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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:33 PM
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White Supremacist Charged With Selling Machine Guns
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBU1JSP85E.html

SEATTLE (AP) - Federal agents arrested three men on gun and explosives charges Tuesday, including a white supremacist who once served time for plotting to kill Martin Luther King Jr.


Keith Gilbert, 65, a former associate of late Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler, was arrested at his Seattle home, FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said.

William D. Heinrich, 50, a former aide to Butler, and John P. Hejna, 44, were also arrested.

A complaint said Gilbert had sold AK-47 assault rifles and other weapons to a confidential informant working with the federal government over the past two years. He was charged with various weapons offenses, including being a felon in possession of a firearm.

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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:48 PM
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1. I wondered what all the FBI people were doing there.
I drove by the house, or one of the houses where the bust was made this morning and there were FBI people everywhere. 6 hours later I was driving past and the place was still swarming with all kinds of cops and FBI people.

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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:54 PM
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2. The seattle area has a history of White Supremecy
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:14 PM
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4. 1924?
The entire country was riled up with the Klan back then. Do a Google on 1924 and klanbake.
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:58 PM
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3. And again we see the type of person that owns guns.
and it ain't pretty!
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:29 PM
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5. that's a bit of a stretch don't you think?
i bet they drive cars too! see what kind of whackos drive cars!@

:eyes:

it's baseless to suggest that the "type" of person who owns a gun is the same "type" of person who would approve of the white power movement.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:02 PM
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7. Yeah, those White Power people are notorious....
for wanting minorities to have easy access to inexpensive but reliable guns...
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:07 AM
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9. The difference cars weren't made to kill!
I don't understand why repukes can't understand that.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 06:35 AM
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12. Guns aren't made to kill either.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile in a certain direction. You can use a gun in the manner for which it was designed all day long by firing it into a hillside (like the range at Craig's Creek just outside of B'burg) and not kill a single human being.

If it makes you feel better, don't think of guns as a killing device, think of it as a device to repeatedly test and demonstrate certain laws of physics. You can use it to demonstrate "for every action there is an equal and opposite reation", and the effects of gravity, and the effects of air resistance and wind on a projectile travelling at a high rate of speed. Or, you could just watch the dirt fly, and the reactive targets get all jiggly while partaking in the odor of cordite burning.

Remember, Americans shoot literally billions of rounds a year, and very few people die from gunshot wounds per round fired. BTW, most of those who DO die of gunshot wounds are deliberate suicides.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:20 AM
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15. That's irrelevant, vpigrad - Car can be used as a weapon
Thousands of people are killed with cars because of aggressive, irresponsible driving every year. People get charged with assault when they use cars as weapons.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:01 PM
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6. shouldn't that be "who illegally owns guns"?
ntxt
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:03 PM
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8. I admit that
I am not at all pretty, but I own a few guns.

What type of people am I?

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:23 AM
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10. A homely gun nut?
Just joking around. :P Take care and see you later.

Don

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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:30 AM
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11. LOL! /nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:01 AM
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13. Here we see the bigoted attitude so common in knee-jerk gun controllers
It ain't pretty neither.
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:22 PM
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19. Yes, I'm a Mexican-American and a white supremecist....
:eyes:
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:26 PM
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20. See!!!
That's what I'm talking about, you puppy kicking meany gun owner!! ;)
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:14 AM
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14. What is the FBI's problem. don't they see how gun ownership has made Iraq
THE SAFEST PLACE ON EARTH. IRAQ IS A NRA DREAM COUNTRY. :wow:
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:14 AM
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16. Welcome to DU Jeff.
and away from the dark side of the farce.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:52 AM
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17. Actually it proves the NRA's point perfectly
The NRA has always maintained that the 2nd Amendment was written by the Founding Fathers to, among other things, allow the people to maintain firearms as a last-ditch effort to prevent a foreign power from overtaking our nation. The Iraqi resistance, with no navy, air force, artillery, or armored vehicles, has effectively bogged down the most powerful military force on this planet with relatively simple personal weapons and improvised explosives. The right to bear arms has worked wonderfully from an Iraqi resistance fighter standpoint.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:09 PM
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18. Keith Gilbert?!?
Oh, man - this guy's a real nut job. You must read his "Adolph Hitler Was Elijah" rant as reprinted in the Extremism in America compilation (check Amazon).
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