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smiths_fan_21384 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:22 PM
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BBCNews - Muslim call to thwart capitalism
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3061833.stm

Muslim call to thwart capitalism

By Mark McCallum
In Granada, Spain

An Islamic conference in the Spanish city of Granada has called on Muslims around the world to help bring about the end of the capitalist system.

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Mr Vadillo said America's economic interests had become the religion of the world and that people slavishly adjusted their lifestyles to suit the capitalist model.

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Mr Vadillo, a Spanish Muslim, called on all followers of Islam to stop using western currencies such as the dollar, the pound and the euro and instead to return to the use of the gold dinar.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:34 PM
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1. this is encouraging
i wish them success
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:41 PM
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2. no, they are cutting their own throat...
going onto the gold standard will actually harm their own currency.

The Muslim world is in a weak position economically. Aside from oil, they don't produce very much. They are the big losers in globalization. Whatever little manufacturaing they had is being replaced by cheap imports from China.
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Frontier Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:57 PM
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3. !! go for it !!
:thumbsup:

There has to be a better vehicle for the Muslim people than capitalism. It's proven nothing but disasterous for them in that they are the victims of American appetites. And that's disgusting.

Maybe they can start a new revolution.
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R_Ram_U Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:48 PM
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4. What has proven disastrous for the Middle East

...has been a dependence on petroleum combined with a lack of true
democracy. When you have governments that are doubly unaccountable,
first because they're not elected, and second because no one pays taxes,
then you have a system that is thoroughly corrupted and has to make
deals with extremists in order to legitimize their governance. In fact a
lack of capitalism has made the Middle East worse off for its people,
and less capitalism isn't the answer. Oil dependency is an evil and
insidious business for both parties. We are the world's largest consumer
of petroleum, we're in fact petroleum junkies, and because we're junkies
we've had to make deals with some pretty nasty people in order to get
our fix. That's one of the reasons for 9/11. It's also evil because the
region of the world selling us the most petroleum has been left behind
the rest of the world. They are some of the most backward parts of the
world, especially when it comes to education--their bodies might not be
starving, but their minds are. Africa is the poorest continent in the
world, yet I've never heard of an African suicide bomber. Obviously
there's a lot of killing going on in Africa, but none of it is directed
at Westerners.

The Middle East has made a deal with the Devil because of petroleum.
They're dependent on it for their economy. This has led to
underinvestment in another parts of their economy, such as technology,
manufacturing, etc. The Middle East has never gone through an industrial
revolution, and yet they are worse of for it. Saudi Arabian sheiks can
by the most expensive cars, yet they can't manufacture them in their
home countries. This is why you have an entire generation of Middle
Easterners who are dissatisfied with their own countries and blame it on
us. Their governments relied on petroleum as a panacea and it's made
them fall behind the rest of the world instead. On top of this Middle
Eastern governments have had to make deals with the most extremist parts
of their religion. In order to legitimize their rule, they've had to,
instead of contributing to modernize their education systems, they've
had to contribute to the most backwards and ignorant parts of their
religion. In order for Imams to bless their rule, theses sheiks have had
to spread their intolerance and ignorance around the world, with all
that dirty oil-money that we've provided them. The whole damn system is
corrupt and less capitalism will make it even more corrupt, and
eventually more dangerous for the rest of the world.
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