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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:44 AM
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AP: New Iraq Said Must Be Islamic State
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050228/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_shiite_leader_q_a&cid=540&ncid=1480

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A leader of a key Shiite political organization, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (news - web sites), al-Hakim opposed Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) from exile in Iran (news - web sites) before returning after the U.S.-led invasion.


The alliance he leads with the backing of Iranian-born Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the country's most powerful Shiite cleric, took 140 of the 275 seats in the National Assembly, the body charged with writing a new constitution.


Al-Sistani also endorsed the alliance's choice for prime minister, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, leader of the conservative Islamic Dawa Party, silencing support for the secular Shiite Ahmad Chalabi.


In an interview Sunday with The Associated Press, al-Hakim said the new Iraq must be an Islamic state with laws that do not offend the faith. He said Shiite leaders also envision a federal system that would rely on Iraqis to fight insurgents.


He spoke in Arabic, at his heavily fortified office in central Baghdad:

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:50 AM
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1. bush's total f*ck-up is so immense. Get rid of a SECULAR leader who
fought Islamic Fundamentalist extremists...and turn Iraq into an Islamic Fundamentalist state full of extremists.

Which of course is exactly what all the world's top experts warned would happen.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:07 AM
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2. I'm laughing. . . with tears in my eyes, running down my cheeks . . .
laughing while I cry. What more can we do when 'I told you so' seems so incredibly inadequate?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:14 AM
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3. bush is our POSEIDON ADVENTURE. he has turned our democracy upside down,
not to mention what he has done in IRAQ. The insurgents in Iraq are the people trapped inside THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE trying to right their upside down world. we, the dissenters, those who oppose bush and think the man is pure, simple and unadulterated stiercol, also are the people trapped inside bush's POSEIDON ADVENTURE, looking for a way to right the upside down course on which bush has set our country and the entire world...the pope said it, even before bush invaded iraq and charged him with being the sole human being responsible for changing the entire course of humanity. AND MOMMY AND POPPY ARE PROUD AS HELL OF THEIR STIERCOL PEACOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(you can tell bush makes me angry too)!
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:40 AM
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12. I'm sure Condi is "disappointed."
But who knows, maybe * will "fix" the problem and establish a Christian theocracy there, as he's doing here.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/507794
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:20 AM
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4. There you have it.....
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AP: Islamic Sharia and the constitution?

Al-Hakim: There are three points: first, that there must be a respect for the Islamic identity. Second, that Islam is the official religion of the state. Third, that there should not be any law that violates Islam.


:crazy: fucking neo-cons...
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:27 AM
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5. The women of Iraq likely won't be thanking Bush for their "freedom." n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:44 AM
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6. bushco** likes to pretend women had it bad under Saddam...
The fact is the Women of Iraq have never had it so bad as they do now. The US has made life for women so much worse...

http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=27569

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LONDON, Feb 22 (IPS) - The situation for Iraqi women has got worse in many respects since the U.S.-led invasion two years back, says a report from Amnesty International.

''The current lack of security has forced many women out of public life and constitutes a major obstacle to the advancement of their rights,'' says the report 'Iraq: Decades of suffering - Now women deserve better' published Tuesday.

The report seeks to highlight the present situation and not compare it to the Saddam days. ''It is difficult to make a comparison because the situation was also very bad before,'' Nicole Choueiry from Amnesty told IPS.

Kidnapping and rape are reported to be a continuing problem. ''This is not something that started with the invasion and then stopped,'' she said.

This subject is taboo in Iraq but Amnesty has received several testimonies that this remains common, Choueiry said. ''Women have been kidnapped for ransom, and many have been raped while they were kidnapped.'' The extent of the problem is very difficult to establish, she said.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:01 AM
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7. The Bush Junta cares only about one a couple of things.
Oil and Natural Gas

It matters zero whether Iraq is an Islamic state, so are the rest of the states the Bush Junta are propping up. Women's rights? Bush Junta cares about that? Women could be in the same situation that the Taliban had them in and the Bush Junta would say some phony crap about it like Laura did and do nothing about it. The Bush Junta were trying to make deals with the Taliban but those Fundie idiots didn't want the deal.

Oil and Natural Gas.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:06 AM
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9. Given the trend of things for women here in the US,
this doesn't surprise me. In fact, I think we can look at Iraq as *'s model for American women.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:03 AM
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8. $300 Billion, 1500 dead and countless injured to create an Islamic State
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:22 AM
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11. A tate in which you cannot get electricity, water and basic living items.
That is if you can live through the day.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:40 AM
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10. Well isn't that nice
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 08:45 AM by Freedom_from_Chains
The Iraqi’s can now descend into a internal war over whether they should be a secular society or a theocratic society, much the same as we are doing.

I guess American values way of life is really catching on over there.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:18 AM
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13. Wonderful. We suffered immensely in overthrowing one vile dictator,
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 10:19 AM by GOPBasher
just so we can get another one in control of Iraq. Oh, and this one might ACTUALLY, REALLY support terrorists, since he's the leader of an Islamic theocracy. Heil Bushler! What a smart guy!
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