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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:46 PM
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Canada shocked Bush on invasion: diplomat

Canada shocked Bush on invasion: diplomat

http://www.dawn.com/2005/02/11/int6.htm

OTTAWA, Feb 10: The Bush administration had expressed "anger and Irritation" when Ottawa refused to join the allied forces that invaded Baghdad, according to Michael Kergin, Canada's outgoing ambassador to Washington.

In a detailed interview with The Toronto Star, the 62-year-old career diplomat revealed for the first time the shock and disbelief in the Bush administration when Prime Minister Jean Chritien decided to keep Canadian troops out of Iraq.

He said that administration insiders had all but ignored the diplomatic signals from Ottawa in the runup to the invasion. Despite all the signs and statements from Ottawa about the need for United Nations backing, the decision somehow still caught official Washington off guard, he said.

"It's like you can't quite believe it when you're told it and you really believe in the end it would happen. And in this case, it didn't."


Of course Canada didn't join the invasion, it was totally illegal. Aggressive war, plain and simple.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:50 PM
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1. Bush, like many RW ignorant Americans, consider Canada a 51st state.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:51 PM
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2. Atleast we have a deceit nation as a neighbor, wish it was us
:kick:
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:52 PM
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3. Too bad Chritien didnt roll over and beg for scraps
just like Blair, huh, Georgie?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:09 PM
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4. They didn't hear any objection from Prime Minister Poutine
so they figured all was cool... until this Chretien character came out of left field.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:53 PM
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29. Too funny
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 11:54 PM by Art_from_Ark
I can just imagine the Chimp, scratching his little chimp head and wondering-- "Who is this Crechin fella and what's he got ta do with Canada?"
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:29 PM
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5. So I guess the new tactic is for newspapers to make their
headlines so incoherent you have to read the story to figure out wtf they are talking about.

I couldn't figure out if Bush invaded Canada or if Canada invaded Bush. :shrug:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:46 AM
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13. Obfuscation. Not a new tactic, however. Folks are just more aware. (nt)
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:35 AM
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22. If you were in Canada the headline would be clear as day.
The PM was no fan of GWB and he in no way bought into the delusion that the invasion would be a cake walk. Any shock Americans had is evidence that everyone in the US Adminstration is a lackey and therefore can't comprehend someone not drinking the koolaid.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:42 PM
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6. Typical sociopathic dunderhead...
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 11:44 PM by TwoSparkles
...to believe that the world will just fall in line--behind your stupid, ill-planned, rash war-mongering adventure.

Did you hear that everyone.... * was "angered and irritated."

Maybe * should be a bit more "humbled and introspective". Maybe then he'd discover that he's an out-of-control Hitlereque rat who is not entitled to the respect and support of other nations--just because he says, "Come on man. We're doin some invadin tonight!"

So typical of that pea-brained little gnat. He gets "irritated" when someone won't go along with his murdering, discombobulated rampage.

What a f*cking fool we have sitting in the Oval Office. The most pathetic aspect of all of this--is that the fool is oblivious because he spends most of his time being "irritated and angry"--like a petulant child who can't convince the other kids to blow up frogs with firecrackers.

Clown.


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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:51 PM
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7. Hear only what you want to hear:
...administration insiders had all but ignored the diplomatic signals...
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HCeline69 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:29 AM
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8. Kind of like my shock
when Kerry lost.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:29 AM
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9. The "spook" elders said the intelligence on Iraq formed no
The Canadian "spook" elders said the intelligence on Iraq (Canada received from the USA on WMD) follow no previously known pattern of what intelligence is supposed to look like. So they passed.


Good call from the Canadian Prime Minister.
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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:14 AM
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10. I guess you're susceptible to "surprises" like that when
when you have your buddies remove dissenters from your sight and drop petals in frony of your feet.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:24 AM
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11. Good for Chretien
Mulroney would have been in Iraq like a dirty shirt, same for Harper and Doris Day.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:14 AM
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21. teehee, that's so funny and true. n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:28 AM
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12. Wow Canada did what they told Bush No UN No go to war
Bush doesn't get it!!! He doesn't rule the world after all!!!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:12 AM
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14. it's not all that bad
Poland joined up -- so don't forget Poland
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:33 AM
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15. Probably applies to more than Canada.
The chauvinists currently mismanaging the U.S. gubmet assume the whole (free) world will eventually fall in line with whatever they decide. "Give 'em time, they'll come around." Dictatorial entities generally don't value the freedom or independence of others.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:11 AM
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16. At least * finally realized Canada was a no show.
Coulter insists they joined us in Indo-China. :eyes:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:58 AM
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17. Coulter is a Skank.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:28 AM
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18. I believe the term is "Skank Ho."
:evilgrin:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:13 AM
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24. You are correct
I date myself in leaving off the "Ho" part.

LOL
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:10 AM
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19. Bush thought...
"eh...ignore them...the Canadians are just being pussies for their leftwing constituents...they know who is sugar daddy...they'll come around"...and THEN....

"WHAT! Why you Celine-Dion listening bastards! I'll show you...."

Good for Canada.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:12 AM
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20. One of our proudest moments
And just about the only thing Jean Chrétien did right.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:59 AM
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23. Canada obeyed international law??? How dare they???? n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:49 AM
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25. Good for Canada and Chretien
The U.S. has turned into a stupid paranoid monster run by organized crime and religion.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:13 AM
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26. Shocked, I tell you...
Shocked! The Canadians wouldn't invade a country that hadn't done a damn thing to them, just because we wanted them to!

The NERVE of those people!

Redstone
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:27 AM
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27. A totally illegal aggressive war, plain and simple. My, my, but never
mind: the American people, if not most of the world, have ratified this war.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:18 PM
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28. "all but ignored the diplomatic signals" What a surprise
just like they "all but ignore" everything they don't want to hear. And "all but ignore" rational ideas. Sorry, shrubby, Canada is sane I guess.
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