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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:52 PM
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Rice slams Iran human rights record

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stepped up Washington's verbal assault on Iran today, saying the hardline Islamic regime's treatment of its people was "something to be loathed".

"I don't think anybody thinks that the unelected mullahs who run that regime are a good thing for either the Iranian people or for the region," Ms Rice told reporters accompanying her to Europe and the Middle East.

"I think our European allies agree that the Iranian regime's human rights behaviour and its behaviour towards its own population is something to be loathed," she said.

Ms Rice arrived in London this evening to start a week-long tour of Europe and the Middle East, her first trip abroad since replacing Colin Powell last week.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12145329%255E1702,00.html
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:53 PM
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1. Wow, she knows a lot about hardlines
She's part of one those...called goons
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:54 PM
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2. "Slams", OOOOOOOOOH
whatever.
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flobee1kenobi Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:01 PM
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13. I think the same could be said about bush
"I don't think anybody thinks that the unelected mullahs who run that regime are a good thing for either the Iranian people or for the region"

Heres a newsflash for ya Condi-The EU doesnt care what America thinks anymore
The rest of the world has left us behind
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:57 PM
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3. Do you hear the war drums
beating louder again? It's following the EXACT same pattern as Iraq.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:01 PM
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12. The exact same
I don't suppose it would do any good to point out that many of our allies treat their people poorly. It didn't last time.
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Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:11 PM
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19. it really seems so
I've absolutely convinced now that we're going after them. We may not be able to attempt a land invasion but the level of constant rhetoric from Condi is disturbing.

She's gone from drinking the kool-aid to injecting it full-on.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:51 PM
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32. This gang of thugs is NOT creative
One would think that -- fooled once -- cannot be fooled again.

However apparently if the MF-SOBs pull of another attack/invasion or nuking of another country -- and the Congress and public falls for the propaganda -- THEN the third time the bush gang of thugs starts to beat the invasion drums -- perhaps the Public might wake up??

Oh but what the hell -- it's only the kids and grandkids and great-grand kids future that's being mortgaged.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:58 PM
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38. Hey, it worked the first time
Sequels are all the rage. Do you think the public will be a little wiser this time around?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:57 PM
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4. Uh-oh. They're a "regime."
And we all know what we do with regimes, don't we, boys and girls?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:58 PM
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5. Do They Have a Memo Justifying Torture?????
I doubt it.....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:58 PM
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6. Mmmphf....Torturita ought to know..............n/t
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:58 PM
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7. Pot, meet kettle. n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:59 PM
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8. Two points
1. Iran indeed has a human rights records worth slamming.

2. So does the Bush administration.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 06:59 PM
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9. its funny watching Rice act like she still has a shred of credibility
or moral high ground. Human rights, from Condi. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. Oh jesus christ. One wonders if she is stupid enough to think the world community frankly gives a shit about how she perceives human rights.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:00 PM
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10. People in glass houses...
shouldn't throw bullshit!!!

:spank:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:00 PM
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11. Well Condi, we sort of overthrew their last elected government
Which is pretty much the single cause of all our problems with Iran.
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:37 PM
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25. iran has had 7 elections since the 1979 revolution
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:56 PM
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41. last true election was Mosadek in the 50's
(sorry if I got the spelling of his name wrong)
since then they have had the CIA-installed Shah and his goons, followed by the Mullahs and their goons...so BushCo are complaining about a mess that the US govt. created in the long run!
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:01 PM
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14. meanwhile, in America, government sanctioned terrorist corporations
run rampant, polluting the citizenry, plundering the resources, the peoples wages, the world, and whenever possible propping up corrupt dictatorial regimes and oppressing virtually enslaved employees that are paid pennies.

also, we have unelected preachers running things here, and a corporately/partisan aligned media that in the ever solidifying fascism of the nation refuses to inform the people of pertinent issues and instead consistantly misleads and decieves the people.

oh, and we have lots more nukes than Iran. and we've used them, and we're making more.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:03 PM
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15. Rice "I think our European allies agree..." So get with it, Tony!
Condi just cracked the whip and it's time for you to jump through another hoop. Although a poodle jumping docilely through the flames just doesn't have quite the same ooomph as a tiger. :shrug:
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:07 PM
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16. Listen to the beat of those drums ....
I ... R... A... N, I ... R... A... N, I ... R... A... N, I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,
I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,I ... R... A... N,

GOES

BOOM!!!!


Will we shock and awe the Iranians too??

What a country we live in -- just when the people have lost interest in the last conflict, they get the juices flowing again with a new and lively war! Wouldn't want anyone to actually think about the conditions of their own miserable lives now, would we?

Which is it this time -- Oceania or Eurasia?? I get confused.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:07 PM
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17. Fool us twice, shame on us
You're not going to fool us again, Condi.

:headbang:
rocknation
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:11 PM
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18. Ratcheting up the rhetoric...We've heard this before...it's just that
there's a one-letter difference in the country's name.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:12 PM
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20. And so it starts...
Will they really use "human rights" as their reason to bomb Iran and kill more people? They are so twisted.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:15 PM
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21. Just like Iraq
same ole, same ole

next Laura will be coming out to say that the women of Iran need to be liberated and that fighting terrorists in Iran is a good thing that need doing to spread "democracy" and freedom and liberty.

Coulter will come out and say that we need to kill their leaders and convert the country to Christianity and so on down the talking heads and the corrupt journalists line ad nauseum.

The depressing thought is that it will all be accepted by our congress if past events are of any value.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:04 PM
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39. The main thrust of their excuses will be that Iran threatens
Iraqi sovereignty and we must now remove those darn unelected mullahs who are interfering with Iraq's newfound democracy. After all we've done to- I mean FOR- the Iraqis we have to stay the course and protect their fragile fledgling democracy from those darned extremist muslim influences.

Meanwhile, who will protect us from extremist Christian influences?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:26 PM
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22. Rice is a lightweight and the world knows it
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:57 PM
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28. Exactly
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:29 PM
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23. The hypocrite has her nerve.
Before Bush, the U.S had some scope (imperfect as it was) to lecture other countries on human rights. Now, it is do as I say, not as I do.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:31 PM
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24. SLAM duuh duuh duuh. let the boys be boys!
:P
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:41 PM
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26. The awesome magnitude of hyprocrisy boggles.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 07:48 PM by Nothing Without Hope
"I don't think anybody thinks that the unelected mullahs who run that regime are a good thing for either the Iranian people or for the region," Ms Rice told reporters accompanying her to Europe and the Middle East.

It really is too bad she has no discernible sense of humor, let alone irony. At least ONE person could then get a laugh out of this travesty.

Who outside of blivet** Kool-Aid drinkers believes that she ever tells the truth except by accident, or that her level of competence ever rises above abysmal?

She is, though, perfect for the office of SOS - "Stepfordwife of State."
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:44 PM
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27. Intended for domestic consumption...
...of course kindasleezy has no credibility in the rest of the planet. The rest of the world would probably be laughing at her hypocrisy, except for the sad fact that her remarks confirm that the warmongering and illegal invasions will continue.

However, no doubt her comments will be taken seriously and promulgated by the conservative echo machine in this country and convince the morans that attacking Iran puts the US on the moral high ground. :eyes: :puke: :mad:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:35 PM
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29. But the unelected Saudis are just fine?
"I don't think anybody thinks that the unelected mullahs who run that regime are a good thing for either the Iranian people or for the region,"
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:35 PM
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30. Shake it - shake it, oh Condi Condi
Shake rattle and roll that big, badass US Sabre.

Watch her shake that thing.

Tremble in Tribulation before the Rattling Sabre of Righteousness which She Feel She Weild


(Has anyone heard the new pop tune Condi, Condi? I think it's a Steve Earle recording. Caught it on the radio the other day. Great tune, great timing !)
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:46 PM
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31. What about our coalition.... it's only a problem when it is convenient for
us or WTF??

Here is the dirt on one of our members of the coalition of the coerced.

http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/europe/uzbekistan.html
The government branded those with dissenting views "enemies of the state" and added hundreds of Muslims to the thousands already imprisoned for their religious beliefs. Members of the Islamic organization Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of Liberation) were arrested for unregistered religious activity, a crime in Uzbekistan, and possession or distribution of literature not approved by the state. The government expanded its fierce campaign against independent Muslims in 2000 by detaining, arresting, and torturing relatives of pious Muslims. Police regularly harassed and threatened relatives of men convicted of religious offenses, while arresting the relatives of men being sought, and threatening to hold them until the suspects turned themselves in or were captured.

Police arrested twenty-three-year-old Nilufar Hokimova and twenty-one-year-old Nafisa Aboskhodjaeva, who were sentenced to six years in prison for "Wahabism" and alleged anti-state activity when they attempted to leave the country following the arrest, torture, and conviction of their husbands. Authorities compelled female relatives to sign documents attesting that they did not attend any illegal gatherings and placed many under a form of house arrest during holidays and elections. Police and local authorities also organized "hate rallies" reminiscent of the Stalin era, in which hundreds of neighbors and officials gathered to denounce publicly relatives of pious Muslims as traitors and "enemies of the state" and to demand a vow of contrition. Among those subjected to this treatment were relatives of the well-known independent Imam Obidhon Qori Nazarov, who was believed to have gone into hiding in March 1998.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:52 PM
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33. Take a look at America's HR record lately, Rice??? At your own AG?
And how about one of the worst offenders, Saudi Arabia.


America is no longer in a position to point fingers at ANYONE.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:53 PM
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34. THE HAMMER
She does her job well.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:36 PM
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35. Will they be able to fly kites after we nuke them?
:nuke:


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jjtss Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:55 PM
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36. I'll bet that
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 10:56 PM by jjtss
the Ayatollah and all other Iranians are ROFLTAO. Pot is definitely calling the kettle BLACK}(
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:57 PM
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37. Bush's bitch...need I say more?
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:45 PM
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40. booooy, they are sure going after Iran now. must. have. more. oil.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:58 PM
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42. can't seem to get it in Iraq
because BushCo can't keep the pipelines secure
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:01 AM
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43. Oh, the lying wonk has opinions too - who cares - I got no respect
for Condi the compulsive liar.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:04 AM
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44. How about the Bush* human rights record:
1. Guantanamo
2. Secret Prisons/Torture
3. Free Speech Zones
4. No admit lists for his public policy speeches
5. Loyalty oaths
6. Patriot Act


don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
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