Berlusconi told to face up to US over shooting

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/03/07/whost07.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/03/07/ixworld.html

Hey Berlusconi. Italians can be very unforgiving of its leaders. This could be you if you don't watch your step.

Mussolini and others hanging for public display.

Politicians of all parties denounced prime minister Silvio Berlusconi's dealings with America yesterday after an Italian hostage negotiator was killed and a journalist wounded by US forces in Iraq.

An American patrol opened fire on the car carrying Giuliana Sgrena to the airport near Baghdad, turning what should have been the joyous end of her month-long kidnapping into a tragedy. snip

From within Mr Berlusconi's centre-Right coalition, Gianni Alemanno, the agriculture minister, spoke out, saying: "Italy must defend its honour.

"We may be trusted allies, but we cannot give the impression of being subordinate."

Bobo Craxi, an ally, and the son of the late premier Bettino Craxi, attacked Mr Berlusconi's "subordinacy" to the US.

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[skylarmae]

1. georgie porgie and his cohorts cannot be allowed to get away

with this one. IMO

[autorank]

3. ...but Berlusconi will let them. He is their W's bitch.

[Mojambo]

5. No kidding. He is one corrupt SOB n/t

[autorank]

14. Believe it or not, he own's 90% of the media in Italy (or something like

that) 90% of television/press. What a fucking joke they are! They'regiving us a run for our money. And it's such a great place and wonderful bunch of people.

[AndyTiedye]

18. Maybe 90% Is Not Enough. Here They Have All The TV, 99% of Radio & Print

[autorank]

23. haha...excellent point! Who owns the 1%?

[Horse with no Name]

22. KUDOS to the other 10%

for getting their story out there.
Much better than our lame-stream media.

[autorank]

24. Our CM(corporate media) is the "worst of the worst."

I'm sure the vast majority of Italians don't believe much of Mr. B's patter. Here, people either believe or just take general assumptions on faith.

[joeybee12]

2. Yup, this is big news in Italy and all over Europe...but do you think

the average Joe Schmoe in the US will ever hear anything about this? Probably not with the Republican propoganda machine that has become the MSM.

[sr_pacifica]

9. It's up to us to make noise

Contact the White House, your reps, news sites. Bloggers unite! The mainstream media is treating this like event as a regrettable blunder. Any one who feels strongly about this needs to take action to pressure the administration to indeed investigate. Turn up the heat.

[Pachamama]

28. Imagine if the same had happened to a US Journalist & US Intelligence

Officer...We'd be invading Italy by now! The US Media Whores wouldn't/Couldn't stop talking it if it had been them there in the same situation!

[Canuckistanian]

4. Wow, all that good work on the European Tour

Now shot to ribbons. Nice work, Georgie.

Not to say that he's personally responsible, but at least now he can't deny that things are EXTREMELY fucked up in Iraq. And that he IS responsible for.

[DBoon]

21. He IS personally responsible

Whether he admits it or not, that comes with the job.

Harry Truman's sign "the buck stops here" is always the case. Nixon found this out the hard way.

[ananda]

29. no buck

Bushco doesn't believe in bucks, only credit and huge debt.

Remember: IOKIYAR.

Sue

[DBoon]

35. The buck doesn't stop with Bush

It sees Bush and runs away screaming in terror!

[confludemocrat]

6. He is a self-serving whore,

seemingly a contradiction in terms but wholly appropriate to this guy.

As another point of info, France 2 reported that among evidence that this was no accident is that there is an American sergeant who was known to have killed 40 Iraqis at checkpoints in 48 hrs. So, what we have here is anywhere from a deliberate assassination to a negligent display of the wanton disregard for human life that the U.S. has shown from day one.

Even Red China can rebuke the U.S. govt for this wantonness and be credible in the eyes of the world for saying it. Thanks George Bush, for placing us in this position!

[Just Me]

7. I'll bet 3/19 & 20 will be more record-breaking protests!!!

Has any single world leader ever incited the world-wide protests that Bush has?

:shrug:

I can not think of one.

[marmar]

8. I hope ...

Italians will follow the lead of their Spanish contemporaries and send yet another Bush ass-kissing government packing. I love that the "Coalition of the Willing" continues to fall apart at the seams. Are you quaking yet, Tony Blair?
It's sad that we're going to be left alone in Iraq, where we shouldn't be anyway, but the global village has spoken.

[Jacobin]

10. It never ceases to amaze me how one relatively small incident

can change the course of events.

Kent State (four kids killed, compared to 55,000 soldiers killed in Vietnam) changed the entire course of the debate then.

Here's hoping this debacle will help at least get more of the 'coalition' to get out.

[Pachamama]

30. Isn't it? It's like a small pebble rolling that starts an avalanche, when

the large boulder rolling didn't seem to make a difference....

Yet, to the Italians (and I hardly blame them) this is more than a large pebble....

Sometimes, it is the Kent State's and the little pebbles that need to happen to get the course of events to be debated and changed....

[gademocrat7]

31. I agree

maybe this will spark the debate. Italy should leave Iraq as well as the rest of the'coalition'.

[TreasonousBastard]

11. Harrumphhhhhh...

a few words about doubling the tariffs on Italian olive oil, pasta, tile, marble, shoes...

and the Italian people can bitch all they want, but the government caves.

[0007]

12. What a parallel, eh?

Mussolini was connected to Hitler as Berlusconi is connected to junior.

This will be interesting to watch!

[Blue to the bone]

13. "we cannot give the impression of being subordinate"!!! WTF?

Who's he think he's kidding? They've got their noses so far up the Chimps ass they can see daylight.

[NNN0LHI]

16. Italy is still under US occupation more than 50 years after WWII ended

That guy must be on drugs or something. You would think the Italians would eventually put 2 and 2 together and tell the US to pack their shit up and head on down the highway. Maybe they like being US puppets?

Don

[Disturbed]

17. Independent Investigation.

Having the DOD or any U.S. agency investigate would be like having foxes investigate the hen house murders.

The family of the slain man and the injured reporter should file a law suit against the U.S. Govt.

[alphafemale]

20. OMG! That pic of Hitler is like pics of * where they try to deify him!

:wow: :scared:

[Judi Lynn]

25. That's probably where Rove learned that cheap trick......

Crooked, sneaky, bound to hypnotize the slow Republicans who need someone to lead them to the Rapture!

[cliss]

15. It's going to be interesting to watch the little

'Danny De Vito' lookalike. The next week should be very interesting. I'll be reading LBN with interest.

Some tips for Silvio:
1) Don't expect Bush to come to your rescue. Whatever your back-room agreements with Bush, promises mean nothing to him. Didn't you look behind his back?

2) Bush eventually betrays all his friendships. When you're cronies with him, you will pay and pay and pay.

3) Other European countries will not help you, either. In particular, Spain is feeling like you "sold out".

4) The money he promised you & the oil that he promised to share might not materialize in the future. ***Some interesting develoments have happened since you signed the documents***. Silvio: go to LBN, look up articles on "Iran".

5) Don't be surprised if your Italian subjects turn their anger onto you.

Tails, you lose.

[Pachamama]

32. Kick for the "Tips" to Silvio! Yeah, Berlusconi, you might want to review

these!

Definitely Tails you lose!

PS: The reference to look up the articles on Iran in reference to Oil is an especially important point Silvio...Georgie has and will continue to screw you and the world and if he screws with Iran, your going to be feeling pain too....And you might think you own the media in your country, but you don't own the minds and hearts of the people there...my Italian friends are not talking about you in the friendliest terms...(not that they ever were, but now you really are worse than the lapdog of George W.....)

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[nolabels]

26. I wonder if cracks are starting to develop in them coalitions?

Let Georgie show you how to make many new friends everyday :think:

[Domitan]

27. When is the next national election in Italy?

I would hope...very soon!

[NNN0LHI]

33. '06 n/t

[JNelson6563]

34. Fascist vs. fascist

that would be interesting.

Julie

[jmcgowanjm]

36. Time for another Bologna train bombing?

The Hegelian Dialectic.

The "Strategy of Tension" was (is) "a carefully designed plan
to fabricate so much leftist terrorism that the Italians
would demand an authoritarian or even fascist
government."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CON403A.html