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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:53 AM
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New mad cow case detected in Canada

OTTAWA -- The Canadian Food Inspection Agency says it has detected what may be another case of mad cow disease, a potentially devastating hit to an already struggling Canadian beef industry.

The disclosure of the suspect case early Thursday came just hours after the United States announced sweeping plans for the reopening of its border in March to nearly all Canadian exports of beef and live cattle.


http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=95c675e7-95d6-4d22-a782-085bcdffadeb
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:55 AM
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1. I shore am glad bush*co's at the wheel, ahuh. /sarcasm
What a bunch of fuckups.
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m0nkeyneck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:56 AM
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2. are the mad cows trying to say..
don't eat us anymore?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:18 PM
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5. It was predicted by Nostradamus that the cow Devi would one
day turn against the human in forms of hideous diseases.

Of course I think Nostradamus was an idiot made for dimwits, halfwits and nitwits.

Seriously though, the Mad Cow Disease is an issue that every one is trying to hide because its big bucks. Eating beef is like having unprotected sex.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:58 AM
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3. Right after we stop blocking Canadian beef imports... n/t
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:06 PM
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4. I have only one thing to say:
Eat grass-fed!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:23 PM
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14. I have gone all organic meat and dairy
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 02:23 PM by 48percenter
not only does it taste better, but I have lost about 15 lbs. Now tell me those hormones/antibiotics/etc. the cows/chickens eat aren't making us develop all kinds of diseases??

Ever wonder why your kid has asthma? Ever wonder why you have Type 2 diabetes? Ever wonder why kids are so obese? Look no further than the shit on your table.

Seriously.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:40 PM
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6. Those damn fool Canadians! Won't they ever learn? Just do
what we do down here. DON'T TEST THE COWS. Out of sight, out of mind.
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InvisibleBallots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:41 PM
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7. no more meat for me
It's just not worth the risk. Vegetarianism here I come.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:00 PM
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8. Canada's and the US beef industry
are already so integrated that its a joke to have the border closed at all. We have the same corporations doing the rendering and producing the feed in Canada, our animals are mainly grown and butchered in the same disgusting way; and the animals are bought and sold and shipped back and forth across the border several times during their lives.

They had a clip on the news about the mad cow thing this morning, and they showed a cow happily chowing down on hay. HAY! They probably gave the poor thing a little clump of hay for the benefit of the reporters, the feedlot cattle are forced to eat rendered chicken shit pellets or worse; then we eat the results.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:12 PM
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9. Exactly, these cows are eating beef
Even where cattle parts are outlawed in cattle feed, beef gets mixed in because it's in chicken feed and the cattle ARE allowed to eat chickens and their waste and all the garbage they scrape off the floor of the chicken pen, which includes spilled feed with the beef in it. It's disgusting.

I'm not ready to stop eating beef, though, as long as grass-fed beef is available. Grass-fed cattle have never been fed any feed made with animal products. From what I understand, grass-fed beef is raised humanely and more sustainability. It's expensive, though, so we don't eat it near as much.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:21 PM
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10. The simple solution
Is to ban all animal products from feed for vegetarian animals. It's that simple. But of course, it would make feed more expensive and the renderers would lose business and then the big meat companies might stop giving the Smirking Sociopath and his thugs so much money.

It's all right-wing politics. I have been known to munch cow parts, and I'm not about to stop. But I AM more aware of the risks. If this administration refuses to remove all animal content from feed meant for herbivores (and that includes poultry: they grind up what is euphemistically known as poultry litter and feed it back to cattle, which is moronic), it is doing so at its own risk. There is almost certainly BSE in the country, and it is the result of turning vegetarians into cannibals.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:51 PM
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18. According the National Organic Program's standards...
§ 205.237 Livestock feed.

(a) The producer of an organic livestock operation must provide livestock with a total feed ration composed of agricultural products, including pasture and forage, that are organically produced and, if applicable, organically handled: Except, That, nonsynthetic substances and synthetic substances allowed under § 205.603 may be used as feed additives and supplements.

(b) The producer of an organic operation must not:

(1) Use animal drugs, including hormones, to promote growth;

(2) Provide feed supplements or additives in amounts above those needed for adequate nutrition and health maintenance for the species at its specific stage of life;

(3) Feed plastic pellets for roughage;

(4) Feed formulas containing urea or manure;

(5) Feed mammalian or poultry slaughter by-products to mammals or poultry; or

(6) Use feed, feed additives, and feed supplements in violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NOP/standards/FullRegTextOnly.html
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:54 PM
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11. Allow me a moment's cynicism
I can't believe the timing of these two events, if they are true. I wonder if there wasn't a deal cooked up, to give the Bush administration head's up of another mad cow case, so that just before it breaks they could make noises about re-opening the border.

Result - Bush gets to make motherhood statements about his support for free trade, but American cattlemen continue to keep out competition. I don't know what the quid pro quo to the Canadian government would be - maybe something to do with not pushing too hard on the so-called missile shield.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:59 PM
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12. From what I understand, the opposite is going to happen
The ranchers who want to keep all beef out are in a distinct minority. The pro-Canadian processors and so on just filed a suit demanding that ALL Canadian cattle be allowed in. They outnumber the ranchers in numbers and DOLLARS given to Smirk, so I suspect they will prevail and people like R-CALF, who have been pretty resourceful in keeping the border closed for 19 months, are going to ultimately lose.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:04 PM
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13. I suppose time will tell
I just wish governments on both sides of the border would act more like the public's health overrides the cattle industry's profits.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:53 PM
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15. The Canadians fed Bush beef for dinner.
Heheheheh
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:54 PM
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16. but, he's already insane. n/t
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:56 PM
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17. The US Beef industry must be struggling, chimp trying to make Canada
look bad.
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