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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:25 PM
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USA Today: Poll: Bush Approval Rating Takes Fall (52%)
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 04:26 PM by Beetwasher
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-11-poll-results_x.htm

WASHINGTON — President Bush's public standing, on a downward trend all summer, has slid to its lowest point since the September 11 attacks two years ago, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll shows. (Related story:Poll results)

Due in large part to an economy that continues to lose jobs, despite positive indicators, and a situation in Iraq that is messier and more costly than Bush predicted, he is taking a big share of the blame.

A thin majority, 52%, approve of the overall job he is doing, down from this year's high of 71% in mid-April, when the war in Iraq still had a glow of victory.

--snip--

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall...yadda yadda yadda...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:27 PM
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1. Mind if I do a little happy-happy joy-joy dance?
He's toast. :)
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:32 PM
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2. Look at this particular snip:
Democratic pollster Mark Mellman says, "Bush ... has benefited from circumstances beyond his control. Now reality is setting in."

Bush's slippage suggests that if the election were held today, he would have a tough fight. Among registered voters, he holds a slim 47%-43% lead over an unnamed Democrat. That's down from a more comfortable 51%-39% lead he held two weeks ago




UN-NAMED DEMOCRAT 47-43%!!!!!!!

That is great!!!
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:44 PM
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6. LMAO...

So we could field a Ghost and compete with the Chimp off the ole' block.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:49 PM
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9. Not to be a downer, however...
We need to also realize that Bush does worse against a "generic Democrat" than he does against a named opponent. We need to work very hard if we are to maintain the strength of "opponent x" against the right-wing propaganda machine. Bush still has quite a ways to fall. We will surely help him in this regard...
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:28 PM
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23. That's very true
It's very possible he does worse among likely voters than registered voters (see Zogby) but he does need to fall some more. However, 52 percent in a CNN/Gallup poll is huge because these polls run high. Next week, we'll probably start seeing other polls below 50 percent, joining Zogby.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:35 PM
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3. Results from approval polls by Gallup are usually higher
than those from other groups. So 52% from Gallup is very bad, indeed. This is actually consistent with the 45% approval result obtained by Zogby last week.

Be afraid... Be very afraid...
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:38 PM
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4. And a majority says no to $87 billion
"Americans are nearly split on whether Congress should authorize the additional $87 billion Bush is requesting for Iraq and Afghanistan: 51% say no and 46% say yes."

Even USA Today can't spin this away.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:45 PM
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7. NEARLY SPLIT?
Why can't they say "A clear majority of Americans is opposed?"

Fucking propagandists.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:23 PM
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19. The right wing media always spins when numbers go against Bush
A majority are against it, but they say "nearly split".
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:42 PM
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5. Drip, drip, drip
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:52 PM
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11. as I reported...
...on the thread in GD, CNN's political analyst said NO BOUNCE from the speech and that Americans support soldiers but don't support Bush game-playing the war.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:45 PM
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17. That was my suspicion
I didn't see your thread in GD but I felt absolutely sinking feeling sick when I listened to that speech and I KNEW it would do nothing more for him than slow down the downward dive in his support.

87 BILLION. That's a staggering number from a secretive administration that assured the sheeple "there's nothing to see here - just move along". Even the freepers know they've been screwed now.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:48 PM
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8. Bad News From The Bush Whores
USA Today has been among the leaders of the Regime's apologists since well before the Alleged Election. They have spun every story and every friggin' piece of poll data (if the numbers indeed ain't been cooked outright) to prop up bu$h.

If USA TODAY shows him at (a probably-inflated) 52 per cent, the boy is in (as his Evil Daddy so eloquently put it) deep doo-doo.

EXCELLENT!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:28 PM
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27. This is an excellent observation.
I thought I was just imagining it since USA Today (as I remember it)used be the closest thing to that damned ubiquitous "Liberal Media". Now it is a straight up rag.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:51 PM
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10. Except for Zogby, they'll struggle: 51%...50.5%...50.25%...50.1%
The magic number will somehow magically keep Junior a "popular" wartime President for as long as conceivably deceivable.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:19 PM
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15. 50.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%...
will be his approval rating in USA Today when he is escorted back to the Crawford pig farm.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:54 PM
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12. It Can't Go Low Enough For Me!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:56 PM
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13. i think i'm going to swoon!
is this awesome news or what! woohoo!
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XEON Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:09 PM
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14. No Again!
Bush falls quick. Some politician. He is just no good.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:20 PM
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16. Looks like it's time for that September Product Rollout
People in California...heads up...I think you are next.
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:00 PM
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22. Not California - they figure it's wrapped w/ Arnold
Seattle, Boston, Chicago or NY II - take your pick.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:57 PM
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18. Frankly, I'm impressed
Honestly, would any Democratic president who lost 3 million jobs, wiped out a projected $5 trillion surplus and replaced it with record deficits, presided over the biggest security breach since Pearl Harbor, and badly mishandled an overseas war be this popular? I seriously doubt it.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:30 PM
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20. Nothing "Impressive" about it
Why would you be impressed? Do you mean you're impressed w/ Bush? His remaining "popularity" has nothing to do with any ability or quality he possesses, it's purely the product of other people's and institutions work, not his. It's the product of shameless and despicable propoganda and obsequiousness. Quite frankly, it's not impressive, it's revolting and disturbing...
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:38 PM
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24. I think dolstein was being facetious when he said "impressed"
He's surprised Bush isn't a helluva lot lower, which is where he should be based on his record. A Dem president who did all this would be scraping the bottom of the barrel on approval. But Bush has been propped up by the media who've treated his admin. with kid gloves. Even with that, people are finally waking up.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:31 PM
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28. I believe that was the poster's point! n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 08:32 PM by are_we_united_yet
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jos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:54 PM
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21. Clark's numbers
Interesting that he takes equally from Gephardt, Dean and Kerry.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:53 PM
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25. Is USA Today a magazine or a newspaper? check out headlines
Every day I walk by a several newspaper boxes one containing USA Today the others: NY Times, Washington Post, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. The city papers usually have a similiar headlines pertaining to the big NEWS event of the previous day. But USA Today consistently has some feature headline like: "Airline Passengers Having Fewer Delays" or some such nonsense that isn't really news but something that belongs in a magazine. USA Today is to the Washington Post like Entertainment Tonight is to the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:13 PM
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26. What's shocking is that he's dropped 7 points in 2 weeks
That's a major slippage in such a short time.
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