency. People are poor and dying in the Middle East and here at home, and all he can think about is the personal kick he gets out of attending a state funeral.

Bush also said the experience reinforced his belief that "There is a living God. And no doubt in my mind the Lord Christ was sent by the Almighty. No doubt."

Who cares, you stupid piece of shit? There will be plenty of time to think about meaningless crap in your long, long retirement. You've dug this country into a deep-ass hole, and we'd appreciate it if you at least made the effort to get us out of it, or at least stop digging. Your low-grade blunders into the realm of theology can wait until 2009.

[Name removed]

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[Bill McBlueState]

104. I missed it!

What got deleted?

Damn. I like it when a reply to my post has to be deleted. Means I must've gotten my point across.

[onehandle]

8. So he's one of us "Papal Papists" who answer only to the Pope now?

His Catholic hating fundie core will be very upset indeed.

[ixion]

9. such a transparent a**clown

really, this phony pseudo-religious banter billed as 'statements of faith' or whatever really make me :puke: :banghead: :puke:

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. Ugh!

"Today's ceremony, I bet you, was a reaffirmation for millions." What a simpleton! What a phony! Who falls for his simplistic pandering bushit, anymore? :banghead:

[kliljedahl]

113. Who falls for his simplistic pandering bushit, anymore?

Down to 41% & still falling. If he keeps this up his approval rating will be -40% before long. It already is if you count the 94% of the non-US population of the world.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[emad]

11. Maybe he meant his faith re-affirned in suborning witnesses/

prosecutors in the forthcoing "God's Banker" murder trial in Rome????

How else did he spend Thursday night?

[DeepModem Mom]

12. Bush, like everyone, has a right to his beliefs; his hypocrisy...

however, is another matter.

[chelsea0011]

13. When your highlight is a funeral, you know things have gone bad

Do you think if he ever attends the funeral of a fallen soldier, he will call it a highlight?

[underpants]

25. Look at it this way-At least he finally went to A funeral

Of course it was overseas and not at Arlington...it's a start

:grr:

[redqueen]

14. Screw your lies, chimp! End the death penalty

IF you really mean it!

Hmph!

[goodboy]

15. He'll say anything to get his approval ratings up outta the toilet (nt)

[Virginian]

17. So when does he convert?

OK, now I'm convinced he would convert if he could run for another term.
He has used up the fundies, now he could attempt to milk the Catholics for donations and votes. For some reason, I think most Catholics think for themselves and would see right through him.
However, one-issue-voters come in all religions.

[ixion]

34. catholics think for themselves?

good one. :rofl: :spray: :rofl:

[TankLV]

85. What you said!

Best laugh I've had all day!

[5thGenDemocrat]

86. Yeah. I'm a Catholic. I think for myself.

Got something you want to say to me, Sporto?
John
The higher a monkey climbs a tree, the more he shows his ass.

[ixion]

87. yeah, I do...

the statement: "All Catholics think for themselves" is patently false. You're an exception to the rule.

I was raised (and rebeled from) an Irish-Catholic upbringing, so the basis for my opinion is steeped in first hand experience.

Nothing personal... just having a laugh. ;-)

[5thGenDemocrat]

100. My Catholic mother's maiden name was Garrett

Which is, as you may or may not know, Irish.
Further, I am a Democrat ONLY because of the Catholic teachings regarding social justice, peace, concern for the poor and a hundred other liberal virtues instilled in me at St Andrew's School and RCC.
I do not push my belief onto others here. I believe God loves all his children equally and my role as a Catholic believer is simply to lift up my neighbor wherever and whenever I can. This isn't anything worthy of praise -- it is simply what I am expected to do and a humble gift I can offer to God.
Frankly, I will stand with my church. The Democratic Party I was raised in was represented by LBJ -- whose avatar I keep to the left of my posts. The Dems today are a sorry, flaccid, mewling, panty-wetting lot. I really don't know why I continue to waste the vote I was raised to cast as a good citizen AND a good Catholic on these losers.
If you want to condescend, if you want to drive the Catholic vote out of the Democratic Party, just say so. I'd be perfectly content to vote third party and I'm pretty certain I'm not alone. No sweat to me either way.
John
Just say the word and my soul will be healed.

[ixion]

102. okay, I'm an independent, so I don't speak for the dems

I am, however, speaking my opinion, which I am entitled to.

Please don't stand there and accuse me of trying to drive Catholics out of the democratic party. The father's side of my family are devout Irish-Catholics and also happen to be ardent Bush-Lovin' conservatives, so you may be able to see where I get my negative impressions. ;-)

[5thGenDemocrat]

105. Your father's side of the family were still in the minority last election

We'll see whether that's still true the next go-round.
John
And, yes -- you have your opinion and I have mine. What a great country this used to be. Let's just leave it at that.

[ixion]

121. fair enough

sorry to have offended you. :-(

[5thGenDemocrat]

125. I am absolutely certain it will have been forgotten by tomorrow

Please understand that this old unreconstructed mackerel-snapper has had a very long week, with entirely too much death and sadness (not just JPII, but others as well). I know you to be a good person and a fine DUer, and I guess I've just heard enough cute comments for right now.
I'm calmer now and I won't take it personally. At least, I would hope, not TOO personally. And so, again, let's leave it at that.
I hope you have a great weekend and I wish you peace. I mean that sincerely.
John
See you around the food fight.

[BringEmOn]

18. Translation: "I want one of those fancy robes, a cool hat and..

...have everyone kiss my ring."

[DustMolecule]

19. Hope that everyone catches what he said here (or didn't say)

And no doubt in my mind the Lord Christ was sent by the Almighty. No doubt."

He didn't say Lord Jesus Christ!

Lord means having authority over others.
Christ means the anointed one promised and chosen by God.

So, saying "Christ was sent by the almighty. No doubt." is kinda stupid because, by definition, that's what Christ means! It always has bothered me that * never (to my knowledge) says the name Jesus (if someone can show me otherwise on that I'd appreciate seeing it).

To my thinking, if * isn't referring to the biblical Jesus as "the Christ". Who's he talking about? (I sure hope it's not that Moon guy. Remember that crazy anointing ceremony that happened a while back?)

[Virginian]

69. Himself?

Don't most of his fundie supporters think that He, the Great W, was sent by God Almighty to lead us through these difficult times.

I always thought Christ was another word for Jesus. Your definition and logic scare me. Now that I think of it your way.

Christ means the anointed one promised and chosen by God.
Is Dubya going to start thinking of himself as a Christ? Are Christians going to be followers of Dubya?

Can you only be a Christian if you follow Dubya?

This man, our president is truly a sick, sick man if that is his belief.

[gratuitous]

21. Gee, if Stupidhead is such a friend of Jesus . . .

Then why doesn't he do what Jesus asked him to do? Instead, he lies, he cheats, he steals, he robs the poor, he heaps further burdens on the most vulnerable and doesn't lift a finger to help them, and he clothes it all in the most pious pronouncements.

Jesus had some pretty harsh things to say about people in power who did such things.

[Blue Belle]

41. Amen to that.

I couldn't agree more.

[Coventina]

23. Hey chimp.....have a big glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP!

No one wants to hear your self-serving, self-righteous, pandering claptrap.

SHUT IT!!!!

[underpants]

26. Hey Georgie boy

[TahitiNut]

24. "I ... me... my... me... I... I... I... me... me... my... my..."

Fucking pathological narcissist! :grr:

[dmr]

68. HA! THAT is exactly my very first thought here

It's all about me ... me ... me ...

That's what 5 year old do.

[Bonhomme Richard]

28. Whoa!!! He is soooo going to Hell. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

29. Right. Catholics are "Christian" when it suits him and inferior

behind closed doors.

Is it lost on the entire world that Bush is not Catholic and in fact the Protestant establishment in this country has a history of prejudice and even downright hostility toward them?

He makes me absolutely sick, and I'm not even Catholic - or religious for that matter.

[noahmijo]

31. Yep those are my first thoughts too

Remember his little visit to Bob Jones University? No one seems to remember that. In his eyes, I as a Catholic am a heretic and a heathen.

You know what makes me just as sick though? other Catholics who actually believe in and follow *.

[Malva Zebrina]

30. I have not seen ONE picture of him with his head bowed or his eyes

down in anything that would resemble prayer. I hace seen pictures of him supposedly praying at other times. He screws up his face as if he is in bad need of X-Lax--to him, it is what he thinks prayers should; look like, according to movies he has seen and of course an act before the cameras.

The pictures I have seen show him staring with a half smirk, while others are praying. Better believe it--this is sending the message that he bows to no one, not even the dead Pope.

[Judi Lynn]

43. You're right! I went to look in google images.....

In 1998, at Jerusalem, when he was the Gov. of Texas.



Prayer Buddy Pat.

[wabeewoman]

32. Notice the contrast in the story

between Clinton and bush. For bush its all about him, not the Pope, but Clinton sees the bigger picture. He wasn't perfect but bush looks like such a narcissistic, ignorant fool beside him.

[Zorra]

33. The man is a completely shameless opportunist and panderer.

I wonder if he ever "gets in touch with the spirit" of any of the tens of thousands of people whose deaths he is fully responsible for?

What a disgusting hypocrite, he makes me ill. If he truly believes that "the Lord Christ was sent by the Almighty", then it is obvious from his actions that he must have embraced satan and is doing everything in his power to spread death, chaos, pollution, poverty, ignorance, and evil throughout the world.

I kind of doubt that Jesus would approve of lying about WMD in order to start a war for oil and profit. The Pope even told him that his war was completely unjustifiable in the eyes of God.
:puke:
Check this out: Apparently, Bush lied right in the face of a Vatican envoy:

A senior administration official said Bush told Laghi that war with Iraq would be "a last option" but that "a disarmed Iraq would leave the world safer."

Vatican to Bush: Iraq war would be 'disaster'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Vatican envoy who met with President Bush Wednesday said he "clearly and forcefully" conveyed a message from Pope John Paul II that a war against Iraq would be a "disaster."
snip---
"As we begin our Lenten journey this year, we cannot ignore the tense international situation," he said. "There must be, on everyone's part, an aware acceptance of responsibilities and a common effort to avoid another dramatic conflict for mankind. ...

"For this reason I wished for Ash Wednesday to be a day of prayer and fasting to implore peace in the world. ... We must pray and fast for peaceful coexistence between peoples and nations," he added. (Full story)
(more)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/05/sprj.irq.bush.vatican/

[xxqqqzme]

35. '.....I am interested

in working with whoever his successor is. I am not going to prejudge the selection process."...'

That is damn big of him!

Why do I read this crap. I swear I'm gonna stroke out in the next 3 years.

[loudsue]

60. He's NOT going to prejudge the selection process? Then why did he

meet w/ all of the American cardinals who will be in the voting conclave as soon as he got to Rome? A little PNAC/ Opus Dei arm twisting was going on... you can count on that!

Frikkin' asswipe.

:kick:

[LiberalFighter]

127. Is that protocol?

Why would the cardinals allow this chimp to meet with them?

[leftofthedial]

36. there were no bolts of lightning or fireballs

this is further proof that there is no god.

[daleo]

37. So, he will be becoming a Catholic then?

It is nice to see that he is open to change, and the prejudices of some of his supporters won't interfere with his spiritual seeking.

Too bad about Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and "miscellaneous" though.

[sinkingfeeling]

38. When I saw him on TV, my thoughts were I bet he's thinking that

his funeral will be bigger and better than the Pope's. "There'll be more important world leaders and millions more of my flock show up for my final appearance than this guy's."

[calimary]

78. That's what I thought, too.

What might have been going through his alleged mind during the funeral...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1712242#1712441

And I'm sure when he gets back to Washington he'll consider commissioning a special ring to wear for some of his simpering sycophants to kneel and kiss.

[Mari333]

40. Get Thee Behind me Satan

If Bush is a christian then I am the King of England.

[Rose Siding]

42. AP: "Bush, Clinton Disagree on Pope's Legacy"

(as opposed to AFP)

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE - President Bush on Friday said that attending the funeral of Pope John Paul II was "one of the highlights of my presidency" and made clear that he disagrees with former President Clinton's assessment that the pontiff leaves a mixed legacy.

"I think John Paul II will have a clear legacy of peace, compassion and a strong legacy of setting a clear moral tone," Bush told reporters on Air Force One as he flew from Rome to the United States just hours after the funeral. He said he wanted to amend his remarks to add the word "excellent."

"It was a strong legacy," the president said. "I wanted to make sure there was a proper adjective to the legacy he left behind, not just the word clear."

Bush, the first U.S. president to attend a papal funeral, led a U.S. delegation to the 2 1/2-hour funeral Mass that included his wife, Laura, his father, former President Bush, former President Clinton and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Clinton, on the flight to Rome earlier this week, had said that John Paul "may have had a mixed legacy," but he called him a man with a great feel for human dignity.

"There will be debates about him. But on balance, he was a man of God, he was a consistent person, he did what he thought was right," Clinton said. "That's about all you can ask of anybody."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20050408/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pope_bush&printer=1

[dArKeR]

45. "No doubt in my mind the Lord Christ sent WMDs to Iraq." "No doubt"

Lying D- alocholic and drug addict student!


Bush, Clinton Disagree on Pope's Legacy
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050408/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pope_bush&e=2

[Virginian]

73. Wow! That is some good artwork dArKeR n/t

[sescob]

92. Rofl! n/t

[Az_lefty]

46. what a total phony!!!!

If he was so touched, why did he only stay 5 minutes when they were allowed 15?
:puke:

[Rex_Goodheart]

47. Is this like the "no doubt" he had about Saddam's WMD's?

Excuse me if I don't put much stock in what Bush claims to not doubt.

[TankLV]

91. And of course, the whore media will NEVER confront him with that

or even mention it in the same article in passing to give us a COMPLETE AND UNBIASED piece on the subject!

I won't hold my breath.

[kath]

48. OH, GAG.

what a total asshole.

[saltpoint]

49. If Bush is a Christian, then green jello is a cure for cancer.

What an unforgivable episode in American history this is, owed largely to the doings of the Bush administration.

And the lapdog bootlicking media who shill for him.

[mmonk]

50. Which faith? The one

that tells him he must dominate the world through war or one that prefers peace and provides for the poor?

[fryguy]

51. hightlight of his presidency is something he had nothing to do with???

interesting . . . . so what are the other highlights?

[DrZeeLit]

99. Yep -- #1 highlight: funeral in Italy for a non-citizen.... so what about

the nearly 2000 men and women who have died for his own policies (and that's just the Iraq war)?
Boggles the mind.

Well, the Pope's death (yes, nothing * had a hand in.... right?) now replaces 9/11 as the previous #1 highlight (according to *'s earlier comments).


So.... let's recap. * considers HIS highlights 2 events in which he really had nothing to do, and which did not help the country or citizens of the U.S. for whom he was elected to serve. Nope... * highlights do not involve his service at all.

Duh.

[dArKeR]

52. Go to Iraq and save our children. How much did this trip cost? $50 million

[Deja Q]

53. No, the Lord Christ was sent to us by Accountemps. As for feeling @ peace

:eyes:

Was * trying to outdo himself with dumb phrases or what?!

Worse, if somebody's death makes him feel at peace, we should be scared so shitless we won't be able to take a dump for a week.

[Danmel]

54. Kinda like his "talk" with the 9-11 Commission

He "enjoyed" that too.

What a sociopath he is. The funeral is a highlight of his "Presidency"! Can it get anymore embarrassing?

[phatkatt]

55. Oh, wouldn't it be funny if he actually meant it and started ...

... following the teachings of Jesus (feeding the hungry, helping the poor, rejecting materialism, etc.)? His corporate sponsors and all the freepers would just have to lie in the bed they made.

[Generic Other]

56. That idot! He's a heretic

Has he not heard of the REFORMATION?

I seriously doubt the Catholic blessed a Protestant at the Pope's funeral, especially not one whom the Pope called the "anti-christ."

Sheesh. What a mishmash of stupidity Bush is.

[mutus_frutex]

57. Will he be welcome again Bob Jones U.?

That is the question... :-)

[enki23]

58. good thing he never said anything like that *before* he spoke at bob jones

.

[underpants]

65. mutus and enki-Bob Jones will forgive him

Devotion is only important in its relationship to the holders of Earthly power.

If they were upset you would never hear about it...even if Bob himself stripped naked and ran down Broadway with a NO W sign painted on his chest. No one would cover it.

[SillyGoose]

67. What happened at Bob Jones University?

I've see a couple of posts mention it recently but don't know what happened....

[callous taoboy]

59. "Prayerful." Full of it. I hate that word.

[Briar]

61. So he is ready to admit

that fighting an illegal war in which tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died is wrong?

[BreweryYardRat]

62. Uh-huh.

Yeah, Bush, I believe you...when winged monkeys fly from my ass!

:puke:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

63. That's good, George. Now repent your murderous, thieving ways

and resign from the office that was never rightfully yours to claim.
And give your wealth to those who have suffered as a result of your illegal war.

[dArKeR]

64. Drink blood and eat flesh - Any religions besides Catholics do this?

[megatherium]

74. If you're referring to the doctrine of transubstantiation,

I'm not sure if other Christian Churches hold to it. However, the Orthodox and the Anglicans (including Episcopalians in the US), and I think other denominations, believe in consubstantiation. This is the doctrine of the "real presence" of Christ in the sacraments. (Transubstantiation holds that the sacraments literally become the body and blood of Christ, even though they still look like unleavened bread and wine.)

Protestants often teach that the bread and wine are not the body and blood of Jesus, but instead are just a memorial to his sacrafice on the cross. ("Do this in memory of me.") Catholics point to early Christian writings (including St. Paul) to argue that to the earliest Christians, it meant more than that.

As an Episcopalian, my own understanding is that Christ is present in the sacrament in the same way he promised his followers that "where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matthew 18:20).

[Claire Beth]

66. what an idiot he is! n/t

[Demeter]

70. Pardon Me While I Gag

I'm glad Bush has renewed his faith; he's gonna need it in the International Criminal Court and prison.

[calimary]

75. Wow - does that mean he's not going to be a warmonger anymore?

Or a user? Or a cheat? Or a liar? Or a thief? Or a hypocrite? Or a modern-day Pharisee? Or the self-proclaimed messiah and/or center of the universe? That would be something.

[Lisa]

76. the people he bumped out of line to pay their respects weren't "at peace"

Many of them had been waiting patiently for more than a day, after having made a long and arduous trip to Rome. (This was mentioned on the front page of Canada's Globe and Mail yesterday.) Most didn't complain, out of respect for His Holiness (no, George, they aren't referring to you!). But having to listen to Bush "pontificating" about religion like this adds insult to injury ...

[yorkiemommie1]

77. whited sepulchre

is what he is.

[underpants]

80. Ouch!

http://www.elook.org/dictionary/whited-sepulchre.html

[calimary]

82. The Antichrist has been described in similar terms. An outwardly-

pleasant, even charming, serpent.

I'm just saying...

[sinkingfeeling]

83. What an absolutely perfect description of the idiot!!

[Voltaire99]

79. His head full of invasions, mass adoration, and the charms of power...

Naturally, in photos, even photos taken in front of a dead Pope, he looks like drooling simian. Great cover.

[TexasLawyer]

81. Oh Lord!

Please protect me from thy followers!

[derby378]

88. I feel safer already...

I think * needs some PIE!!

[rodeodance]

93. Jr will read a book "Peter the Great' this weekend. um...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=3&u=/ap/20050408/ap_on_re_eu/pope_bush&sid=84439559

Bush Calls Pope's Legacy Clear, Strong

33 minutes ago


By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer



"I happen to feel it was a special moment that was part of a special ceremony for a special person," Bush told reporters traveling with him on Air Force One as he flew from Rome to his Texas ranch. "Today's ceremony, I bet you, for millions of people was a reaffirmation for many and a way to make sure doubts don't seep into your soul."






......Over the next couple of days, Bush plans some mountain biking with Mark McKinnon, the top adman from his re-election campaign, sprinkled in with a little fishing, brush-clearing, bluebonnet appreciation and reading Robert K. Massie's 1980 biography "Peter the Great."

[NYC]

120. Peter the Great declared a tax on beards.

Bush is probably looking for helpful hints in that biography.

Encyclopedia Brittanica is off limits to non-payers, so I found this:

In an effort to move his people away from Asiatic customs, Peter imposed a tax on beards starting on September 5, 1698; All men except priests and peasants, were required to pay a tax of one hundred rubles a year, and the commoners had to pay one kopek each. This was seen by many as an attack on religion.

From: http://www.teachersparadise.com/ency/en/wikipedia/p/pe/peter_i_of_russia.html

[DoveTurnedHawk]

90. Good for Him, Maybe He'll Stop Invading Countries and Executing People

Oh wait, I forgot he conveniently doesn't subscribe to those elements of the Pope's faith.

DTH

[saigon68]

94. KICK

[rodeodance]

95. scary comment-as I think he will more likely to push it off on us now.

[manly]

96. Bush's humilitude

What an asshole.

[rodeodance]

97. short Peter the Great book symposis--its about a great leader (like Jr?)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345298063/102-7722157-4704964

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"Enthralling . . . As fascinating as any novel and more so than most." The New York Times Book Review

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Against the monumental canvas of seventeenth- and eighteenth-century Europe and Russia unfolds the magnificent story of Peter the Great, one of the most extraordinary rulers in history. Impetuous and stubborn, generous and cruel, tender and unforgiving, a man of enormous energy and complexity, Peter the Great is brought fully to life in this exceptional biography.

Citations This book cites 8 books:

* The Eighteenth Century in Russia by John Gordon Garrard in Back Matter (1), and Back Matter (2)
* Of the Imitation of Christ (Vintage Spiritual Classics) by THOMAS KEMPIS on page 669
* The Man in the Iron Mask by Alexandre Dumas on page 647
* Nicholas and Alexandra: The Story of the Love That Ended an Empire by Robert K. Massie in Back Matter

[July]

98. Is he saying he was in touch with the Pope's spirit? WTF?

If he has religious beliefs, they are bizarre. What the hell is he trying to convey with that comment? Looking for some content-neutral remark that sounds spiritual?

[AgadorSparticus]

101. he says this as he's looking in a mirror to make sure his photo shots look

good. hey condi! forget the dead guy for a sec. But how do I look?

I'm so disgusted with the exploitation of one man's death. Bush and his media minions are repulsive. This fucked up "president" needs to come with his own warning sign because he really does make me want to vomit.

[sescob]

103. I find that the more he talks about being so religious...

the less I believe him. Next he'll be doing a whole homily from the WH podium.

[obxhead]

106. I am so glad I don't have TV at all

If were to witness this 24/7 coverage I just know I would have a major brain hemorage or something :)

[0007]

107. junior's faith was reaffirmed that the Italians don't like him after

hearing the boos.

[psychopomp]

108. A prayer

Great Spirit who rules from the beginning to the end, remember us when you crush this imposter and show us mercy.

[neuvocat]

109. This guy is such a joke.

He doesn't even pay attention to his congregation when he wanted to invade Iraq. His inner circle is completely devoid of anyone proclaiming any sort of faith in Christianity and then he says something like this that aggrivates his RW base.

[Bullshot]

110. So, let's go blow up some more countries for no reason, right George?

[pinniped]

111. Must have been hard for the antichrist to be in such a holy place.

I bet the POS didn't touch the holy water.

[hue]

117. Cough, cough, choke, puke! n/t (no words for such hypocrisy!)

[Lisa]

118. so, all this was so Dubya could have his faith lifted

Call me old-fashioned, but I always thought a funeral was supposed to be about the deceased person.

[bushcrab]

119. "...now watch this drive!"

say whatever you want chimpy, the whole world realizes what you're really all about.

Boos and whistles.....right on!

[Bouncy Ball]

122. I get SUCH creepy feelings hearing the "leader" of a supposedly

secular government talk in such strongly religious terms.

What's next?

:scared:

Freedom of religion, freedom from religion, buddy. Did you forget about that? Or ever care in the first place?

[gademocrat7]

123. shrub doesn't know the meaning of the word faith

or respect. The funeral Mass was for the Pope. The Rite of Christian Burial has nothing to do with the presidency of the United States.

[Megahurtz]

126. A "Christian" member of the Skull and Bones Secret Society???

claiming that his "Christian faith" is affirmed?:wtf:

Do all of the "born again" Christians that Busheister has totally swindled in this country even know about this???

http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm

LIAR!!!:argh:

[LiberalFighter]

128. How does it reaffirm his personal faith?

And it took the Catholic faith to do it and not Methodist?

[despairing optimist]

129. How Bush's faith was reaffirmed. An explanation.

The pope is dead. Dead people can't criticize Bush and refute his ideology. The pope did both.

Bush's faith in death was reaffirmed. It's his way to salvation in this world, at least for now.

[Zech Marquis]

130. if only there was a sign

like God striking * with a lightening bolt :ouch: Having this asshole invoke the name of God is an insult to every religious person alive. Reaffirm his faith my ass! :grr:

[cosmicdot]

131. and, all that unnecessary concern in 1960 about JFK and the Vatican

and separation of church and state stuff ...

or Al Smith and the Vatican in 1928 for that matter (interestingly enough, Al Smith swept the deep South & Massachusetts, in losing to Hoover)

[bobthedrummer]

133. Raised in faith, Jenna was on all fours shaking her booty and showing

off her thong in a NYC club while her daddy was booed in the streets of Rome.

BFEE family faith in action during this solemn event of The War President's biography.:puke::puke::puke::puke::argh:

[ngGale]

135. Bush always feels at peace he...

has no conscience.