Rice to Iran: Take EU3 Deal or Face U.N. Council

[leftchick]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20050209/ts_nm/iran_usa_rice_dc

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said on Wednesday that Iran should be warned it faces referral to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions unless it accepts a European deal on its nuclear program.



"(The) Iranians need to hear that if they are unwilling to take the deal, really, that the Europeans are giving ... then the Security Council looms," Rice told Fox News.


"I don't know that anyone has said that as clearly as they should to the Iranians," she said in a comment aimed not only at pressuring Tehran but also at spurring the big three European powers negotiating with Iran to get tougher with the Islamic Republic.


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"They (Iran) need to hear that the discussions they are in with the Europeans are not going to be a kind of way-station, where they are allowed to continue their activities, that there's going to be an end to this and that they are going to end up in the Security Council," Rice said.

[Bozvotros]

1. If ever a country needed addressed by the Security Council...

It would be us. These people are absolutely insane with power. Is it just me or do these folks sound more and more like Klingons?

[applegrove]

2. I was under the impression that the UN was a weak pile of shit!

I was under the impression that the UN was a weak pile of shit!

Okay - now the UN is a bad-ass. That UN - it is a tough guy - boy you don't want to get on the bad side the UN!!!

Watch out Iran - if you don't do as "Old Europe" says we will send the UN out to hunt you down... and get you!!

[leesa]

9. No. They are just spinning it like they did Iraq. They will scream "They

are not in UN compliance" and begin the bombing. It's all a set-up and the UN is their tool.

[Redstone]

3. Take the deal, or...

it's sunrise over Tehran:



Redstone

[neweurope]

5. Great picture, Redstone :)

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[0007]

37. Condi at the Riverera

[neweurope]

4. A negotiation usually is something where both sides win a little and

loose a little. Negotiations are supposed to reach a compromise or it's unneccessary to have them. Go, US, go! and start WW III.

I know that hate is bad for me but I cannot stop hating them. And this Rice-woman I hate more and more each day.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[The Zanti Regent]

6. How many more lies will you utter, Rice a Phony?

You killed my only child in Iraq. Show me how you and your Likudnik pals are gonna do anything to Iran

Iran should tell you to fuck off!

[Earth_First]

7. The White House recycling program is doing great!

Recycle the headlines, and change Afghanistan to Iraq. Iraq to Iran.
Same headline, different day.

Must make for an easy job for the editor.

[leesa]

8. Oh she's a swell diplomat. How many people has she threatened in

the last wto weeks?? Real bright, that one.

[rodeodance]

10. the WH only USES the Sec Coucil when we NEED them--as backup

[maddezmom]

11. and the US still working behind the scenes to rid the UN of ElBaradei

AP: U.S. Aims to Oust U.N. Nuke Official

14 minutes ago Middle East - AP


By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer

VIENNA, Austria - The United States is seeking backing from allies in a possible bid to oust the head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency at a meeting later this month, diplomats and Western government officials said Wednesday.


During the same Feb. 28 meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Washington also will increase the pressure on Iran for allegedly trying to make nuclear weapons, the officials told The Associated Press.


Washington considers IAEA head Mohammed ElBaradei too soft on Iran and its alleged plans to make nuclear arms and the international community ineffective in dealing with the same perceived threat.


No U.S. comment was available for Washington's strategies for the upcoming IAEA board of governors meeting.


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more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20050209/ap_on_re_mi_ea/nuclear_agency_iran

[teacher2560]

12. This is all connected...I hope I'm wrong

I need the DU family to comment on my theory. The Palestinians are going to get 45 million from U.S. aid to enter into the peace talks. What is Israel going to get?? We are going to strike Iran for them in time. Bush needs a peace treaty before he can strike another country. Am I right?

[newyawker99]

13. Hi teacher2560!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[sabra]

14. Rice warns Iran: U.N. action looms

Here we go again...

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/09/rice.iran.ap/index.html

Rice warns Iran: U.N. action looms

Wednesday, February 9, 2005 Posted: 5:59 AM EST (1059 GMT)

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice prepares to give a major policy address Tuesday in Paris.


BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice put Iran on notice Wednesday that it cannot use a European diplomatic initiative to delay indefinitely accountability for a suspected nuclear weapons program.

"The Iranians need to hear that if they are unwilling to take the deal, really, that the Europeans are giving ... then the Security Council referral looms," she said in an interview with Fox News.

"I don't know that anyone has said that as clearly as they should to the Iranians," she said in a strong reiteration U.S. policy that the issue of Iran's nuclear program should be taken before the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions.

"We have believed all along that Iran ought to be referred to the Security Council and then a variety of steps are available to the international community," she said in the interview taped in Paris and released after her arrival in Brussels early Wednesday.

"They need to hear that the discussions that they are in with the Europeans are not going to be a kind of waystation where they are allowed to continue their activities; that there's going to be an end to this and that they are going to end up in the Security Council."

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[cthrumatrix]

15. sanctions = violations..... Violations = War ...... that's the plan

[Occulus]

23. Hersh said exactly this on TDS

Looks like he was spot-on....

[Mr_Spock]

28. Hersh was right on - and this lying troll will be the death of our country

Stupid satanic looking witch - I bet the Europeans are drawing her with Devil horns on her head(s) :D. If anyone thinks that messing with Iran with our forces already stretched thin would do anything other than lead to our downfall in the world, I've got a bridge to sell you...

[htuttle]

16. UN Action? Does she believe this? Is she that incompetent?

Did she forget that Russia and China have vetoes? She was supposed to be a Sovietologist.

[texastoast]

17. Exactly why are we bothering with the U.N.?

Based on past actions, I thought the cowboy didn't think it necessary? I must be confused.

[KittyWampus]

18. Windowdressing. Although Figleaf Might Be More Accurate.

[meganmonkey]

20. She's just pretending, like last time

We cut off the UN inspectors in Iraq just before they finished inspections (finding nothing, of course) and the administration is playing the same game here. So in a year or two, when the war with Iran is in full swing, they can say they followed proper protocol and gave the UN a chance to find a diplomatic solution...

Too bad the Americna public doesn't seem to heed the profound words of our fair leader when he said "fool me once, er...um...can't get fooled again"


:puke:

[Magleetis]

19. Time for the US

to manipulate the UN again. Funny how the US only goes to the UN when it wants something.

[sniffa]

21. Ctrl + H

Find what:
Q
Replace with:
N

easy as pie.... aLthough i don't know what they'LL do for syria.

[0007]

22. 0h goody goody, here we go again!

I definitely think Colin Powell is the better distorter and perhaps more believable to some.

[RuleofLaw]

24. I just have one question:

Under what circumstances would any UN sanction be legal? Has Iran signed any treaty or international obligations, that says it will refrain from obtaining nuclear weapon?

I am just curious, because I don't think so. And I don't believe that the UN can start any sanctions without a violation of international law.

[RuleofLaw]

25. To answer my own question:

Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Key Provisions of the NPT

Under Article I, the nuclear weapon states undertake not to transfer to any recipient whatsoever nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices, and not to assist encourage or induce any non-nuclear-weapon state to manufacture or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.

Under Article II, each non-nuclear-weapon state pledges not to receive, manufacture, or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices; and not to seek or receive assistance in their manufacture.

Article III obliges each non-nuclear-weapon state to accept comprehensive international safeguards through agreements negotiated with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The intent of these safeguards is to deter and detect the diversion of nuclear material for nuclear explosive purposes.

Under Article IV, parties may engage in peaceful nuclear programs in a manner consistent with Articles I and II and are expected to assist the nuclear programs of other parties, with special attention to the needs of developing countries.

Article VI obligates all parties to pursue good-faith negotiations on effective measures relating to ending the nuclear arms race at an early date, to nuclear disarmament, and to achieving a treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.

Article VII recognizes the right of any group of states to conclude regional treaties ensuring the total absence of nuclear weapons in their respective territories.


The interesting thing is that that the US it self is violating the Treaty by pursuing bunker buster nuclear weapons. And to my knowledge, the US had never allowed any UN inspectors to verify that the US is in compliance with the treaty.

[lovuian]

26. Hmmm its kinda hard for Germany to sanction its best customer

Iran and Germany export and Import alot to each other!!!

[bemildred]

27. Rice Gives Europe Stylish Image of U.S.

We seem to have a major bullshit offensive in progress.

PARIS Feb 9, 2005 — It will take some doing to dispel the current European caricature of Americans and their president as being reckless and out of touch, but it doesn't hurt to speak French and wear a superbly cut suit while trying.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is the new face of U.S. foreign policy in more ways than one. On her first foreign trip as President Bush's chief diplomat, Rice is displaying a sophisticated style right at home on the streets and in the salons of taste-making capitals such as Rome and Paris.

Her custom-made suits have included a black boucle number with gold brocade that probably cost more than your first car. She favors chic Italian heels, nipped waists and understated jewelry.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=483654

[David__77]

29. They can "refer" all they want.

The UN will not endorse more criminal US aggression. It will not make the mistake of even appearing to provide political cover for the crimes of invasion and bombardment.

[annabanana]

30. Rice urges tough stance on Iran

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6911810/

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“I’m quite clear and I believe everybody is telling the Iranians that they are going to have to live up to their international obligations,” she said. “It is obvious that if Iran cannot be brought to live up to its international obligations, in fact, the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) statute would indicate that Iran would have to be referred to the U.N. Security Council” for possible sanctions.

“I think the message is there,” Rice said. “The Iranians need to get that message,” she said, adding that Tehran should know that “there are other steps” the international community can take.

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“They need to hear that the discussions that they are in with the Europeans are not going to be a kind of waystation where they are allowed to continue their activities; that there’s going to be an end to this and that they are going to end up in the Security Council,” she said.

Is this, or is this not EXACTLY what was said in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq? Are the American people THAT numb? Is the ENTIRE press THAT irresponsible to comply? Is this America?

[wtmusic]

31. "Refer them to the UN Security Council"?

Are we buddies with the UN again? Wha hoppened?

[Avalux]

32. Yes it is -

and yes, the American people are that numb and the press is that irresponsible. A plan is in motion; one we are powerless to stop. There will be a war with Iran, it's inevitable.

This is not America. At least not the one I love.

[displacedtexan]

33. Wow! The Iraq speed was 33 & 1/3, but Iran is playing out at 78!

Jeeeeeezzzzzz!

I'm afraid this is moving too fast for us to stop!

[aden_nak]

34. The media will only have to change one letter on their graphics intros!

What a convenient war.

[robbedvoter]

35. "The time for diplomacy is now!" Oops! I blinked & missed it.

Are the drums of war being beaten? Will W blame the media for the collapse of the economy because of it? How many sequels to this horror flick?

[MGKrebs]

36. What is she telling the "Europeans"?

Don't bother trying diplomacy? That's what it sounds like.

[flobee1kenobi]

39. From what I've been seeing

over the past few weeks, the EU is taking care of this, and all we are doing is pissing off Iran with tough talk. Rice is making the EU/Iran talks harder than they should be by making veiled threats.

[denverbill]

38. Wait. I thought the UN was an ineffective debating society.

That's what I keep hearing from conservatives anyway.

So why the hell would Iran give a damn about some debating society?

[neuvocat]

44. Because she's stupid as hell!

She didn't waste any time telling people what to do and how to do it, as if she were some sort of boss. The UN stopped listening to Bush when he started the same nonsense over Iraq. Now they're trying to do the same thing with the European Union (which is gaining power along with China and may surpass the U.S. too). Without the EU then the UN is shiftless.

She's setting back the progress of her own race and gender in a hurry with her stupidity.

[Massachusetts]

40. You Go Girl!

TexASS tuff!

[Rainscents]

41. I thought there were over 200 inspectors in Iran and inspecting...

And so far, Iran is getting clean bill.

[nickinSTL]

42. And on CNN...

"U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said today that Iran must live up to its international obligations to halt its nuclear program or the next steps are in the offing. "And I think everybody understands what the 'next steps' mean," Rice told reporters after a meeting with NATO foreign ministers and European Union officials."
http://www.cnn.com

[cthrumatrix]

43. Rice doesn't say that Iran is opening an Oil Trading Exchange in march

which is traded in Euro's .... co-inky deal.