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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:11 PM
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Michael Schiavo in hiding after death threats
By Jacqui Goddard in Pinellas Park, Florida
(Filed: 03/04/2005)

Terri Schiavo's widower has gone into hiding because of the furore over his wife's death and has sought police protection.

<SNIP>

"His goal is to find safe housing because of these death threats," said a friend, Alan Shoopak. "It's not over. Unfortunately, it's just beginning."

Mrs Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, who went to the US Supreme Court to block the removal of their daughter's feeding tube, admit that they care little for their son-in-law, but have urged against revenge attacks.

"Our family abhors any violence, or any threats of violence. We ask that all those who support our family be completely kind in their words and deeds towards others," said Mrs Schiavo's sister, Suzanne Vitadamo.

<SNIP>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/04/03/wschi03.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/04/03/ixworld.html
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:14 PM
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1. He may need Witness Protection after this
But it's nice to see those good christian values hard at work, and it's good to know that the people who espouse a culture of life are not at all hypocritical in the least bit.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:41 PM
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17. He can't. When dealing with fundie threats
the Witless Protection Program is utilized...totally different budget.
:evilgrin:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:28 AM
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58. Some Hateful Right Wing Fundy Nut-Case will KILL HIM
Kind of like the 3 abortion Doctors and several of their Escorts who were gunned down for performing abortions.

The END justifies the MEANS for these so called compassionate whack-job followers of Jayzeus.

They are the moral equivalent to Joseph Stalin

Except they are HIDING BEHIND the Image of Christ. Praying the Rosary ETC.
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Bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:01 PM
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84. Onward xtian soldiers!!!!!!!!!!!
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:15 PM
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2. is this "true"
"Our family abhors any violence, or any threats of violence. We ask that all those who support our family be completely kind in their words and deeds towards others," said Mrs Schiavo's sister, Suzanne Vitadamo.

Or are they just following the advice of their lawyer?
or their spiritual advisor?
or some of the donation sites?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:20 PM
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4. Sounds like ..... covering asses....n/t
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:22 PM
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7. It's passive and non-specific
It says "we abhor."

It doesn't say "Please, for our sister's sake, for God's sake, for the good of everyone concerned, please do not do harm to Michael Schiavo or anyone else involved in our sister's death. We all did the best we could, and our Lord Jesus wants us all to be peaceful and to pray for Terri and for all of us."

Or something like that.

As I said below, "weasels."
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:26 PM
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10. That's active voice, not passive
Passive would be something like "it is abhored..." -- soemthing that removes the actor from the action as if the action happens on its own, mysteriously. "Mistakes were made," and all that.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:01 PM
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23. Tell you what
If I had meant "passive voice," I'd have written "passive voice.'

I meant "passive.'

You put your own gloss on that by inserting "voice." I can't imagine why you'd do that, since I wasn't addressing the syntax, grammar, or construction.

So, now you must examine your reading comprehension skills, and I'll stay with my appropriate choice of words.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:28 AM
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79. good point
I think the family is making it quite clear ( use of "abhor" and your comment) they don't want violence against anyone in this matter
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:07 PM
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25. Congratulations all!! Here is a discussion that one would NEVER see
on FreeRepublic.com! Correct grammatical construction. Wut?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. And get it wrong, too!
A two-fer.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:13 AM
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63. You did actually read his/her response, no?
nt
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:43 PM
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33. what have they done to stop the violence
The Schindler family created the problem by going public with the issue. They encouraged the demonstraters with their daily press briefings. The Schindler family is now morally, if not legally, responsible for the acts of their followers.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:17 PM
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3. "Vengeance is mine", sayeth the Lor......republican christian terrorists..
grid forbid they should follow the beliefs of their very own alleged Jesus.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:20 PM
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5. I think that is
Compassionate conservative Christian values hard at work.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:20 PM
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6. I think those people will hunt him down,
and not stop until they've harmed him or his family.

They're insane.

And, you know, all that would be necessary for this situation to ease so much - not totally, because these people are mad as hatters - would be for the Schindlers and their so-called "spiritual advisors" to state publicly that they want Michael and his family kept safe.

That mushmouth remark by the daughter was vague and weasel-like. Not a mention of Mr. Schiavo.

But, those bastards won't do it. They're bloodthirsty scum.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:22 PM
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28. Sadly
I agree with you. I don't think there's any way to put these maniacs back into their cages.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:46 AM
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41. Actually in Biblical terms, they could justify killiing HIS dauighter
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 12:46 AM by SoCalDem
These are a very unhinged bunch of people he has after him..

His best bet would be to re-locate to a very liberal area, change his name (not that many people know what he looks like),and start over. That's the only way he will ever have peace..
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #41
53. Oh Damn! That pic cracked me up! Think I woke up all the critters! nt
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:24 PM
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8. Every threat should be a news interruption event ,To do less,
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 10:24 PM by higher class
is to act irresponsibly. I'm talking MSMs and all of radio.

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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
22. If Michael were theatining the Schindlers or had threatened them wall-to
wall coverage by the MSM.
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diatribe Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:25 PM
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9. answer for their behavior. "
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 10:26 PM by diatribe

"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior. "

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0401-04.htm

Tom DeLay set them all in motion (and per Frank Lautenberg "may" have violated Federal Law. Mr. Schiavo and all 40 judges please remember this: "DO NOT BOARD AN AIRPLANE."
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:43 PM
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31. For the new "Cult of Life",
the ends will always justify the means. These people believe that now. They are no different from the terrorists who kill innocent bystanders and claim that collateral damage as necessary.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:42 AM
Response to Reply #31
60. These fundies are terrorists!!
And the Schindlers fueled their fire.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:26 PM
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11. Welcome to the Radical RW's "culture of life."
Feh!

NGU.


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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #11
47. Yeah, I'm wondering whose lives are being referred to ...
in this "culture of life."

I'm thinking anybody not part of the reich-wing is not included.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:26 PM
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12. Another example of George W. Bush's 'culture of life'.
n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #12
24. Yes. Kill all those who don't believe in culture of life
True Christians. Gag.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:08 AM
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35. Culture of Life: You live only if you do as we say & believe you should
...otherwise you should die!

I believe these people if they can take control of the US Judicial System would implement a Judicial system that would allow stoning to death of women if they were guilty of adultery or the same of anyone engaging in homosexuality.

They are nuts, absolutely nuts...and if Americans don't wake up and realize that these people are no different in their type of thinking than the same type of people in Afghanistan who evolved into the Taliban, then we are all in big trouble.

Amazing isn't it? America is evolving into exactly what our founding fathers wanted to avoid...I guess we will all learn in the next decade how good and strong the Constitution of the United States really is and if the founding fathers designed it to truly protect our democracy. But I think its going to need the efforts of its citizens to protect it too.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:13 AM
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36. Yes, We're going to have to fight
Bush wants government/business in control of all. He no longer even pretends to be a friend to the worker, the poor, or the needy. He is the opposite of John Paul II.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:39 AM
Response to Reply #36
66. That's good that pretending is over
So when is chimp leaving anyway?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:28 PM
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13. More threats of violence have been reported -
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Judge refused parents request to take her pic/video
From the article:

"The Schindlers also wanted to take photographs and video of their daughter before she died, but Michael Schiavo opposed it and a judge agreed with him."

-----------------------
Probably a good thing..otherwise we would have them splattered and $old all over the mags and papers, etc...or included in whatever book/mini-series deal they have planned.
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:08 AM
Response to Reply #15
54. Yeah, just look at what happened the first time they violated..
.. the courts order NOT to videotape their daughter.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:32 PM
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14. The Christian Brownshirts encouraged by Delay are on the march!
I truly fear for this country!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:41 PM
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16. Michael Schiavo
will be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:22 AM
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39. Imagine as a parent how frightened he must be for his children!
This is just so sick! I can't believe what is happening in our country...its truly frightening!

How can he ever know his children are safe? Who wouldn't put it past these whackos coming out of the woodwork not to harm his children?

And what about the rest of his extended family? Seems that anyone with the name "Schiavo" is going to be a target....I will never forget on TV watching Nancy Grace interviewing one of the Friar Tuck "Spiritual Advisors" of the Schindlers say that the name "Schiavo" was going to go down in history with the names like Scott Petersen, OJ Simpson etc. The Interviewer Nancy Grace with a snarl and a nod said "Yeah, don't forget Robert Blake". Unreal - the media has only encouraged this behaviour and these threats and accusations. After Terri died, that same "Spiritual Advisor" talking to a Journalist on CNN said that Terri was murdered and accused Michael Schiavo of that....unbelievable...and the Journalist didn't contradict and say something like "Excuse me Friar Tuck, but to accuse someone of murder when what has actually happened is a husband carrying out the wishes of his wife to not be sustained artificially on life support and over a dozen State and Federal courts and over 32 judges have agreed and ruled as such and in fact ordered her to be taken off life support, that is not murder".... But ofcourse, none of these people are real "journalists"....they are like a bunch of bystanders throwing fuel on a fire and getting excited to see what happens....

I seriously feel for Michael Schiavo and his family...this is a nightmare and what can he do? He must be so afraid for his family...I am.....
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:21 AM
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45. I'm sure he's more frightened
for his children than himself. As a parent of two children with a stalker, I know a little about looking over one's shoulder for the rest of one's life.

It's the children that make it worse...that overwhelming fear that you won't be able to protect them from a crazy person. Sick.

Honestly, I think that family should change their names and move.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:50 AM
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51. I agree...I think that he'd rather die than have anything happen to his
children...If he was so committed and dedicated to the end for Terri, I imagine he'd be nothing less for his children....

I'm sorry that you have had to endure a "stalker"...what an awful way to have to live ones life....:hug:

Meanwhile, think of Michael Schiavo and his family...his brothers and their kids are living in fear, and he is living in fear for his children too. Where can they go? What can they do? And imagine, with all the whack jobs out there, it must be like having 1000's of stalkers out for him.

I don't know if Michael Schiavo would be willing, but I'm sure Canada or Europe would happily welcome him...not that I advocate "running" and leaving ones country, but given how Congress and this President have acted towards him and all the whack jobs and the media, his country has left him...
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:23 AM
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77. strangely
I've begun to see good things coming out of having the stalker. We're on year 5 of the latest episode now...3 years since the last contact. Many who hear that say we're out of the woods, but nobody who knows the facts of the case agrees.

Our stalker has gone longer than this without making contact before, so there's really no way of knowing for sure until he is no longer breathing.

My children are now teens, and cannot remember a time when they didn't have to be careful and aware. This has taught us all to always know who is near us, and where exits and escape routes are.

That probably sounds horrible to people who have not lived that way. I know I would have thought so before this came into my life. But, in all honesty, I appreciate each day so much more now. We don't put off telling people we love them and spending free time doing what we want, instead of what people think we should do.

Sorry for the long post. Thanks for the hug.

I wish Michael and the Schiavos the best. They have endured great suffering and negativity. May they find peace.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:43 PM
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18. That "Culture of Life" will kill you every time...
Sometimes I really wish Jesus was coming back...
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:49 PM
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19. I wonder if it would have gone this far...
...if Congress just kept their big fat stupidheads out of this.

And DeLay didn't make that wreckless comment about those responsible will pay for this.

I hope Michael is putting together a really big lawsuit!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:52 PM
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20. They're against violence yet they have Randall Terry as their
spokesperson?
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #20
73. Wasn't it one of Randall Terry's close associates, who killed
an abortion doctor, after Terry's organization put up "Wanted" posters of the doctor?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #73
81. Yes.
Which is why I said it :).
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:53 PM
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21. Jesus, please save us from your followers. n/t
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:10 PM
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27. This is so refreshing! The culture of life well at work!!
If this is supposed to be the culture of life....I think I'll pass, thank you kindly!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:26 PM
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29. Seems to me he needs to hitch a ride on the
Underground Railroad and take his family to Canada or to Europe and live in peace.
I daresay he will never be in peace in this country again.

Shame on the cabal for making our country an unsafe place for any citizen simply for exercising their lawful rights.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:31 PM
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30. GOP Fundies are SICK, SICK people!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:43 PM
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32. I wonder if this has anything to do with Cheney putting distance
... between Delays threats and himself today? I'm betting he already knew of these threats and decided to distance himself from their failed experiment.

This entire situation is due to the pot stirring from the republicans. They've unleashed the insane side of the fundies onto an innocent American family. :scared:

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:46 PM
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34. If something happens, Delay should be charged for aiding and abetting.
After all, his statement sounded awfully like counseling violence. Although I suppose he left a little ambiguity to cover himself i.e. some slither room.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:18 AM
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37. That man deserves a fucking MEDAL. for duty and responsibility
When reading about how he took care of her, what a devoted husband he was long after her heart attack, to the hell he has endured since trying to end his wife's suffering.

Michael Schiavo brings new meaning to the words "duty" and "responsibility." I honestly don't know if I'd have the strength to go theough all of that -- religious whackos, bomb threats, Jesse Freaking Jackson, the loss and eventual death of his wife...
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #37
85. maybe he should
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 01:06 PM by ldf
enter politics!

he would certainly have name recognition.

edit to add, what would make him safer? he would be in the public eye at all times.
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nicktom Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:18 AM
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38. Sean Hannity n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:43 AM
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40. Perhaps Mr. Schiavo is reaping some of what he has sown...
Explain where is the mercy in this:

The Schindlers' request for a share of the ashes or even a lock of their daughter's hair has also been refused.

<snip>

Other alleged snubs include having his wife's wedding ring melted down to make a ring for himself.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/04/03/wschi03.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/04/03/ixworld.html

I don't know about the truthfulness of what became of Terri's ring, but there is no disputing the fact that the man that some see as a modern Saint Michael, did refuse to give the Schindlers a lock of their daughter's hair and a share of the ashes.

This has been a very ugly feud fought in front of a global audience. It is noteworthy that the late Pope John Paul II intervened three times in the Schiavo case. Michael Schiavo ignored the Pope's pleas just as George W. Bush ignored the Pope when he pleaded for the life of those on Texas death row.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #40
43. Any parent who chose to violate their child's privacy
as the Schindlers did, and chose to make her a poster child for their
political agenda, and profit by her condition has no right to make any claims against Michael.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #40
44. Just maybe he might be just a little bit
PO'd at them. He's been accused of being a murderer, he's been accused of trying to kill his wife in the hospice, he's been taken to court how many times? And now, because of all this his life is being threatened? Think I'd be a little PO'd at them too.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #40
46. How is having the ring
melted down as a ring for himself a snub? of anyone?

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:16 AM
Response to Reply #46
64. cancel
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 05:20 AM by imenja
deleted my post.


I'm not going to join in on the gossip. It's all their business now. Let's just hope it stays off the news for good.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #64
75. fair enough
I agree completely with your last sentence though!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #46
87. It's not a snub
It's a sentimental thing to do.

I looked into melting down my wedding ring from my ex to make a ring for our daughter with her birthstone, since the ring means nothing to me now but I thought it would to her, and it seemed disrespectful to sell it, even though we were divorced and I'm remarried.

I ended up not doing it because the cost of melting it down was more than the cost of just buying a new one, and I didn't have a lot of spare cash at the time. It's not something you do to save a buck.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:36 AM
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49. What an appalling lack of discernment on your part.
I'm ashamed to be in the same party.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:42 AM
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50. retaliation threats seem a tad more serious than not gettin a lock of hair
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 03:00 AM
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57. arrrrg! *clutches head*
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:52 AM
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61. it all goes back to this ...is it really any of our fecking business??
Who gives a shit at this point? The only thing I give a shit about is the fact that we have idiots in the White House and Congress who got involved and intruded on a family feud. A good case can be made that one of them, DeLay the Unethical, has attempted to incite violence against the Schiavos.

The Schindlers should be charged with an enhanced crime "disturbing the peace" or something of that nature by dragging us into this frigging soap opera.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 10:10 AM
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68. Gosh, those parents have been visiting Terri for 15 years, and
never got a lock of her hair in the whole 15 years, and not even when the deathwatch began?? Gee. Wonder why, if it was so important to them?

<sarcasm>

Come on, folks, they're just jerking the husband around with all this bullshit. They want keep the feud going, and he wants nothing to do with them at all.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:21 AM
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:58 PM
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83. Could all this "News" about the "Evil of Michael"...
Edited on Sun Apr-03-05 12:59 PM by BiggJawn
Just be so much RW-controlled-Press BULLSHIT?

"Other alleged snubs include having his wife's wedding ring melted down to make a ring for himself."

SNUB? Oh, Puh-LEEEESE! He gave that ring to HER. on death it should revert back to him. Do divorced women give THEIR wedding rings to THEIR parents? Hell, no, some of them have nipple rings made from them. When you break an engagement, do you give the ring to your parents, or to the guy you broke up with?

I think that's actually touching, considering that he COULD have put it up on E-bay and retired to The Hamptons on what it'd bring...

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that OTHER woman of his....
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:58 PM
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90. Does his sister-in-law also deserve death threats?
I remember reading a few days ago about a "pro-lifer" who decided to threaten Schiavo's sister-in-law. Since I doubt she played a role in the decision-making process, I am wondering what justification there is for threatening her life.

Yes, I am not surprised that the late Pope John Paul II tried to intervene in Terri Schiavo's case. However, I doubt very strongly that the Pope would have advocated violence against Schiavo for ignoring his pleas.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:00 PM
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91. Wow, still peddling Bullshit, I see.
:eyes:

RL
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:04 PM
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101. Dividing ashes is against Catholic teachings
requiring that cremains be handled and interred with all the respect one would give an intact body. That the Schindlers asked means that they don't care about thier family's professed beleifs except when they can use them to their own advantage.

Likewise, removing part of her body without the intent to bury it probably wouldn't be acceptable.
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et in Arcadia ego... Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:00 AM
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42. "the non-peaceful will become more non-peaceful" WTF?
That's what one of these right-wing screwballs told me after Terri Schiavo died (an online conversation). I think it was his politically correct way of saying the violent will become more violent. I told him to bring it on! Ha, culture of life my ass.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:34 AM
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48. Scary stuff !
Sooo...the circus tent has folded n' the clowns have gone rogue.
This was anticipated , but , very very saddening.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:59 AM
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52. Sounds more like "Culture of Death" to me!!!
:spank: Shameless hypocrites!

Peace!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:44 AM
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55. A rose in her hand and a kiss goodbye...
Mr Schiavo's friends and family speak of a man who honored his wife's wishes and released her from what he perceived to be a life without hope. After cradling her in his arms as she died on Thursday morning, he placed a rose in her hand and kissed her goodbye.
___________________________snip_______________________________

A rose in her hand and a kiss goodbye. IMO, he gave Terri more respect than her parents. With the parent's and their media blitz while showing that tape every day - they took away her dignity!

I wish only the best for his family, where will they go?

Very sad, indeed.

If the parent's are SO Catholic, why would they ask for part of the ashes? Wrong in the eyes of the church, so much for their practice of faith. Micheal made the right decision.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:59 AM
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56. The fatwa on Salman Rushdie
is probably easy street compared to the lunatic assassins for christ there must be out for MS right now.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:37 AM
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59. The Schindler's helped incite the anger of the fundie extremists ...
if something happens to Michael, they walk a fine line ...

These fundie extremists remind me of the KKK "holier than thous".
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:55 AM
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62. They are one and the same
EVIL hateful Fundamentalist Nut-Jobs

THE TALIBORN AGAIN
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msu2ba Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:26 AM
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65. "Yeah, we abhor violence,......
.....even to adulterous, abusive and scumsucking murderers like our son-in-law."

How sincere.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 06:59 AM
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67. MSM is to blame for broadcasting hate monger’s hysteria too nation.
I watched very little of the coverage but I heard a spokesperson make the statement that if she died “there would be hell to pay.” I found this to be a quite chilling call for vengeance. It was irresponsible of CNN to allow what can only be considered a threat of retribution to be carried on their network. Pandering to the lowest of human emotions must garner the good ratings that result in higher advertising rates and plenty of money. Our culture is devolving and greedy bottom feeding gatekeepers like the MSM are very much to blame for much of the historic divisiveness in our country.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 10:16 AM
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69. Excellent points.....
They media has empowered these religious terrorists. If violence does
happen, the media will have a lot to answer for.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 10:26 AM
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70. How do you hook up with Randall Terry and abhor violence or threats of..?
Randall Terry is all about the language of violence.

What a crock of shit...
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 10:56 AM
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71. Death threats from right to lifers
Doesn't get any more illogical than that.

What a joke
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:08 AM
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72. How disgusting.
I hope he and his family move away and can have a relatively safe and normal life.
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apple_ridge Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:14 AM
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74. Right to Life Death Squads
Hypocrisy at its ugliest.
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kypper Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:27 AM
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78. He can come live in Canada
Not one person I have spoken with here agreed with the RW on this issue.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 11:57 AM
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80. so much for the "culture of life"
when did it become okay for them to threaten people who don't agree with them??

Oh, I forget, their "spiritual leaders" in congressdo this all the time.

Asshole fundy freaks.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 12:49 PM
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82. News ...Judge Greeer.hes well protected..........
...well protected....I know for a fact



if you want to know if the judges are being protected......I know for a fact that Greer is.......my husband is an exterminator and does a condo complex.......here in St pete.......yesterday was his day to do__________.....he pulled into parking lot.....and immediately stopped by sheriffs..ask what his business was.his ID..his sheets showing condos to be sprayed....his spray tank was checked.......when he got to the __floor...................their was a sheriff st every end of the hallway...and sheriffs pacing the walkways.he again was asked his business.ID.chemical tank contents...............

All these 15 years we had had this condo account....we never paid attention to the tenants names..as the condo association pays the bill.....I am really surprized..........

so our sheriffs are probably doing the same with Michael and his family and other law enforcements the same for the other judges.......
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:28 PM
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89. A Greeer or a Schiavo death would be bad news for Jeb...
so he better have the police mobilized.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:06 PM
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86. Can't the authorities find where these threats are coming from?
Just give junior the evil eye and ten SS men will jump 'ya!
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 01:25 PM
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88. Newsday Piece Today on Randall Terry
Article said he decided to go on a sabbatical after his problems with his marriage, his son, and his "crushing defeat in running for an Upstate New York Congressional Seat", which is why he hasn't been the public eye lately. According to the article, the Schindler's contacted him to help create media attention to their daughter's cause. He was also involved in the Cruzan case back in 1990. It seems he took it upon himself to go to Missouri back then to try to convince the parents of Nancy Cruzan to not pull her feeding tube. Obviously, to no avail. At any rate, it seems the Schiavo/Schindler case was not his first foray into death matters. He also stated in the article that he plans to become more involved not just with the fight to "save babies", but also to save the physically "disabled".

So, we can look forward to seeing more of Mr. Terry. Oh, goody.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 03:59 PM
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92. Michael Schiavo in hiding after death threats

Michael Schiavo in hiding after death threats
By Jacqui Goddard in Pinellas Park, Florida
(Filed: 03/04/2005)

Terri Schiavo's widower has gone into hiding because of the furore over his wife's death and has sought police protection.

Michael Schiavo, 41, is under guard three days after his disabled wife died from dehydration at a Florida hospice.


A protester outside the hospice where Terri Schiavo died

She had spent 13 days without food or water after a United States judge upheld Mr Schiavo's claim that she would not have wished to continue life in a persistently vegetative state.

"His goal is to find safe housing because of these death threats," said a friend, Alan Shoopak. "It's not over. Unfortunately, it's just beginning."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/04/03/wschi03.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/04/03/ixworld.html
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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93. So much for the "Culture of Life".....
Notice how he was the only one who wasn't getting his face on television after Terry's passing.....
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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94. Because he was the only one who had Terri's best interests on his mind.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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98. Exactly...EOM
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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95. My thought exactly
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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99. I just beat you to the post....
;)
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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96. "Culture of Life" = Murder anyone who stands in your way
:eyes:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 04:00 PM
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97. The hypocrisy is staggering!
Culture of life, my ass.

Bake
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 05:50 PM
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100. "We gonna KILL ya, ya murderin' heathen!!"
*a summary*

"We gonna kill ya, n'if'n we can't gitcha, we'll gitcha FAMILY!!"
"You mean, like my wife?"
"YEAH! YEAH! We'll rape'er, n'kill'er, n'rape'er dead body!! In the Lord's holy name!"
"Why would you do that?"
"BECAUSE YA MURDERED YA WIFE!! ...Waitaminnit..."
(Redneck's head smolders, explodes)
"...She was Jewish, you know."
(Remains of redneck's head immediately burst into intense flame)
(Redneck's body gets up, casually sits at bar, pours beer into neck)
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 02:07 AM
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102. Yikes! That "culture of life" isn't messing around!
Apparently they're going to prove how much they love life, even if it kills somebody!
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