Poll Finds Reduced Support on Soc. Sec. (among 18-29 yr olds)

[Rose Siding]

WASHINGTON - Support for President Bush (news - web sites)'s plan to create personal Social Security (news - web sites) retirement accounts which might include stocks or mutual funds has dropped over the last month among Americans under age 30, according to a poll released Thursday.

Young adults have been the strongest supporters of the proposal for months. Support among those 18-29 dipped from seven in 10 to just under half, according to the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. A quarter of young adults now say they're not sure how they feel about such personal accounts.

The poll found that just over four in 10, 44 percent, of all those polled, support creation of the accounts, down from 54 percent in December, while 40 percent are opposed.

The amount of support for the plan differs widely depending on how the question is worded.

When poll questions mention that people will have a reduced guaranteed benefit with the accounts, the support dips into the 30s with a majority opposing the plan. When the question emphasizes only the positive aspects of accounts, some GOP polls have found a majority supporting accounts.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050324/ap_on_go_pr_wh/social_security_opinion

[bluestateguy]

1. I'll tell you why

People 18-29 are more worried about being drafted in next year's coming war with Iran, rather then their retirement 40 years from now.

[0007]

2. It appears that the younger generation is getting hip to junior

and his double talk.

[coloradodem2005]

11. I always have been.

[rodeodance]

3. keep up the pressure--BushCo wants thiis reform BAD and will do

anything to get it!!

[Corgigal]

4. Maybe they just love their parents

OR don't want to responsible for their care when they get into their mid 60's.

[blm]

5. They're just realizing that THEY will be paying for their parents who will

be receiving REDUCED benefits under Bush's plans.

[AuntiBush]

6. They know a SMOKE SCREEN when they see one!

He thinks they're stupid & believes their parents and teachers will allow him to brain-wash them. Not as long as granny is alive, on no.

While he tried to divide granny's, and grandpa's, aunt's and uncles, and parents born before 1950 from their youth, he forgot one thing - they care, and worry about their children because their children come first. Not Bullshivtz!

Don't keep your eye on that ball. It's a smoke screen.

[calimary]

14. Besides, I think they misunderestimated these people.

I read it here somewhere - republi-CONS assumed everybody else was as baldly, blatantly selfish as they are themselves. That's why they've tried the "divide and conquer" strategy - isolate out the 55's and older by telling them THEY will be okay and their benefits won't be touched. Tempt the twenty-somethings with lots of pie-in-the-sky about how they'll have all these private accounts in the stock market and they'll all just magically somehow make this big killing and wind up with more than if it had been left, as is, in the Social Security machinery, and to hell with everybody else. They didn't bank (so to speak) on grandma and grandpa not caring so much about their own little retirement paradise and screw everybody else. No. Our elders went through the big war and the Depression and know what it's like to struggle. They endured the very conditions that compelled programs like Social Security to be instituted IN THE FIRST PLACE. They're not fooled by some slick-talking snake-oil salesmen (who, for the most part, aren't old enough to have any first-hand memory those hard times, anyway, or else were sufficiently well off from the get-go that they never felt any pain to begin with).

They didn't take into account that grandma and grandpa actually do care about their sons, daughters, and grandchildren, and their welfare and financial security. Grandma and grandpa America aren't selfish and short-sighted and hobbled by cavalier robber-baron attitudes. They happen to care about their younger generations. And a lot of the younger generation is smart enough to see how flaky the stock market really is. A lot of that same younger generation didn't buy bush in general last time, anyway. That demographic went largely for Kerry. They're already predisposed to look askance at any slimy shit these slickie-boys are trying to sell. Hey, bushies, these young 'uns are ON TO YOU. They're smarter than you give them credit for.

And not as many Americans share their selfish, greedy, short-sighted, shitty mentality, either. Something else the bushies didn't count on.

That's how the neocons and neofundies think. Get mine. Get it for me. Get it for now. Screw tomorrow. I ain't worrying my beautiful mind about it. We'll all be dead by then. Who cares. Live for today! The neocons will say - let somebody else figure it out. Pass the pain on to that other guy. Later, man. The neofundies will say - who cares? Jesus is coming. He's gonna wave his heavenly magic wand and just fix EVERYTHING! How DARE you be so unGodly as to doubt the Power of JEEEEEEsus! Either way, it's rape, loot, and pillage now, and live it up like there's no tomorrow. Because for them, there isn't. They don't acknowledge a tomorrow. Tomorrow's for somebody else to worry about and pick up the tab for.

[despairing optimist]

16. Absolutely right. Family values at work across the USA!

Older people won't be bought off with false assurances coming from the mouth of a chimpanzee. Younger people love the older people in their lives and want to honor the intergenerational commitment that has kept Social Security the most popular government program in US history. And even people who are unrelated to one another for the most part prefer that the money regularly sucked out of their paychecks go to something that's good instead of murderous wars and stupid, multibillion-dollar bombers and submarines and nukes.

I'm sure if everyone were given a check-off sheet to decide where their taxes would go, most would choose programs that help people live better lives. That's why we don't get the choice.

[Demeter]

7. And now it's called WELFARE! Ohh! Scary!

The whole meme of social security is insurance is out the window. The contract between generations---shredded. What is wrong with these people? Do they want a revolution? Don't they know who gets it in the end? Not the people who have nothing to lose--there are too many of them.

[adigal]

8. Looks like Granny got a hold of grandson

and told him about the Great Depression, and even the stock market crash of Reagan in 1987 (we never talk about that, do we???) and told grandson that his best bet is to invest on his own, but know that Social security will be there if bushie stops raiding the fund.

Go, Granny, Go!!!

[DemBones DemBones]

9. They'd better wise up quickly or they'll find themselves

at 60 with nothing but worthless "personal accounts" that won't provide for their retirement years. (And will probably be hugely in debt from having to help their parents whose benefits Bush** cut.)

[deadparrot]

10. Because we're going to

be doing the same work for the same amount of time, and getting less for it.

Yes, you better believe I'm pissed.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. I think Bush should go on tour again.

I bet he could cause the number of 18-29 year olds who support it to plummet even lower.

The more Bush talks about his "plan" the more people understand how wrong it is. That tour was a great idea. :)

[Megahurtz]

13. Ha - Ha!

Busheister DOES want this one bad, though. He's trying to push even harder.
Hopefully he'll push EVERYONE to see what a scamming con man he is.:evilfrown:

[meganmonkey]

15. "some GOP polls have found a majority supporting accounts."

Heh. Even their own damn bush-shit polls can't fake the results enough.

The president is an asswad, and everyone knows it. Nyah nyah nyah! :P

[Triana]

17. Those under 30 are the ones who will be hurt MOST by it!

If ANYONE who isn't collecting social security today supports this crap, they are STUPID and they're shooting themselves in the foot - because the ones yet to retire will be the ones who get screwed the worst.