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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:21 AM
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At 9, He's stumping for Bush's social security plan
Before commenting, remember this guy is only 9. Also, if you read the article http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-02/27/content_419820.htm you will read that his mom is a Dem, so you can't even blame the parents!

At 9, He's stumping for Bush's social security plan
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(New York Times)
Updated: 2005-02-27 15:09
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The battle over Social Security has been joined by an unusual lobbyist, a 9-year-old from Texas who has agreed to travel supporting President Bush's proposal.

(snip)

In a sign of how far groups go to carry their message on Social Security, Progress for America has signed up Noah, a fourth grader, as a volunteer spokesman. He starts on spring break from James Williams Elementary School in Katy, Tex.

(snip)

Noah will travel to a handful of states ahead of visits by the president and will go on radio programs, answer trivia questions and say a few words about Social Security. Though he is obviously not an expert (and not really a lobbyist, either), officials say the effort is a lighthearted way to underline Mr. Bush's message.

(snip)

Noah plans to run for the White House in 2032 - and he wants Social Security addressed before then.

"It will be bankrupt when I'm president," he said.


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-02/27/content_419820.htm
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:24 AM
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1. exploiting children...yup, that's family values, alright....
:eyes:

Why, pray tell is the mother allowing this? It is one thing to encourage your child to read and develop their own opinions, but to allow others to exploit those earliest opinions of childhood (which most of us may recall, DO change over time)....:shrug:

As Forest Gump reminds us, "stupid is as stupid does..."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:49 AM
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83. he is making money and his parents are allowing it.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:07 AM
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86. Then his parents are stupid fucking shits and NOT real Democrats
EOM
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:25 AM
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2. Obviously the child
has a LOT to learn about reality and history......... Sounds like the parents are exploiting him as well as the cabal.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:26 AM
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3. This bumptious little brat needs a spanking
I won't discuss what his parents need. I would get tombstoned for extreme obscenity.

Seriously, people who use their kids as propagandists are scum.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:26 AM
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4. At least there'll be ONE sober 9 year old in the presidential entourage.nt
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:27 AM
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5. excellent. n/t
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:38 PM
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31. maybe
but did you ever see a kid who had too much sugar?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:32 AM
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6. In case you think this is some esoteric story, it was in the NYT also
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:34 AM by BlueEyedSon
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:42 AM
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10. Awesome, I Wonder When...
we will be having a 9-year old out stumping for the death penalty. These people have no shame. NONE!

Jay

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:47 PM
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102. 9-yr olds for Veterans Tax, and Support the Millionaire Tax Break Club
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:36 AM
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7. So...Why don't we Dems find a clever little 9 year old girl to challenge
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:37 AM by KoKo01
the little brat to a debate? Otherwise this kid is going to be all over the airwaves and get huge attention...a Media Star for Bush.

Anyone have a bright 9 year old kid who would volunteer? I thought of a female, because it would have more PR value but any Dem 9 year old would be great. :D
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:54 AM
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19. I nominate that cute little Wexler girl who wanted to put Cheney on in
time out. I think she's about twelve or thirteen, though.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:57 AM
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21. Hey, she'd be perfect ... give it that OLDER sister "beat me up"
whiny little brother image to their little snot nosed brat boy ... yes, THIS IS GOOD!

Democratic "powers that be" - are you listening?!? ;)
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:19 PM
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27. I could just picture two 9-year-olds in a debate
They'd just sound like the Republicans on the House floor!
Did not! Did too!

I know a clever 10-year-old boy who hates Bush with a passion. I have a mind to recruit him--he's very argumentative and doesn't lose many arguments--to counter this little brat!
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:00 PM
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51. Jon Stewart's already done it!
"Great Moments in Punditry" is absolutely hilarious!

:toast:
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:28 PM
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72. i was just going to say that!
it's amazing how having children read a script with coulter, hannity, colmes, and other misc guest, gives you a deeper look at the pundits dialogue and the ridiculousness of it..
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:38 AM
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8. I wonder how much little Noah is getting paid?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:48 AM
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13. it's pathetic to be exploited by one's parents
And I seriously doubt "Mommy" in this case ever WAS a democrat. :eyes:

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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:49 AM
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15. More importantly how much are Noah's PARENTS being paid
for their son to travel across the country whoring for Bush?

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:04 PM
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53. probably enough that:
1: he'll never have to worry about buying his way into Ivy League
2: he'll never have to worry about collecting SS
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:41 AM
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9. Marketing ploy
this kid will be featured on the tee vee, written about, photo oped and will be an irresistable draw in his young innocence to many parents and grandparents. I think Democrats need to do the same thing. Get some little baby faced kid to go around talking about his poor old grammy etc and fight fire with fire.l It may seem unethical, but it would immediately make this kid, hired by the Progress for America,(I don't think he is paid with a pay check) null and void.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:00 PM
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23. The GOP have a 9 year old James Guckert/Jeff Gannon? How nice
of this childs parents. To let their offspring prostitute for the Bu$h family evil empire. Just when you think the GOP can`t sink any lower. They prop up some little boy from their evil abyss. Users and abusers sure defines the repukes well.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:54 PM
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35. I humbly have to disagree
I'm delighted to read this cuz I think it is the stupidest thing the repubs ever did and will surely haunt them during ss hearings and re-election bids, but my heart breaks for this little kid who I think is going to a horrible time in school.

And I think that things are too serious for the senior citizens to feel much comfort in a 9-year-old out there trying to screw up their retirement. Many seniors grew up in a time when kids were seen but not heard.

Middle age adults will have kids of their own or grandchildren and know damn well a 9-year-old doesn't have the cognetive abilities for critical thought but can regergitate what it hears in an adult sounding way.

If my son was over in Iraq, the last thing I want is a little kid taking time from the serious business at hand. It is not the time nor place for cute and I don't think it is a good move.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:28 PM
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50. I agree..
Besides, nobody really likes a 9 year old know-it-all, particularly when he's trying to tell them what to do.

He's a cute kid and his ability to retain facts is neat, but turning him into a sideshow act to promote SS is dumb, dumb dumb.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:10 PM
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56. Yeah right. Remember when Carter got reamed-
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 04:10 PM by Danmel
for saying he talked about nuclear disarmament with then 10 year old Amy?


But if a Repub does it- it will be cute and brilliant and "unifying"- just you wait and see!

(I don't think most people will buy that I just think that's how the MSM will spin it)
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:44 PM
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66. i don't think so and have given up pretty much on magical thinking and
hope or faith in the abiolity of the majority of Americans to actualy parse it with critical thinking. They do not have a clue to any of the issues invoving SS--all they seem to know that it is

1. giving their money to keep seniors alive

2. since it is their money, they should have it and not give it to social programs wasted on older citizens when they will not see any benefits at retirement age. That is "communism" or "socialism"!

The fact is that we have a Bush administration with 90 mil dollars to spend on marketing and PR advertising. I haven't a clue as to how much they have spent so far on pushing the privatization of SS, but I will bet is quite a substantial sum--taking into consideration the traipsing all over the country by Bush in AF I to sell his snake oil to the vulnerable--which we pay for -- to make it worse.

If the past is any indication, I think this marketing using a nine year old child, will resonate with the people because all he has done in the past using the same technique.

We seem to have become a nation vulnerable to marketing. It is unbelievable to those of us who can see through it, but, it won him the election using the same techniques re the issue of gay marriage and abortion, and there are still those out there who will support this because of this marketing technique of using a nine year old to appeal to the older groups and also the younger groups.

We can only wait and see.
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MileHiStealth Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:46 AM
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11. That makes perfect sense .....
The rest of the * cartel have the intellect
of a bunch of 9 year olds ....
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:35 PM
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43. The little kid should fit right in then,. They should get about eight
more little kids and then they could do a dance routine.
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:47 AM
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12. Wow, what a credible supporter
The sick part is, it's going to work. Anybody want to start a pool on how long before the first "out of the mouths of babes..." shit is regurgitated by Fox?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:51 AM
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17. How many kids have 3000 books on presidential history?
:shrug:

My guess is that the parents think their precious little darling is pretty special, and are willing to exploit him.

Sad.
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:57 AM
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20. I don't buy that for a second
That's a lie, most adults haven't read 3000 books, let alone own them. I REALLY don't believe this kid has a collection the size of a wing of the public library devoted to his political reading.

The closest thing I can think of that MIGHT make this a true statement is if somebody in the family did a self-published book and they've got 3000 unsold copies of it in their garage.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:09 PM
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25. I never did either.
:)
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:24 PM
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28. 2975 of them are on Reagan. n/t
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:32 PM
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29. That kid is going to seriously rebel as a teenager........
;) Having Reagan books as your only reading material will do that to a kid!
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:44 PM
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32. Maybe he will be president in 2032...the 'Democratic' president. n/t
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:32 PM
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73. ugghhh!
when is hannity or o'riley going to have this kid on? i will puke all over the tv screen in utter helplessness. then i will secretly laugh at this little kid because he's going to get f'ed in the A by Sean Hannity later. unfortunately, hannity will still only have ann coulter on his 'who will have sex with me' list
sorry, totalyl random...
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:49 AM
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14. Cute. I didn't know dick when I was 9, either. Hopefully, he'll learn. NT
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:45 AM
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82. Well exactly
at 9 I was a monarchist. Ah, how times change...
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:24 AM
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87. I can top that, Vladimir: I was a REPUBLICAN when I was 9! LOL n/t
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:50 AM
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16. This was the only supporter they could GET?
The Bush maladministration can only find supporters among those who are used to doing what they're told without question: children, lower-rank soldiers, and evangelicals.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:54 AM
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18. "Psst! GI! You like boom-boom my sister?"
The Reichpublicans have children pimping for the corporatist whores.

I absolutely detest any 'cause' that has children pimping for it. I don't give a shit whether it's the Girl Scouts, the Booster Club, the local presstitutes, or magazines selling subscriptions, children should not be sent out to pimp for adults.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:59 AM
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22. "Pretty Baby"... No doubt the boy will sit next to "Jeff Gannon" of
"Talon News", as he jets around the country to spread his... message.

Jeff can teach the little tyke how to be a good prostitute.

What a good mom--making sure her little boy learns all about capitalism at an early age.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:07 PM
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24. Yes, Republicans like true intellectuals ONLY as long as
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 12:07 PM by ElectroPrincess
they're very young and easily manipulated. After all, it makes these little know-it-all brats readily available for their (the RW's) rotten tykes to beat up and steal their lunch money for sport ... But Wait! "It's OK only AFTER the tiny FREAK has served our purpose little Brutus," said Mr. Peabody.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:39 PM
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44. Who said this little kid is smart? I think he's a bit on the retarded
side because he wants to be pretzeldent when he grows up.
Anyone with an IQ of a chimp and plenty of money can do THAT, as
opposed to say a physicist.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:14 PM
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26. Teaching a kid to lie at nine, Republican values. SS is fully funded
until 2042. How can it be backrupt in 2032? Sorry kid, back to your shitty little Texas school.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:35 PM
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30. Oh is that not CUTE!!
The little boy is worried about his social security in 60 years. I guess no one told him that he needs to worry more about the safety of his air and water, or even a super-heated surface of earth, long before he "retires".
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Actually
all a nine-year-old little boy should worry about is homework, the bully on the playground and the little-red-head girl at the bus stop who makes him feel so nicely funny.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:56 PM
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36. In some Utopian world maybe...
at that age, I was worried about nuclear annihilation, not unlike the kids from informational videos in the 1950s, scrambling under their schoolroom desks for safety, and as if that were not enough, we had to worry about environmental concerns too. As a result I rode a bike or walked most of my adult life when I could. It has shaped who I am in many ways. It is sad, but it is the reality in which we exist.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:17 PM
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71. i am that little red haired girl...
dammit, this means we're going to have to go with what this whipper snapper likes, cuz we gotta do it for the children! egads.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:46 PM
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34. I wonder where he's getting these opinions from?
And Tom Delay is on his list of good buddies, here's an article (I found on a blog) from just before the democratic convention:

http://www.gregsopinion.com/archives/004787.html

After three previous appearances, Noah was asked by Jay Leno to be the Tonight Show correspondent at the Democratic National Convention in Boston.

Noah will be featured Thursday on Leno's NBC show, which airs in Houston at 10:30 p.m. on Channel 2, with possible cameos on Tuesday and Wednesday, as well.

"I don't even want to go," Noah said, rolling his eyes. "They're Democrats. They're meanies. Supposedly, it'll be funny."
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:03 PM
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52. I just threw up
:puke:
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:57 PM
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37. Cute little boy,
but where is the big W on his forehead. Shame on the parents and Progress for America. Who bought this kid 3,000 books on presidential history! Take a break little boy. I hear Harry Potter is a fun read.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:08 PM
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38. this is LOW- next they need KIDS whose parents died wanting NO HELP
Isn't Bush's mind about on the level of a 9 year old?

I know his I.Q is in the 80's (no joke, that' true)

Entitlement Program
This is the KEY WORD-
They conveniently neglect to address the DIFFERENCE between a govt controlled "account" and an "ENTITLEMENT" program.

WE need more propaganda like this BRAT 9 yr old who has NO CLUE.
Get some kids whose parents died in a car wreck saying that they'd like the money they were going to receive to live on to go to the richest one percent...or for Iraq.

Then get some disabled accident victims to support the idea they're fine without government Entitlement.

And get every person that Social Security helps, and have them confirm that they are SO AFRAID they're going to lose their entitlement that we need to end the "entitlement" part of the program right away, so they you just get what you pay in.

Just like the Clear Skies initiative that allows factories to pollute MORE.
And the Healthy Forest Initiative that allows Lumber industry to clear cut the "oldest" finer quality trees from our NATIONAL FORESTS.
And how bout that Oil Drilling in the Alaska Wildlife Refuge?
Guess the trash dumping near the sites and the spillage will HELP the animals.


These guys are banking on the fact that Americans are the least informed people in the world (thanks to to controlling the media)- What is it, 60 percent still believe that we found weapons of "mASS" destruction in Iraq..and 50 percent still believe Iraq had something to do with 911?

Look around- help your fellow DUMBASS- just mention one thing to one new ill informed citizen a day---
The life you save may be your country's.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:15 PM
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39. FReepers listen to Bush. Why wouldn't they listen to a 9 year old?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:20 PM
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40. What was the youngest age for the Hitler Youth in Germany,
or the Young Pioneers in the USSR?
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:30 PM
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41. DUPE - self delete
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 01:31 PM by phusion
Dupe...
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:30 PM
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42. I've seen him on Leno...
He knows his American history very well...pretty amazing.

Too bad he's been sucked into the republican vortex.

He says he's running for president in 2034...
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:55 PM
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45. Saw him too, not impressed. Be a lot more impressed if he could do
math instead of simply remembering names.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:07 PM
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49. exactly, memorizing facts is entertaining
but doesn't mean you know history. Simply knowing information, without understanding, is not learning, it's rote memorization, good for Jeopardy, fun at parties, not much use.

And roughly the intellectual development one would expect of a precosious nine-year old.

Honestly, the kid sounds a lot like he might have a touch of Ausbergers' the obsessive memorisation is a clue. I wish him well in his progress.

Wait, can I ask him a question? Just one question, on live TV "since the Plan that President Bush is apparently going to propose will require 5 Trillion dollars of deficit spending over the next 35 years, doubling the federal deficit (and requiring annual debt payments of roughly 250 Billion dollars/year, just to finance the social Security debt, and an increase of $250 Billion dollars a year would push back the so-called "bankruptcy' of Social Security to roughly the year 2100, how is it that this makes sense to you? Under the projections of this administration, the annual payments just to service the national debt will rise to roughly $750 BILLION dollars a year by 2020. How will your administraiton govern in a time when every single american is paying $3,500/year just to service the naitonal debt?
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:56 PM
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46. that's the best support * can find for his "plan"
a 9-year old. Yep, that's also the mentality of those that support this corrupt thieving policy. :wtf: does a 9-year old know anyway?

GETTING DESPERATE * ARE YOU?

:kick:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:24 PM
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47. It's not summertime yet
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 02:27 PM by rocknation
shouldn't he be in school?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:26 PM
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48. You might think there'd be some things even shrubco wouldn't do.
But, I guess not.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:06 PM
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54. Who is "Progress for Amreica"? Follow the money.....
So PfA has a kid doing their dirty work for them. Ought to be prosecutable as child abuse...

Noah, you'd better save every DIME the ReTHUGs are paying you (they ARE paying you, right?) for your retirement, because if Bush gets his way, you'll be eating dog food when you're 65 if you don't save, hoping you can make it another 20 years to "official" retirement at 85...

Shoot, you'll be eating dog food anyway. Or Soylent Green made from Liberals....
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:07 PM
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55. Even if we do nothing at all, it is solvent for another fifty years.
It can never go bankrupt.
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David K. Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:31 PM
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57. Isn't Show Business Wonderful?
Hmmm, 'wonder if he will have an IRA or 401k or what out of this income stream?
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:32 PM
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62. GAWD I hate know it all kids
if everyone is as annoyed as I am by this that kid will be going back home SOON
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:00 PM
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58. Thought for sure it was going to be one of Parlock's kids.
Good luck with that run for the WH in 2032. If Republican policy prevails, there won't be a country left by that time.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:25 PM
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59. Finally, Damien the Omen turns up again
Shoulda known sooner or later he'd be back. I bet he scores two 666s on his SATs.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:31 PM
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60. what's he going to do when his 15 minutes are up
it'll be hard on him when he's a has been at 10.

it'll be hard on him when the cameras are no longer on him and he goes through media withdrawal.

someone should ask him if he plans to join the military, since cheney said it's going to be a 20 year war on terror.

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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:32 PM
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61. I think it displays the mental capacity of this administration well.
I might give them the benefit of the doubt and maybe raise it to a 13 year old's.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:36 PM
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63. "And a little child shall lead them!!!" Beautiful story!! Crying here...
:eyes:
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Seeing Red Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:54 PM
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64. the latest casualty in bush's propaganda war...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:01 PM
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65. Well that's it then!
Let's go ahead and add on that 2 trillion $ debt right now. I know I'm ready for bankruptcy. In the meantime, increase feeding the Military Industrial Complex.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:56 PM
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67. I have one more thing to say
if this kid is willing to put himself into the limelight to push Bush's agenda, is he subject to e-mails to him, pointing out his folly?

Do we give him free reign just because he is child or do we treat him the same as we would treat any other?

This is another aspect of this--people will not chanllenge a child of nine years old because, well because we can make up all kinds of excuses for his naivite.

Does he deserve that while his shills for Bush's plan to destroy a social program that has been enormously successful, or should we treat him like any other? Must we protect him because he is a child not knowing any better?

I say no, and I say we communicate to him the folly of his venture into politics and give him some challenges, facts and some resistance.

Let him learn that he is not going to ride the pony for free just because he is a child. That is exactly the meaning of this marketing method--he gets off free. It is quite clever.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:13 PM
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94. You're right about the clever ploy
Anyone who challenges him or contradicts him is a "big meanie" - what kind of grownup picks a fight with a child?

It's their defense against bloggers so we don't armstrong him.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:56 PM
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68. Here's his brother
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:58 PM
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69. At 9, He's The Brainwashed Child Of Abusive Parents.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:12 PM
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70. So we're all supposed to listen to some random
9 year old kid???

What the hell does this spoiled fucking little brat know about gerontology, disability, life threatening illnesses/accidents and Social Security as an insurance plan???

And does the little shit know anything about women's issues?

Maybe someone ought to tell him that many women cannot fully work when they are pregnant because by law pregnancy is considered a disability and if the G.O.P. had it their way there would be no abortions and/or birth control so women would be constantly pregnant and they would be unable save up over the years for some bogus "investment"... DUH!:dunce:


...Oh I see.......He hasn't completed his sex ed classes yet.
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:34 PM
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74. yes it's disgusting, but don't we do it too?
I remember seeing countless kids with kerry t-shirts and buck fush type t-shirts at rallies and protests.

Yes, it is the next step, but not that big of one.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:43 PM
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76. well
im sure people on both sides do this, im glad i can respectfully say that i do not use children in this matter. ick...
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:50 PM
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78. nor do i
i love DU, but sometimes things like that bother me...

Being critical is good, just make sure we are critical of all...
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:56 PM
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79. im feeling you
we need to look at our own opinions and thoughts with as much criticism and scrutiny as we do towards the opposition.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:38 AM
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91. this reminds me....
have any of you seen lil' hercules on the howard stern show? it's awful, this little ten or so year old kid has been put on steroids and has ridiculously outrageous muscles. he does little stunts for the audience...seriously, his parents ARE THE SUCKERS OF SATANS BLACK SLIMY COCK!!!!!!!!!!
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:30 PM
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95. how is that legal?
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 04:18 PM by Damien
edit: 2nd paragraph

I don't watch T.V. much, and haven't seen stern's show in years. Really, how is it legal to put a 10 year old on steroids? is he not american?

By asking if he's not american, I'm wondering if the kid is from some nation that doesn't care about steroid use.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:19 AM
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109. i'm pretty sure he didn't speak english, errrr
*cough, american :), so maybe that decides the legality of it. on the show they definitely didn't make a point of creating a big deal out of the steroid use but it was soooo frightening...seeing a little munchkin with a six-pack, pecks and wearing a g-string...sigh...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:21 AM
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81. My daughter was a proud member of
Kids for Kerry.

But she did not go around stumping for any of Kerry's plans.

And we wouldn't have her used in that way.

But it's not a BAD thing to get kids involved, not at all. I just think this particular case crosses the line, no matter what party it is.
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:31 PM
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96. i agree there is a fine line
some things are o.k., especially when the kid has at least some understanding of the situation, but there is a fine line.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:11 PM
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99. The line isn't at all fine.
There's a HUGE difference between taking a kid to a rally for a couple hours one afternoon... and shipping a kid from place to place, to be trotted out as part of a sales pitch.

:crazy:
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:16 PM
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100. what about
being an activist that travels and bringing your kid with you? At some point the kid is going to start wanting to do what you do, and might even want to start talking.

All I'm saying is that people should be fair in their judgement of others, not immediatly praising dems and comdemning republicans.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:14 PM
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101. What about being an activist...
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 05:35 PM by Zenlitened
Now you're just dragging in another "what-if." The original comparison was between kids at rallies versus kids as stage props.

What about children of activists? I dunno. What about children of military families? Children of diplomats? Children of business executives who relocate every three years?

None of them are turning their kids into presentation material for a sales pitch. That's the issue here.

As for judging republicans... what have the republicans done for me lately? I plan to keep on holding them to the very highest standards, thank you. I will happily condemn them for each and every slip-up.

(edited typo)
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:55 PM
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103. i agree
we need to hold them to the highest standards.

However, during the Clinton administration the republicans said much the same about the president during the whole sex in the oval office thing. Once they pushed it, several of them had to step down or step back because they realized they were guilty of what they were condemning Clinton of.

Yes, we need to point out the atrocious acts of this administration and other republicans. However, we always need to remember that one day (hopefully soon) we will be in the majority again and they will do the same.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:02 PM
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104. Sorry, you're not convincing me.
You've gone from the specific to the wildly general. Of course we should avoid hypocrisy in our own words and deeds. But that hardly seems like a compelling argument to avoid reaming the repubs over this crass use of a child as a promotional tool.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:42 PM
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75. i just exploded inside...
what a little whore. i can't believe the audacity of this, why does a 9 year old kid get to travel around belting out his opinion just because he can spew out facts and owns 3000+ books on presidents? i don't get it. what would I have to do to get the same respect? be a whore, but whores are hard to find, not when it's a little boy however and a years supply of candy is involved... poor poor little boy doesn't understand what he's getting himself into.
JUST DON'T LET THEM PAY YOU IN SUGAR DADDY'S NOAH! (unless that sugar daddy is sean hannity)
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:50 PM
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77. Li'l Nazi
LOL
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bushcrab Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:10 PM
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108. Poor little peerless kid
NINE years old? Shouldn't he be shootin' hoops or playing some catch this time of year??

Let me guess, his bedroom is spotless too?

This kid should sue his parents for exploitation or sumptin.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:04 PM
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80. Well, at least he's one up on Bush...
...and will go on radio programs, answer trivia questions and say a few words about Social Security.

I mean, after all, Bush can go on radio programs and answer trivia questions...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:53 AM
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84. The kid had better worry about Bush screwing up the planet. 2042 may
never get here.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:46 AM
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85. What someone needs to do is ask (in all innocence) what the GOP
is doing to make sure that this child doesn't have to interact with the likes of Jeff Gannon.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:14 AM
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88. The kid says:
"What I want to tell people about Social Security is to not be afraid of the new plan," Noah said. "It may be a change, but it's a good change."

WOW! He sure convinced me! Mind if I ask a follow-up question? :eyes:
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:29 AM
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89. yea, he's kinda on the same line of rhetoric as bush! n/t
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:37 AM
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90. Bush's pet monkey? n/t
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:42 AM
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92. This is a marketing plan
It's a marketing plan. This kid is talking to other kids his age ("the young people" meme). Also, the number of Americans who actually will listen to this nine year old pitch and pontificate about Bush's plan is probably higher than I'd like to think about, given the bovine mentality of Bush's target audience...

We're abandoned...

:-)



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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:07 AM
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93. More proof that libertarianism appeals to the immature
I'm sure the little rascal would LOVE Ayn Rand.

People without real-life experience shouldn't be given such press, and that goes for children of privilege like Junior. Knowledge comes from experience, and if one's never gotten one's ass continually kicked by those in power or experienced privation, one doesn't know dick regardless of intelligence.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:00 PM
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97. If he gets his wish, he'll be on the streets at 69. nt
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:04 PM
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98. we ought to get a disabled kid on Social Security
to show the impact of the bush administration.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:00 PM
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105. Bush needed an intellectual equal on the trip
Maybe they can read My Pet Goat together.
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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:36 PM
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106. At 12, I still think * is a load of shit.
And that is all.
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oppositionmember Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:44 PM
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107. Like anyone should listen to this little shit?
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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 04:09 PM
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110. *clears throat* I'm not defending the kid, but don't base opinions on age.
We young'uns are just as politically aware as you..him at 9, me at 12.
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