CIA Got Uranium Mention Cut in Oct.

[riskpeace]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48847-2003Jul12.html?nav=hptop_tb

CIA Got Uranium Mention Cut in Oct.
Why Bush Used It In Jan. Is Unclear

By Walter Pincus and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, July 13, 2003; Page A01

CIA Director George J. Tenet successfully intervened with White House officials to have a reference to Iraq seeking nuclear materials from Niger removed from a presidential speech last October, three months before a less specific reference to the same intelligence appeared in the State of the Union address, according to senior administration officials.

snip

The new disclosure suggests how eager the White House was to make Iraq's nuclear capabilities a part of its case against Saddam Hussein even in the face of earlier objections by its own CIA director. It also appears to undermine President Bush's forceful effort on Friday to blame the CIA for inclusion of the faulty allegations because the agency ultimately signed off on the State of the Union speech.

[zekeson]

1. Bang

the sound you just heard was the smoking gun that will bring little bunnypants to his unsteady knees. Well, maybe this one won't be the story that is my mixed metaphor dream, but * is going down, the heat is on, they are in chaos and all that stuff that hasn't stuck to teflon boy is swinging back around to bury him.
:)

[w13rd0]

2. Wait...

...wait...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"The President considers the matter closed. Tenet has taken full responsibility for not working hard enough to get Bush not to lie."

Yes, by golly, Bush & Cheney have proven time and again over the past two years that they are more than willing to listen to viewpoints that might not advance their agenda, or even run counter to it. Does anyone recall all those meetings Cheney had with Sierra Club and National Council on Renewable Clean Energy when formulating the energy plan? Obviously, Tenet was derelict in his duties. Stopping the President from lying once wasn't enough. Bush is such a persistent hard-headed uncurious thug that like Rush, he needs to be reminded that what he wants to say is a lie, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Otherwise, he's liable to pop up and repeat it at a later date, forgetting completely that he's already been told it's a fraud again and again...like him thinking god speaks to him, or thinking he won the election, or him thinking anyone outside our borders likes him, or thinking he's well respected...

ON EDIT: 2 appearances for Condi, and 2 for Rummy scheduled on the morning puke fest tomorrow. Will this come up? Will they show up? Could be interesting...

[indictrichardperle]

3. Its the Lying that always brings them down

Dont they think there is enough already out there to expose every single lie within 24 hours ?

CIA leaks are going to continue. Dems should be screaming about this tomorrow morning. The media has enough with this story right here to cause a major problem. The WH is going to have to come out and apologize.........

If they keep lying its going to go the same way it did for Nixon.

[Merlin]

13. Instead of any WaPo digging, it probably means the CIA is leaking.

Tenet's hari-kari act has not gone down well in Langley. There are some professionals in the CIA who still care about the integrity and political independence they are charged with observing. They don't look kindly at their agency being treated like a political doormat. So the ass the boss kisses on one level, is rammed with a hot poker on another. God, do these Bush bastards deserve this!

[Deb]

4. Now we know why Condi called her President "determined"

He was determined to lie.

I'm glad to see this in the WP.

[Octafish]

5. This is some heavy doo-doo, DU.

It seems the Post didn't stop at Rove's explanation and have published the results of an actual INVESTIGATION. Whether that means they investigated the paper's morgue for whenever the last time Bushler mentioned U-238 from Africa, or someone INVESTIGATED some notes from what an unnamed source was saying drunk, it's good for America. About time.

And, they are going after Sneering Dick Cheney, too. Yess!

What's next? Will the WP breathe some life into the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Nah. After all, political decisions like who will lead the country should NOT be left up to "We the People." That's what folks like Pincus, and people at the CIA or the Secret Government, or whatever they are called, are for.

Still, it's better than no article at all. And it is a great article. Here's another

EXCERPT...

Details about the alleged attempt by Iraq to buy up to 500 tons of uranium oxide were contained in a national intelligence estimate (NIE) that was concluded in late September 2002. It was that same reference that the White House wanted to use in Bush's Oct. 7 speech that Tenet blocked, the sources said. That same intelligence report was the basis for a 16-word sentence in the January State of the Union address that has drawn recent attention.

Administration sources said White House officials, particularly the office of Vice President Cheney, insisted on including Hussein's quest for a nuclear weapon as a prominent part of their public case for war in Iraq. Cheney had made the potential threat of Hussein having a nuclear weapon a central theme of his August 2002 speeches that began the public buildup toward war with Baghdad.

In the Oct. 7 Cincinnati speech, the president for the first time outlined in detail the threat Hussein posed to the United States on the eve of a congressional vote authorizing war. Bush talked in part about "evidence" indicating that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. The president listed Hussein's "numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists," satellite photographs showing former nuclear facilities were being rebuilt, and Iraq's attempts to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes for use in enriching uranium for nuclear weapons.

There was, however, no mention of Niger or even attempts to purchase uranium from other African countries, which was contained in the NIE and a British intelligence dossier that had been published a month earlier.

CONTINUED...

WOW!

[ewagner]

7. WoW is right!

Is it time ot get my hope up yet?

:bounce:

[Merlin]

9. More than the Post digging, it probably means CIA is leaking.

Tenet's hari-kari act has not gone down well in Langley. There are some professionals in the CIA who still care about the integrity and political independence they are charged with observing. They don't look kindly at their agency being treated like a political doormat. So the ass the boss kisses on one level, is rammed with a hot poker on another. God, do these Bush bastards deserve this!

[Merlin]

11. More than the WaPo digging, it probably means the CIA is leaking.

Tenet's hari-kari act has not gone down well in Langley. There are some professionals in the CIA who still care about the integrity and political independence they are charged with observing. They don't look kindly at their agency being treated like a political doormat. So the ass the boss kisses on one level, is rammed with a hot poker on another. God, do these Bush bastards deserve this!

[classics]

6. Hello.... did he just get caught lying about his lie?

oooohhhhhh..... wahahahahahaha.

Impeach this loser, game over.

[RedSock]

8. oh boy

It was that same reference that the White House wanted to use in Bush's Oct. 7 speech that Tenet blocked ... Administration sources said White House officials, particularly the office of Vice President Cheney, insisted on including Hussein's quest for a nuclear weapon as a prominent part of their public case for war ...

Yo dick, good thing you just got your heart checked, you got time for a few questions?

[janx]

10. We're not there yet, but we're getting there.

Cheney's name keeps cropping up, over and over again.

[Beetwasher]

12. Yup, that's the beauty!

We all know how that cockroach hates the light! He'll be sneering all over the news programs tomorrow with this little bombshell hanging over his head!

[indictrichardperle]

14. If Scooter Libby

gets all "lawyered up", you know the shit has hit the fan.

What would be hilarious, if Halliburton's greedy paw gets forcibly removed from the Iraqi cookie jar. :D Bunker Dick might lose his pension :D

[classics]

15. Bush should just resign.

This will be a major embarrasment even for this crew of mental thugs.

[MoonAndSun]

16. The aluminum tubes will be the next controversy,

another snip from article


"Officials involved in preparing the speech said there was much more internal debate over the next line of the speech, when Bush said in reference to Hussein, "Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, in his Feb. 5 presentation to the United Nations, noted a disagreement about Iraq's intentions for the tubes, which can be used in centrifuges to enrich uranium. The U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency had raised those questions two weeks before the State of the Union address, saying Hussein claimed non-nuclear intentions for the tubes. In March, the IAEA said it found Hussein's claim credible, and could all but rule out the use of the tubes in a nuclear program."


:evilgrin:

[kskiska]

18. Oh, boy. They should've just gone with the mass graves

an applause-getter if there ever was one.

[FubarFly]

17. This is just the beginning...

The CIA ain't done with these asscraters yet.

Intimidation is no longer a factor.

By the time they're finished, they're going to make Watergate look like a bed-wetting contest.

:bounce: :toast: :bounce:

[classics]

19. You think this is going down because Bush fingered the CIA?

I recall thinking a few months ago when there was some story about Bush laying something off on bad CIA work that he should be real careful about doing that sort of thing.

In not saying the CIA have a history of eating thier own, but they do hold all the cards. Someone should have told Jr not to shit where he eats, so to speak.

[tedzbear]

20. His daddy ran the CIA so he should know better!

Didn't daddy Bush run the CIA before he was vice president under Reagan????

[lanlady]

27. Yes, for a year

and during that time he was "credited" with taking steps to institutionalize the politicization of intelligence. Yet another chapter in the Bush family's history of treachery!

[indictrichardperle]

21. Neo-cons and CIA were in a nasty feud

Thats what got this shit rolling. Remember when Wolfowitz and Rummy talked about eliminating the CIA and creating their own intelligence agency ?

The neo-cons are bringing about all the problems, a real gang of crooks.

[Catherine Vincent]

22. Get a load of this.....!!

"A senior administration official said Bush's chief speechwriter, Michael J. Gerson, does not remember who wrote the line that has wound up causing the White House so much grief."

If this isn't bullshit, I don't know what is!

[IndianaGreen]

23. This article by Walter Pincus and Mike Allen is explosive!

At a minimum, it implicates the office of the Vice President in a scheme to use questionable intelligence information in order to bolster the Bush Administration case for war against Iraq. At worst, it shows that key officials in the Administration, from the Oval Office to the State and Defense Departments, engaged in a concerted campaign of deception to get Congress to vote for war, and to rally the American people behind them under false pretenses.

Either way, we need a serious impartial investigation into this matter, and we must consider the possibility that Bush, Cheney, or both of them, must be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors.

[lanlady]

28. paging Rosemary Woods! paging Rosemary Woods

Just had an image of her pop into my head.

[Flubadubya]

24. How much influence does Poppy still have in the CIA?

and a good morning :kick:

Tenet didn't just "fall on his sword" out of the goodness of his heart and the CIA would not normally stand still for this kind of bruising. Makes me wonder what B* 41's role is in all this. :eyes: :scared:

[0007]

25. This is more than a kick in the balls

The Energy Papers are about to surface and the 911 Investigation is coming into view.

Not to mention their are no jobs for the young Americans.

[arcos]

26. kick!

n/t

[F.Gordon]

29. The Speech in question...........

IRAQ: Denial and Deception (what an appropriate title!!!)

President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat
Remarks by the President on Iraq
Cincinnati Museum Center - Cincinnati Union Terminal
Cincinnati, Ohio

....selected snips.....

It possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. It has given shelter and support to terrorism,

Many people have asked how close Saddam Hussein is to developing a nuclear weapon. Well, we don't know exactly, and that's the problem. Before the Gulf War, the best intelligence indicated that Iraq was eight to ten years away from developing a nuclear weapon. After the war, international inspectors learned that the regime has been much closer -- the regime in Iraq would likely have possessed a nuclear weapon no later than 1993. The inspectors discovered that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a workable nuclear weapon, and was pursuing several different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb.

Before being barred from Iraq in 1998, the International Atomic Energy Agency dismantled extensive nuclear weapons-related facilities, including three uranium enrichment sites. That same year, information from a high-ranking Iraqi nuclear engineer who had defected revealed that despite his public promises, Saddam Hussein had ordered his nuclear program to continue.

The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.

If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists.

This speech was a clear setup and lead in for the SOTU. The "threat" of nuclear weapons was introduced in this October speech and the "lie" was introduced in the SOTU. Gee, why is there no mention of the Nigeria LIE last October? Because it was a careful buildup of Lie after Lie, all leading up to justification for our involvement in Vietn...err....Iraq.

oops..forgot to add link;
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html
Edit: not enough coffee (or too much?)