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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:58 PM
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Rossi calls for a re-vote (Online poll: should Rossi concede? 57% No!)
BELLEVUE, Wash. - Republican Dino Rossi is calling for a re-vote in the close governor's race.

Rossi said Wednesday night he made the proposal in a letter to Democrat Christine Gregoire, who won the latest recount of ballots, and who is expected to be certified as the winner tomorrow by Secretary of State Sam Reed.
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"The uncertainty surrounding this election process isn't just bad for you and me - it is bad for the entire state. People need to know for sure that the next governor actually won the election," Rossi said, reading from a letter he sent to Gregoire.

"A revote would be the best solution for the people of our state, and would give us a legitimate governorship," the letter went on to say.

A call to the Gregoire campaign was not immediately returned.

Secretary of State Sam Reed is set to certify the election Thursday, making Gregoire the governor-elect.

(more)

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_122904ELBwash_govelectionLJ.589e350b.html

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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:59 PM
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1. A republican Flip Flop...ah-dorable!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:00 PM
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2. I hope she told him to
fold his revote five ways and stick it where the sun don't shine...
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:02 PM
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3. He can have a revote if we get a revote...
on Bush And this time we count the votes.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:53 AM
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19. Totally agree.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:02 PM
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4. Gregoire told him to kiss his own ass
then maybe she'd think about it. Amen.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:02 PM
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5. He should pay for it if he gets it
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:06 PM
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8. His money boys could raise it for him in 15 minutes with a few phone calls
Florida didn't get a "do-over" in 2000-why should Washington get one today. Why shouldn't Gregoire be considered legitimate? Bush apparently is...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:24 AM
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16. I agree with you
But if he does get the statewide revote, then I say he should pay for it since it has to be a huge cost. But of course you're right about all this.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:04 AM
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30. Better big money Republicans should pay than the taxpayers of
Washington state if they do cheat their way to a revote.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:48 PM
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37. Damn right!! Like the Dems did
the WA state Dem party had to cough up a down payment of over $700K just to get the hand recount.

So if Dino wants a revote, then dammit, let the WA state GOP pay for it.

A simple ballot with Gregoire/Rossi on it. No machine counting either. Hand count only.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:03 PM
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6. So, do they even realize......
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 11:05 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
"The uncertainty surrounding this election process isn't just bad for you and me - it is bad for the entire state. People need to know for sure that the next governor actually won the election," Rossi said, reading from a letter he sent to Gregoire.

"A revote would be the best solution for the people of our state, and would give us a legitimate governorship,"

We've been SCREAMING this about Ohio... hey! they make wars, worship a shrub, steal elections.... and steal our lines too!! Ugh!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:13 AM
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15. How about a challenge...
where we tell Rossi to find more video of "disenfranchised" voters waiting in line to vote than existed in Ohio, and then they could be considered to have the election with the most disenfranchised voters and get the do-over. However, if they can't find as much documented evidence of people not being able to vote as there was in Ohio, then we get a do-over on the presidential race in Ohio, claiming that as the worst state to have disenfranchising voters.

It seems like there's far more of a case for a "do-over" in Ohio, where it wasn't only problems with counting votes that were placed, but many folks not even being able to vote to start with with the long waits in lines, etc. that can't be solved through a more thorough recount.

Then we can turn that army of videographers in Ohio funded by Michael Moore to more good use.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:06 PM
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7. Repub Sore Loserman !!!
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 11:06 PM by GetTheRightVote
:kick:

The perfect back sliders.
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:13 PM
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9. Revote THIS you oily bohunk! nt
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:18 PM
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10. is he gonna pay for it?
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 11:18 PM by allalone
it's too funny, back when he thought he won, he was prancing all over the place with that shiteating smile of his. made me sick. feels different now doesn't it rossi?
why would repubs think WA would have voted all dem and then a rep gov. not logical.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:23 PM
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11. Looks like a good opportunity to recycle Jim Baker's standup routine
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:33 PM
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12. An open letter to Dino Lossi
Dear Dino:

I'll write slowly, so you can be sure and sound out the words.

You can cry all you want about a "do over," but frankly, Dino, asking for another vote is a guarantee that you'll get an even bigger ass kicking than you got this time. You have been squealing in the press and to KKKVI like a stuck pig for the past month and a half, while Christine Gregoire has conducted herself in front of Washington state voters and the nation with grace and class.

I will never forget the 45th District representatives' dinner in Olympia a year ago. It was amazing what happened in front of 40 people or so when the doors to the conference room shut and the "moderate" mask came off with a vengeance. Your insistence that you care for the poor and underprivileged? CRAP. Imagine my shock to hear you say that a family of four in Western Washington making $40,000 per year and subscribing to Washington Basic Health was "gaming the system." It's obvious that you don't even have a basic grasp of mathematics. If you did, you might discover that the fictitious family you're talking about wouldn't even have enough money for decent housing, clothing, food and incidentals like heat and lights - let alone health insurance - in Western Washington. I was also amused to learn that you have never supervised anyone during your work career. If you believe yourself to be so eminently qualified, I'm sure that there are many others who are just as qualified for the Governor's job as you are, and have some idea how the "other half" lives as well.

While I'm at it, you might also want to tell your attack dog Chris Vance to stick a sock in it. Then again, please, let him keep making an ass out of himself on the local news channels nightly. You've set the Republicans back in Washington state for quite some time.

Just a final thought, Dino: Have you figured out now why Washington state hasn't had a Republican governor for the past twenty years? I sure as hell know. We're sick of the GOP and its bullshit. We're also sick of the fact that Republicans will do anything to suppress the vote, and Democrats are all about counting the votes. All the votes. Even the Democratic ones.

Thanks for reminding all of us again what true "sore losers" look like.

Fondly,
Julie

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:30 AM
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17. Bravo, Julie!
Poor Dino!
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:42 AM
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28. Please blast this excellent LTTE across the state JulieRB.
I'm sure you've noticed that there is quite a heated battle happening on the editorial pages of the WA state newspapers regarding this issue.

As an aside it cracks me up that Dino was on a Carribean cruise during the first couple of weeks of the recount, busy getting tan & terrific for his imminent governership of they whom have no sun.

Oh, and Chris Vance? Chris Vance wannabe Karl Rove so bad he looks like his twin. Separated at birth perhaps?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:23 AM
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33. "KKKVI" -- love it! n/t
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:52 PM
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44. Minor typo fix for you ... so you can sent it out
As a letter to the editor...:

We're also sick of the fact that Republicans will do anything to suppress the vote, and Democrats are all about counting the votes. All the votes. Even the Democratic ones.

Should "Democratic" be "Republican"? I think that's what you meant.

Great letter, by the way.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:43 PM
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13. How shall we put this...uhhh...oh, yes. "Get over it."
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:58 PM
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14. We would have loved this option in 2000 in Florida. Dump the butterfly
ballot and vote again. It wouldn't have even been close.

Will this option now be available for all close races, Dino?

How much voter suppression needs to be proven in Ohio before we can revote there?

Will the tens of thousands of people that voted for the Libertarian candidate because they were for gay marriage still vote that way in a revote? I doubt it.

This is getting interesting.

I think the Dem's should let the courts kill this idea instead of turning the "sore loserman" mantra against him in the PR campaign.

We need to encourage any and all election reform that we can and if we can get Republicans to support it in the future - Great. But call me skeptical.
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:01 AM
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20. the re-vote issue isn't in the courts
this is about a now public (courtesy of Dino's press conference)letter from Rossi to Gregoire trying to convince her to get behind the idea of a re-vote.

All in the pursuit of giving voters confidence in the electoral system.

uhmm yeah, good try Dino better luck next time.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:25 AM
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24. It would have to go though the courts. Those two couldn't even
agree to do it if they wanted to (which, of course, she doesn't).

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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:01 AM
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29. Yes, it is merely a farce
a pathetic last ditch effort by a bunch of rank amateurs.

It will never go to the courts because the WA repubs don't have a leg to stand on in this case.

Its about time I get my Democratic Governer, it looks like tomorrow is finally the day my vote prevails.

Hooray for small victories and blue states.
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:45 AM
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18. Sore Lossi-man!
How about that for a bumper sticker?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 12:50 PM
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43. Martinis with "Rossi on the rocks"!
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 12:51 PM by calipendence
I'd do a toast to that... :) :party: :toast: :party:

I went to a store last night to get some champagne for another party last night, and the only sparkling wine/champagne bottle that was sold out on the shelves was Martini and Rossi Asti Spumante. Hmmm!!! I wonder if other folks had the same idea! :)
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:01 AM
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21. There are just two problems with this . . .
First, as far as I can tell, holding a "do over" would, at the very least, require that a court declare the previous election invalid. That's not going to happen. I seriously doubt that the legislature would have the authority to overturn the election results, and since the Democrats control the legislature, that's not going to happen either.

Second, why should anyone expect the results of a new election to be any less murky that the results of the last election?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:13 AM
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22. I hope her first order of business as Gov. is to fix the election process
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:34 AM
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27. The election process isn't broken. It worked perfectly!
All in all, there were very few irregularities in WA. The only irregularities were found to be caused by accident on the fault of election workers, and that was fixed by the WA Supreme Court.

There was no fraud that took place in this election... at least none that either side can prove at all, and the recount process worked 100% as expected.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:16 AM
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23. a mulligan??
isn't that the golf term for a do-over? Wa law doesn't allow do-overs.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:27 AM
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25. Don't forget to vote in the online survey
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:42 PM
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40. I voted
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 07:47 PM by ribrepin
Come on DU, especially Washington stater's.

"Should Dino Rossi concede the race for Washington's governor?"

Yes 1,814 41.01%
No 2,562 57.92%
Undecided 47 1.06%

Unfortunately you have to register.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:33 AM
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26. Well, I want a re-vote too.
And I live in OH.
I wonder what Mr. Rossi would say about that?
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:04 AM
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31. Uh... the answer to that would be... NO? Soreloserman? Quit Whining?
Somehow, I just don't recall Rossi saying things like this when he was in the lead. Could I have missed it? Was his clarion call for vote protection not covered by the Liberal Media?

Not that I don't think a re-vote would be peachy. Let's re-vote the 2000 Florida presidential election while we're at it. IIRC, there were quite a few flaws on that one, which could easily have been cleared up by a run-off election.

Or maybe Rossi can resign himself to going through the standard process for an election contest like anyone else. Ya think?

What a douchebag. Still, maybe this is just what it takes to get republicans concerned for the accuracy of the vote counting systems.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:06 AM
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32. Hey Rossi!
Why don't you wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first?

Ha-ha....get over it, loser!

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:26 AM
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34. 100% of all DS1s voted for Dino to take a flying leap
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:36 AM
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35. For the good of the State, rossy should quit being a winer and get over it
sounding much like the sore loser he is....he is disrupting the system that cleared up the muddy waters of soiled elections.

Those heathens were caught trying stealing yet another election. Posing as Christians, the heathens\/pagans did all they could to get rossy into office..... only to be exposed by a recount paid for by the Dem Contender. All the rules of the State were played out. As stipulated, there will be no more recounts.

Get over it.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:22 PM
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36. suck it chris vance
so the threat is "agree to a revote or we bring in james baker III & take it to Scalia & Uncle Thomas"?

do it, dino. sue. bog it down in the courts. try to turn it into the Ukraine. only "outraged" KKKVI listeners will turn out in the streets, and if you're lucky, you'll get all 100 of them.

everywhere but on hate radio you look like a whiny bitch while "chris" stays gracefully above the fray, speaking only through representatives. you look sad & desparate trotting out the wife & kids to pad your veiled threats.

the democrats worked the system within the rules & you all dropped the ball by allowing the hayseed counties to ceritfy before king co. did. don't like that you lost? tough shit, this isn't golf.

Berendt, Seattle, Truth, Justice: 1
Vance, Bellevue, Greed, Money: 0
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:49 PM
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38. Wants everyone to use the new Diebold "voting machines" this time.n/t
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:12 PM
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39. voted in poll
Yes is at 40.96%
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:53 PM
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41. he has a kind of sick look on his face
maybe he's afraid his masters aren't going to be happy about his failure to steal the election per their orders.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 09:48 AM
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42. Did It (eom)
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