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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:40 AM
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Lo, there came oilmen from the West
March 28, 2005

Times
By Ian MacKinnon
Biblical prophecies led an evangelical American to start drilling in northern Israel



WHEN oilmen go prospecting they usually put their faith in geologists to help their risky ventures. John Brown prefers to trust God and the Bible to make him and the State of Israel rich.

Later this week his company, Zion Oil, will begin drilling in a patch of dusty earth of northern Israel pinpointed by ancient biblical prophecies.

For the 65-year-old Michigan businessman the moment will mark the culmination of a two-decade journey that started when the evangelical Christian first came to Israel and read passages from the Old Testament suggesting great wealth lay below the Israeli landscape.

No matter that little oil had been discovered there. Mr Brown has persuaded hundreds of other American evangelical Christians to help him to raise the £3.6 million required for “Project Joseph”. He believes it is his life’s mission to unearth Israel’s oil wealth, secure the future of “God’s covenanted people”, and lay the ground for the Messiah’s return.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,170-1544369,00.html
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:46 AM
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1. Jesus and oil...
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 10:46 AM by Whoa_Nelly
Drill for oil and make the path of wealth the path for his return???

Yup...the world has gone completely nuts.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:50 AM
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3. “I know in my heart that what God told me was true"....
“I know in my heart that what God told me was true,” he said. “I’ve no doubt we will find oil. It’s not a matter of ‘if’, but ‘when’. I believe it’s my purpose in life. We’re going to help the people of the nation of Israel.”

Mr Brown’s reliance on biblical prophecies may seem far-fetched but he may yet have the last laugh. Recent scientific studies have shown a “high probability” of a commercial oil find of up to 500 million barrels — enough for 15 years’ production — and there was a big oil find further south last year.
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Tracts from the Old Testament books of Genesis and Deuteronomy foretold wealth in the ancient lands of the tribes of Joseph’s sons, Manasseh and Ephraim, and Jacob’s son, Asher. Moses says in Deuteronomy xxxiii, 24: “Most blessed of sons be Asher. Let him be favoured by his brothers and let him dip his foot in oil.”

When Mr Brown superimposed a map of the 12 tribes of Israel on the modern-day Holy Land, he decided that the most likely spot was the site near Maanit kibbutz, near Nazareth.
Endsnip

MAYBE the Lord will smite him down for his folly....
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:53 AM
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6. Or maybe the fool will just slip,
fall on his ass and bruise more than his ego.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:14 AM
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9. Huh?? Deut 33:24 talks about Olive Oil not crude oil..
..the land of the tribe of Asher was covered in Olive groves!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:19 PM
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15. Yes, and Levictus 45:35:25:15 says that Foot oil will reach $115 a barrel.
Bush and Cheney are making out well beyond even their own wildest
dreams.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:48 AM
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2. Messiah's return
lubricated with oil from the chosen land.

Very Biblical.

180
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:51 AM
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4. Snake oil?
The mighty serpent returns...
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:52 AM
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5. Zion Oil, the Website:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:54 AM
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"Delivering Israel from the tyranny of Muslim oil weapons":
“The one source of the kind of wealth that would achieve the conditions of the prophecies is oil,” Mr Lindsey told viewers. “A major oil discovery would not only deliver Israel from the tyranny of Muslim oil weapons, but also provide great wealth demanded by the Prophet Ezekiel. If Israel had a major oil discovery it would change the entire balance of power in the Middle East, and also the world.”

For that reason Mr Brown will not rest until he succeeds. “This is God’s promise to the people of Israel. In my journey I have a desire, a purpose, a destiny to help the people of Israel with their oil requirements,” he said. “When we discover oil it will be huge politically for the Israeli people.”

Prophet Ezekiel or Profit Easykill????????
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:54 AM
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7. What ever happened to the good old days,
when people who believed god talked to then were committed, not invested in.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:19 AM
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10. Exactly!
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 11:21 AM by Sentinel Chicken
Today crazy is considered an alternate view point.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:22 AM
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11. agree - used to be that people claiming to talk to god or hear his voice

in their head were sent for therapy. alcoholism seems connected in some way to some of these people.
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MileHiStealth Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:22 PM
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19. "were committed, not invested in"
or s-elected ...
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:08 AM
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8. A fool and his money...
And anyone foolish enough to be a fundamentalist is foolish enough to be an easy mark for religion-flavored scams.
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simcha_6 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:37 PM
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12. As if Israel wasn't corrupt enough
Now promises of oil come along. I hope they find nothing. I've been in Baku, Azerbaijan, and am dead-set against seeing oil wells in the most beautiful part of Israel. They need more investment in clean technology, not oil.

Any James Bond fans might remember the one where he goes to Azerbaijan. (Was it "Die Another Day?") Near the beginning, he's driving through oil wells, and then the pumps disappear and he drives into a small forest before coming to the city. That scene's doctored. There are no trees there- the entire Azerbaijani audience burst out laughing when they saw that scene. Oil seems more like a curse than a blessing. I know oil is cleaner to drill now, but I don't want to see oil wells in Israel.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:03 PM
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13. he should find SOMETHING if he drills enough
About 7,905 miles will poke a hole through to the other side of the earth.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:54 AM
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22. More likely it will be slant oil drilling
all the way to those lucrative fields in Iraq.

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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:00 PM
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14. I'm giving up writing satire
I can't dream up one thing anymore that isn't trumped by these yahoos within a day or two. Laying pipe for Jesus... now that's funny!
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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:22 PM
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16. God Himself moves me to render this motto
Zion Oil... laying pipe until the Lord returns
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:24 PM
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17. But, but, but...
I thought the rapture depended on the fall or destruction of Israel?????

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:59 PM
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18. I hope they do find oil
Only then can we be paid back for the billions we have given Israel.

OTOH, they better hope there is no oil... we will invade and take it.

Besides, Israel has great wealth already... Ours! There's not another country on this planet that we've propped up like Israel has been propped.
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huellewig Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 09:04 AM
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27. Just what I was thinking..
For every barrel they find I should get a class payed for or a cavity filled. I had to pay back my student loans.

Isreal is so BRITNEY SPEARS and Iraq is so JoJo!!!!
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:11 AM
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20. Try the Negev desert ...
I hear that there is quite a bit of fuel in that area ...

:evilgrin:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:50 AM
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21. Un-freaking-believable!!!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:56 AM
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23. So we have a whole religion
that got its start with a madman named Moses who roamed around the desert for 40 years looking for just the right spot of sand to call Israel. Then it turns out, that the one piece of real estate that he finally settles on is one of the few places in the area that had no oil. Not too mention, not much water either. What a genius, not.

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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:26 AM
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24. They listened to a bush also.
See what it got them?

Remember kiddies - history repeats itself.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:30 AM
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25. Maybe it was the local version of peyote that induced them
supernatural visions and caused voices in the head......

5000+ years on people are still buying into this stuff. And making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$s out of the gullible, scared and easily milked....

Zion Oil just one more notch on the bluffers' ledger.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 10:32 AM
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28. Moses....wasn't he the guy taking the tablets?
....
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 08:42 AM
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26. All those "Gods" get around, don't they?
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