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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:04 AM
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Midterm elections have RNC anxious
... To successfully nationalize the 2006 midterms, Mr. Bush may have to bring the public along on a number of issues.
State Republican Party chairmen and other RNC members meeting here generally agree that federal spending, the budget deficit, Iraq — and, in some key states, immigration — will be important.

Some officials who insist the war will not be a problem for their party in the midterm elections blame the press' concern with civilian casualities for what they see as negative reporting on the war in Iraq.
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But his approval-disapproval ratios on some other issues could spell trouble if they rise in importance next year: 32 percent to 63 percent on the budget deficit, 42 percent to 56 percent on Iraq, 41 percent to 52 percent on Social Security.

"People are focusing more on immigration than they ever have, because of so much fraudulent voting in the elections last year," said RNC member Mary Buestrin, co-chairman of the 2004 Bush campaign grass-roots operation in Wisconsin. "We saw a lot of that in my state."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050117-120033-9561r.htm
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:09 AM
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1. Because if it wasn't reported, they wouldn't be dead.
...Some officials who insist the war will not be a problem for their party in the midterm elections blame the press' concern with civilian casualities for what they see as negative reporting on the war in Iraq...

No concern for the actual dead, just concern that the deaths are reported. Form over substance. Image over reality. The Republican way.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:10 AM
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2. Isn't that just sick?
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:17 AM
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3. like the pictures of the torture are the problem and not the torture
it is image over fact - illusions and the rw cult is willing to believe this is a religious man with moral values HHHHmmmmmm GGGrrrrrr
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:18 AM
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4. Yes, Rumsfeld made that very clear when he testified.
It was sickening to hear.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:19 PM
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27. Yeah - outlaw the cameras, but not the CRIMES.
Evil. Just evil.

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:26 PM
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29. They have to protect those beautiful minds, don't you know?
"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" - Barbara Bush, ABC's "Good Morning America", March 18, 2003.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:45 PM
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31. WTF?
Did she really say that? Why doesn't someone comile all of the wretched things they say into audio and video links or a psa?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 07:16 PM
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33. Of Course...
She was (chicken)hawking her crappy book on TV right around the same time the pirated photos of the coffins from Dover AFB appeared in the liberal media. And if you can believe it, she was more concerned about her shitty son's reputation than the cold cruel reality that people are dying because of him. PSA? Collect audio and video? WHY? It would only fall on deaf ears of the Bush*bots. They can 'splain it away and blame it on the Liberal media, don't you know?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:04 PM
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34. I can't believe she said that.
I didn't hear it with my own ears (thank heavens), but people have repeated it so often that I know it is true.

That is the most amazingly selfish, uncaring thing she could say &/or think, and it is hard to believe she had the audacity to say it. Deaths are not relevant, and why should she waste her beautiful mind on the people who are dead because her son sent them to die.

That alone should have kept people from voting for Bush, that he has such a despicable inhuman, inhumane mother.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:32 PM
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36. I can believe she said it....
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 11:33 PM by BrotherBuzz
Just not in public. One could only suspect she imbibed some "Green Room" alcohol prior to the broadcast and it loosened her tongue, that, or some mystery psychotrophic drug she takes kicked in. Do you think she would have the courage to say the those same words to a grieving parent sober?

Your assessment of Barbara is correct...in spades.....
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:25 AM
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37. She effectively said it to grieving parents.
Good point that she may have been drinking before she said it. Was it a live program?

Even without alcohol, she may have been arrogant enough to think that she could say it and get away with it. And, she DID get away with it. She wasn't raked over the coals for that. She should have been. And Bush should have been questioned about it during his campaign. Why did his mother say such a thing. Of course, as usual, they get away with everything. That's what happens when you own the press.

Still, I guess your alcohol explanation is the only thing that can in anyway make me believe that someone could be so openly heartless.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:18 AM
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5. Wisconsin...We saw a lot of that in my state
What is this dude talking about. Wisconsin Republicans, especially in Milwaukee, push stories of cigarettes handed to homeless people as a major voting scam. These stories are never substantiated. The tire slashing threats to Rs appear isolated and incidental rather than directed at them. Wisconsin is very clean unless you consider the millions spent by the Bradley Foundation and all the winger talk show hosts ranting to sway the sheep.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:31 AM
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6. I hope they are worried
but they really don't act like it, do they? They've got diebold on their side.

"concern for civilian casualities" is a bad thing?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:42 AM
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9. Exactly...
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

--Josef Stalin

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:32 AM
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7. They were anxious before election 2004. They'll find a way to win.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:41 AM
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8. Oh, they'll just trot out gay marriage one more time . . .
And they'll throw in something about flag-burning and dangle the tax-cut bone in front of their voters, and all the Huckleberry Hounds of the GOP electorate will salivate and vote "correctly" and roll back over and go back to sleep.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:44 AM
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10. It's up to us to wake them up n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:55 PM
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32. yep
and more hate crimes will happen only they won't be called "hate crimes" because of who is in charge.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:27 AM
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11. Why shouldn't they be, the Democrats aren't going to fight back
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 11:30 AM by sasquatch
We have the pink tutu's like Kerry, Edwards, Biden, Hillary and Liebierman who're knocking each other out on the hopes of being the first one to be able slip GWB's diseased cock down their throats.
:grr:
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:30 PM
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21. You're right
I'm tired of Me-too Democrats who vote for Bush's policies with "a heavy heart".

If the Democrats think that they are going to win by acting like Republicans, they are sadly mistaken. Don't take my word for it, look at the elections since 2000.

The only Democrats will win a majority is by standing up to the Bush. Now, let's see, how many Democrats in Congress have done that. Well, there's Barbara Boxer and then there's..............Barbara Boxer.

The sad thing is that the Democrats in Congress will vote to give Bush a authorization to go to war in Iran. Then the Democrats will with vote with Bush to reinstate the draft. All with a "heavy heart". Then the same Democrats will be dumbfounded when they lose elections and the Republicans will just laugh at their them.

Won't they ever learn.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:25 PM
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12. Oh, yeah, the RNC is really concerned. As if they didn't
already have the 2006 election fixed and in the bag. A few adjustments here, a few there, and it's a done deal.

The ballot box is no longer an engine for change in BushAmerica.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:12 PM
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25. EXACTLY!!! i'm just wondering why all the propaganda to get
people in a tiff on the next election....
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:28 PM
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13. 41% of us approve of his Social Sec. plan??? n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:32 PM
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22. 41% is enough to get crushed.
Bush will have a hard time winning this fight.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:14 PM
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26. I just can't believe that 41% of our citizens would approve of...
his plan. Truly I can't believe it's that many. Do most people just not understand what it entails?

-wildflower
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:50 PM
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14. Mike Malloy said the Nazis would rig 2006 to get 60 Senators.
And he's right.

In 2006, we're mandated to use Diebold machines, which WILL be manipulated by the Nazi Party so they can get to 60 in the upper chamber of the Reichstag.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:56 PM
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15. Just more bullshit, trying to create the illusion of Free Elections
We know better.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:10 PM
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16. Look for them to link any election law to immigration
It's nutty, but this gives a heads up to their strategy.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 03:51 PM
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19. What "election law", Rose?
We have no Free Press, and the voting systems are secret and uninspectable.

I see no strategy for them except to keep their Propaganda Machine churning out ear-splitting cacophony and Orwellian Lies in conjuctionion with nazi-style (except for the racism) demonization language.

This will keep the "elections" close enough to easily manipulate and steal.

Hell, as with Nazi Germany, eventually (and we may have already reasched this point, it is impossible to tell) Der Fuhrer may get an ACTUAL MAJORITY one day.

But either way, you can only have "election strategy" in a Free Nation with Trustworthy and Verifiable Voting Systems.

Anbd Imperial Amerika has/is neither.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:49 PM
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17. Why are teh worried and this is from the moonie times
folks they are starting the GOTV now, and... there is more....

who cares about their worries, they own the machines, it does not matter who we vote for, but how they count the votes and what they throw out.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:56 PM
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18. they're blaming election fraud on immigrants?
since when were election machines and/or there availability controlled by immigrants? In which state was this an overwhelming problem. And here I've been think it was fraudulent rethuglicans causing the voting problems.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:42 PM
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20. Fraudulent Voting? Say it isn't so. nt
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dannynyc Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:47 PM
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23. I'm glad they're ignoring the war . . .
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 05:48 PM by dannynyc
Historically, as casualties grow, the population gets more concerned. With every indication that Iraq is getting worse by the day, casualties are bound to go up.

Someone proposed an interesting theory to me recently. In the US, 30,000 people die of car accidents every year. Somehow, that 30,000 is a magic number. War casualties don't affect people's consciousness until the number gets close to 30,000.

If the Administration gets away with invading Iran, also (seperate news item), I can see the 30,000 number coming much quicker than it is right now.

So, let them ignore the effect of Iraq. It will come to bite them.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:49 PM
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24. Good God! THEY OWN THE FUCKING DREs! WTF are they
"scared" of... :puke:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:24 PM
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28. blame the press' concern with civilian casualities for what
they see" as negitive war reporting. Good god!! The Repugs blaming the press!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:33 PM
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30. maybe, just maybe enough people will have awoken from their

deep slumber by 2006??

......President Bush is expected to offer personal thanks and encouragement to worried Republican National Committee members when they open their two-day annual winter meeting this week in Washington.

Tasked with ensuring victory for Mr. Bush last year and for Republican candidates next year, party officials say they are confident looking toward the 2006 midterm elections — provided federal spending is not out of control.

"The sixth year of a two-term presidency is the toughest year for the party in power," said Robert T. Bennett, Ohio Republican Party chairman. If Congress can't get a budget passed "and hold down spending, I think we will be in trouble, but it has more to do with Congress than anything else."

Mr. Bush and his fellow Republicans overcame the odds in 2002: the party that wins the White House usually suffers — two years later — a net loss in Congress and in governorships. But by nationalizing the midterm elections, using homeland security as a theme and sending Mr. Bush out to stump for his party's candidates, Republicans regained control of the Senate and held on to its House majority. ......
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:08 PM
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35. Listen up
The repugnants have figured out how to steal elections without being caught, so don't be surprised if they wind up with even MORE seats after the mid terms.
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