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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:33 AM
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Rice: European Nations Must Not Arm China
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 06:35 AM by pinniped
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050320/ap_on_re_as/rice&sid=84439559

Rice: European Nations Must Not Arm China

By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer

BEIJING - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) suggested Sunday that European governments are irresponsible if they sell sophisticated weaponry to China that might one day be used against U.S. forces in the Pacific.

"It is the United States, not Europe, that is defending the Pacific," Rice said. She spoke in Seoul, the penultimate stop on her weeklong tour of Asia.

South Korea (news - web sites), Japan and the United States are all Pacific powers and all contribute resources to keep the Asia-Pacific region stable, Rice said.

The European Union (news - web sites) may soon lift an arms embargo on China that was imposed after the deadly 1989 crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square. Lifting the embargo would allow sale of technology and weapons that China badly wants to modernize its creaky military. China has recently gone on a military spending spree that Rice said concerns the United States.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050320/ap_on_re_as/rice&sid=84439559

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It's only ok if the US arms other nations.

Rice has one piehole that doesn't shutup.

These assclowns sure have many concerns. India, Iran, North Korea, China, Iraq, Turkey,...

--China has recently gone on a military spending spree that Rice said concerns the United States.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 06:49 AM
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1. and America should NOT being arming Pakistan, like it has been...
for 50 years now.

:eyes:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:05 AM
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15. Not to mention Israel, Egypt, Columbia, etc ad nausea.
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 10:06 AM by mom cat
:nuke: Maybe we humans shouldn't be arming anyone. Just a wish. Happy Equinox everyone.
:loveya: :grouphug: :loveya:
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:42 AM
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17. Isn't the United States of Freakin' America the #1 Arms dealer
on the planet. Since when did "we" not believe in capitalism flourishing wherever? :eyes: ummm, capitalism leads directly to deomcracy yeah, that it according to *...:eyes:
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:19 AM
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2. I & I says:
Europe should stop selling any military technology to US. US is a rogue nation currently engaged in illegal war of aggression against Iraq.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:25 AM
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3. B*sh's policies practically DEMAND that they do...
I have never seen such a crowd for not understanding the very basics of the concept of "cause and effect". It's completely foreign to them.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:42 AM
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10. Amen!
If we minded our own business, we wouldn't need to be out there telling other countries what to do. My God, our arrogance knows no bounds!
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:37 AM
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4. China? I think they will be very capable of arming themselves
The US is responsible for the only nuclear weapons in the Middle East. And they want to now tell the world who can and can't have weapons. Thw world isn't dumb. They see us as the bully who tells others how to live and at the same time tries to arm whoever they want to at anytime they want to. I smell a huge deal with Saudi Arabia in the not-to-far future. The US will soon decide that some stability is needed there.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:37 AM
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5. Or we'll do exactly WHAT?
Pour more French wine down the drain? Boycott the Euro? Rename Belgian waffles like we did French Fries? Surround The Vatican, perhaps?

:scared:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:39 AM
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6. Of course, the Bush Supremacy wants to rule the world a la Adolf Hitler.
One power alone in the world: BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:39 AM
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7. Perhaps they should arm Taiwan then.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:40 AM
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8. China is holding massive amounts of US debtor loans
methinks Rice should keep her piehole shut lest China start demanding their monies back, with interest.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:42 PM
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22. Isn't it true?
Remember last week, when Condaloser was hammering away at Japan for some reason (I forgot). A very wise person posted, "shouldn't you be a little more respectful to Japan when you OWE THEM $700 billion big ones?"

I'm truly amazed, every time I read stuff like this. It's like the US doesn't even realize who is the debtor here, and who is the CREDITOR. It's them. It's China, too.

And, notice Rice doesn't have the nuts to actually come out and lecture China. She does it in a sneaky, roundabout way, lecturing the suppliers.

There's no doubt in my mind Washington IS AFRAID of China. But they've painted their asses into a corner, so they're a little bit locked in.

Fools. Every one of them.:smoke:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:41 AM
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9. Empty threat, Rice, empty threat. And you know that.
Or are you setting up the stage for letting loose 'the untamed fire of freedom'?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:16 AM
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11. Is she totaly clueless?
Did she smack her head when ice skating?

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:30 AM
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12. American aerospace contractors sold China ICBM technology
But the Europeans can't sell them tactical weapons.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:37 AM
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13. Rice was just in Japan with a beef about beef
Namely, Japan is prohibiting the import of American beef because of concerns about BSE, but Rice came here to try to, uh, persuade, Japan to drop the import ban. "It's not just a trade matter", she said, as quoted in the Asahi newspaper, "it could have a bad effect on Japanese-American relations".

Wow, nothing like twisting the arms of your few remaining friends over something as trivial as beef.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:43 AM
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14. I, for one, am happy that they are keeping US beef out
Not to threadjack or anything, but I am happy that the beef in my dinner tonight came from 30 km away rather than from the USA.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:19 AM
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16. To prepare for this China visit Rice first went directly to the US S.Korea
underground C3 base, like a fucking war whore neo-con PNACer not a United States of America Secretary of State. She's a major Vulcan, people.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:18 PM
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18. "U.S., not Europe, defends Pacific region, Rice says"
That's the headline in Canada....

Beijing — U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice suggested Sunday that European governments are irresponsible if they sell sophisticated weaponry to China that might one day be used against U.S. forces in the Pacific.

"It is the United States, not Europe, that is defending the Pacific," Ms. Rice said. She spoke in Seoul, the penultimate stop on her weeklong tour of Asia.

South Korea, Japan and the United States are all Pacific powers and all contribute resources to keep the Asia-Pacific region stable, she said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050320.wrice0320/BNStory/International/

Petulance is not a foreign policy
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:24 PM
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19. Does anybody anywhere pay attention Rice?
And if they do, why do they?

It's in everybody's best interest if her bizarre proclamations are universally ignored.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:28 PM
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20. Geez, someone needs to send her to diplomacy school...
or at least force her to read "Everything I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten". Even kindergarten children know to respect each other, share, tell the truth. It seems Ms. Rice missed that part of her kindergarten class.

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:38 PM
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21. The Euros want the US to strengthen the dollar or they'll look for new
profit centers for there exports, like China. In return for GPS, cruise missile technology, space technology, etc, the Chinese let the Germans take over their car industry, the French their commercial aerospace and healthcare, etc, quid pro quo.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:56 PM
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23. On top of that, many countries are looking to reduce their
dependence on the US to buy their exports and are looking for new markets. That way, when the US economy hits rock bottom, the damage to the world economy overall will be reduced.

Greenspan actually told the truth recently when he admitted he no longer knows what is going to happen and what he 'expected' to happen hasn't occurred. That should scare the crap out of the US public, imo. The only way to strengthen the US dollar is to raise interest rates and if that is done, the faux economy that is being touted as strong will crash very quickly. There are those who believe that reducing imports to the US will help strengthen the domestic economy and that used to be so but no longer because the US is no longer a manufacturing giant, it is simply a consumer giant and Greenspan et al know it ergo they can't raise interest rates to where they should be, imo.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:28 PM
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25. The truth is, NOBODY among the neocons have any idea what they're doing
Not in international affairs, not in domestic affairs, not monitarily. They are simply drunk with tax dollars and power, and can't get enough of spending either one in foolish ways.

They just plain forgot to include in their equations the fact that OTHER people/leaders in the world exist as something other than just pawns. If THAT isn't the sign of a sociopath, nothing is!

From bush to Greenspam, every single one of them has NO plan that COULD WORK, to lead the masses of people that would normally depend on them in a direction that provides health, security, and long term viability. They're irresponsible, short-sighted, and dangerous to the world.

:kick::kick::kick:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:05 PM
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24. My God these people are irony impaired
"China has recently gone on a military spending spree that Rice said concerns the United States."

With our money!

Maybe our "Secretary of State" should learn how "to do economics...."

I honestly don't know how this woman managed to get a PhD-
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:44 PM
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26. Neo-cons will rename the Euro, the "Freedo"
You will have to buy Freedos, not Euros. And if you take a vacation to Europe, you have to call it a holiday in Freedonia. They also plan to rename the moon of Saturn from Europa to Libertania.

A CNN headline of the future - "The Freedonia Space Agency is planning a mission to Libertania, which is expected to cost 1 billion Freedos".
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 08:43 PM
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27. Iran (1980) : U.S. must not arm Iraq.
Did we listen? No!
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